ewwwww.... it's like a rotten Apple.
I may have some sort of use for it..... no. wait. I don't.
I may have some sort of use for it..... no. wait. I don't.
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I was perusing the instructions, and in the bless command it has:
sudo bless --folder . --file xom.efi --setBoot
I haven't found a man page yet that documents the --file option. (on 10.4.5 anyhow) Anyone know what thats about?
Edit: Maybe an intel only option? I only have a PPC...
sudo bless --folder . --file xom.efi --setBoot
I haven't found a man page yet that documents the --file option. (on 10.4.5 anyhow) Anyone know what thats about?
Edit: Maybe an intel only option? I only have a PPC...
This can affect development for OSX
I don't think many of you understand. This doesn't hurt development for the Mac overnight, it is a slow erosion that takes time. For example, read all the posts saying "I would only use it to run the occasional piece of software that is Windows only". Yes... and once you can do that easily and with native performance, there is *ZERO* pressure on the developer of that software to create an OSX version... he gets your money either way.
Case in point, Garmin announced at MWSF that they will make Mac-native versions of their GPS software... something that many people have been requesting for quite some time. If their software worked great under OSX through VPC or some fast switching solution, how motivated would they be to do that? Google Earth? Games? I doubt we'll ever see Autocad for the Mac again now. Then look at companies that may be on the edge of dropping Mac development for one reason or another. No MS Office for the Mac, anyone? Again, that won't happen overnight, but it could happen.
It takes time, but if Wintel software works as well and transparently on a Mac as it does on a PC, then you will see cases of this, guaranteed. It took years, but this was a huge factor in the slow and painful death of OS/2.
I don't think many of you understand. This doesn't hurt development for the Mac overnight, it is a slow erosion that takes time. For example, read all the posts saying "I would only use it to run the occasional piece of software that is Windows only". Yes... and once you can do that easily and with native performance, there is *ZERO* pressure on the developer of that software to create an OSX version... he gets your money either way.
Case in point, Garmin announced at MWSF that they will make Mac-native versions of their GPS software... something that many people have been requesting for quite some time. If their software worked great under OSX through VPC or some fast switching solution, how motivated would they be to do that? Google Earth? Games? I doubt we'll ever see Autocad for the Mac again now. Then look at companies that may be on the edge of dropping Mac development for one reason or another. No MS Office for the Mac, anyone? Again, that won't happen overnight, but it could happen.
It takes time, but if Wintel software works as well and transparently on a Mac as it does on a PC, then you will see cases of this, guaranteed. It took years, but this was a huge factor in the slow and painful death of OS/2.
Just Buy A Windows Unit
For goodness sakes !! Why all the bother ? The windows boxes are cheap enough to buy one.....don't mess up a great product ( Mac ) with the crap from microsoft....
For goodness sakes !! Why all the bother ? The windows boxes are cheap enough to buy one.....don't mess up a great product ( Mac ) with the crap from microsoft....
A priori yokels!
Hah! There you go! All those people that doubed that narf got it, well, he got it.
It just goes to show that opinions of people online are almost as useless as the people in real life. What matters is what people do, not what people say. And the people that say are almost always wrong.
Hah! There you go! All those people that doubed that narf got it, well, he got it.
It just goes to show that opinions of people online are almost as useless as the people in real life. What matters is what people do, not what people say. And the people that say are almost always wrong.
tknelson said:
Have you read all the answers to this in this post? Anyone who thinks like you will be proven very very wrong IMO.
I'm not holding my breath for the first software company to say "we can't be arsed making a mac version anymore, just run it with your hacked copy of windows instead".....seriously, this ain't gonna happen.
It's like saying Windows and OS X are equals and that people are equally happy whichever OS they use to run their apps. This is simply not true. I believe people who buys macs will always want MOST, if not ALL of their software for OS X. Not Windows. Booting up Windows is something to be done only when there's no other option.
YoNeX said:I know NO one will do this, but I remember somewhere in the XP manuals it says you MUST put the XP sticker (the one with all the license information) somewhere on the computer that you are installing XP to. Now seriously, who would do this?
Here is my opinion (whether legit or not) on the images of XP (.iso). Microsoft could care less if you make copies of the XP. But, as long as you buy a license for it, it should be perfectly acceptable. That is why the XP cd says "Do not make illegal duplicates." So its ok to make copies, as long as you do it legally.
Also, for those students out there, http://www.msdnaa.net/search/SchoolSearch.aspx?/ Search for your schools, and email the admin to get your login. This should give you EXCELLENT discount off of XP. If you are lucky, even free XP license!
That is freaking SWEET!!! According to what i have found my school (OSU) and my major (computer science and engineering) is eligable for FREE XP SP2 discs. Hell i dont even have a Windows machine but if they arfe going to give me free software then i might just have to build one (have been wanting to anyway)
Thats really cool, thanks for pointing that out!!
tknelson said:
Dual boot doesn't run windows apps "easily". It runs them, but it's a pain since you have to reboot the machine. And the motivation for writing OSX versions is that they will sell. They'll be bought by the 90% of mac users who won't do this AND the 10% who do.
No MS office? Doubtful since for every 1 mac user who switched to the XP version you'd have 10 who would stick with the last released version or find other office apps.
Mac market share is on the rise, and this may boost it even more. Go look at the news reports of this on PC sites and read all the comments from PC users saying that now they're finally willing to buy a mac. If you make a mac version, mac users will buy it. Period. And if you don't make a mac version, customers will be more likely to buy a competing product that does have a mac version than a PC version that requires a reboot.
OS2 isn't much of a comparison since it never had much of a user base to start with.
robertmorris2 said:
So Rob, does that mean you're willing to spring for one? Sounds like you can afford to if you think a few hundred bucks can be tossed away that easily.
Windows on a Mac...
I think this is a great developement for Apple as a hardware producer. As was said before Apple now has a product that can run three OS's. Does that mean the downfall of OS X? I don't think so, infact I hope more people will buy macs now and take advantage of OS X. My father has had to own Windows boxes for years becuase the software he needed for work was only written for the PC, He can now run the software on the mac and at the end of the day switch to using OS X for the ease of use and fun it provides.
I also remember a pole somewhere (on this site?) that showed that many colledge students would consider switching to macs if they also ran windows for use with games. What better way to reach a larger market than to bring the iPod generations up on Macs!
Of course this is looking on he bright side of things, and things may go the opposite way with the eventual erosion of OS X, but it is a risk that I believe stands to help Apple, at least in the short term.
I think this is a great developement for Apple as a hardware producer. As was said before Apple now has a product that can run three OS's. Does that mean the downfall of OS X? I don't think so, infact I hope more people will buy macs now and take advantage of OS X. My father has had to own Windows boxes for years becuase the software he needed for work was only written for the PC, He can now run the software on the mac and at the end of the day switch to using OS X for the ease of use and fun it provides.
I also remember a pole somewhere (on this site?) that showed that many colledge students would consider switching to macs if they also ran windows for use with games. What better way to reach a larger market than to bring the iPod generations up on Macs!
Of course this is looking on he bright side of things, and things may go the opposite way with the eventual erosion of OS X, but it is a risk that I believe stands to help Apple, at least in the short term.
so before repartitioning my hard drive i went ahead and made the disk and applied the EFI file etc and tested it- and of course it booted XP install and began, but sicne i didnt have anywhere ready to install yet I canceled... now I've gone ahead and booted from the OSX cd and created my partitions....... and now it wont let me install OSX, ive tried going back to one partition full size et.c.. wont let me select it.. no matter hwhat im getting a red exclamation point over my hard drive!!!! anyone know naything about this? I remember reading workarounds to problems like this inorder to install OSX on an external drive...
please oh please someone =\ this is extrememly lame... and possibly a coincidence..
please oh please someone =\ this is extrememly lame... and possibly a coincidence..
milo said:
Just on this point, this isn't always an inconvenience. For someone like myself, who might need a PC at work and a Mac at home (and shuts the MacBook down for the trip), it's no problem.
