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iMeowbot

macrumors G3
Aug 30, 2003
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sishaw said:
Also, while we're de-bunking myths---the Windows BSOD was a Win98 thing. Under XP, it's more like OSX--individual program crashes/freezes are isolated to the program, which can be stopped separately using the task manager. I don't recall ever seeing a BSOD in the several years I had an XP computer.
The BSOD under XP is about as common as a Mac kernel panic. Some people never run into them or see them only rarely, others see them daily. It often comes down to misbehaving hardware, sometimes a corrupt file or setting is at fault.
Steve1496 said:
The install requires a Windows XP PC, with which Windows is already installed. From here you use Nero Burning ROM to mix files from your XP SP2 CD, copy them to a new project, and add in some $OEM$ files and folders, and fix some of the files in i386.
Since software already exists to work with the compressed Windows files and .cabs on the Mac, it may then not be out of the question to build a patched CD under OS X and do away with the iffy legalities. That would be nice if it can happen.
 

mrplow

macrumors member
Sep 18, 2004
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iMeowbot said:
The BSOD under XP is about as common as a Mac kernel panic. Some people never run into them or see them only rarely, others see them daily. It often comes down to misbehaving hardware, sometimes a corrupt file or setting is at fault.

Since software already exists to work with the compressed Windows files and .cabs on the Mac, it may then not be out of the question to build a patched CD under OS X and do away with the iffy legalities. That would be nice if it can happen.


It requires Nero-- nero has a 'bootable cd' option and it is imperative to making these instructions work. (if someone put it all together and made an image, im sure that could be distributed and burned on a mac)
 

081440

macrumors regular
Mar 14, 2006
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New Jersey
How hard is it to get on the site to dowload this? Been trying for quite some time, but Safari says the server is no longer responding.:(

I there any chance this would be taken down soon?:eek:

Just want to get a copy before Uncle Sam, Microsoft, or Apple get involved. (Hope they don't, but you never know!)
 

SiliconAddict

macrumors 603
Jun 19, 2003
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MacsRgr8 said:
Knowing the way the Maxxuss-patched 10.4.x for Generic Intel DVD's were shared, I'm pretty sure the pre-patched XP SP2 for Mac Intel CD will be available very, very shortly online somewhere.....

This IS ofcourse illegal.

Gah. I promised myself I wouldn't be back here for a while and here I am. Site is like crack hopped up on caffeine, with a hit of sugar.


Anyways the reason I need to post was simple. Windows XP the CD itself isn't illegal to download off the net. Microsoft's licensing is pretty straight forward. Take a look at the back of any Windows laptop and you will see a sticker that has your activation code and the pretty hologram that use to be on sheets of paper. At this point in time THAT sticker is your license. AS long as you have A license you can download the media til your heart’s content. The issue though is two fold. First most Mac users aren’t going to buy a license. (A Mac user purchasing Windows? NEVER!)
Secondly that license entitles you to a SINGLE install. Microsoft has played fast and loose with this for some time but they are starting to enforce it. If you take XP off your beige box and drop it onto a Mac via a hacked CD you downloaded Microsoft doesn’t care as long as there is ONE and only one install of Windows. The thing is you need to keep that license sticker or you loose your license for Windows. (Unless you purchased a retail copy.)

I personally plan on running Windows on my MacBook Pro. The only problem is that it won’t happen until I upgrade my hard drive. I’m down to 8GB of free space and any install of Windows I’m going to want about 10-15GB. Seagate can’t come out with their 2.5” SATA 260GB hard drive soon enough.

OK I’m gone again. I think. Stupid moderator.
 

harveypooka

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Feb 24, 2004
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jrk07 said:
I can't wait for this to be through a few versions and the new PowerMacs (MacPros or whatever) come out and have some sweet gaming. I have my doubts of gaming on a iMac with its X1600 graphics or especially the mac mini with integrated, but a nice powermac with a sweet graphics card, I can't wait!
Why do you doubt gaming on the X1600? It's a decent card. Have you seen the crap Half Life 2 will run on! It's a wonderful bit of software...
Oh..check this out...hehe...

http://www.junktown.co.uk/macs.JPG

The one on the left is the Intel Mac...one on the right...the PPC.
 

Tupring

macrumors regular
Jun 15, 2005
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suntzu said:
Besides, didn't Apple say they weren't going to actively stop people from doing it? And didn't they say how some people are forced to use Windows?
Yeah, Apple has never said one thing, and done another :D And no one, and I mean NO ONE is FORCED to use Windows. "Just say no!"
 

mrplow

macrumors member
Sep 18, 2004
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I'd be willing to distribute the patch XP cd... but I won't provide a CDKEY for it.
Note to college students- ALOT of schools give XP for free (you pay a fee in tuition for software licenses).. so, you might want to check into that.
 

Maaij

macrumors newbie
Sep 16, 2004
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mrplow said:
I'd be willing to distribute the patch XP cd... but I won't provide a CDKEY for it.
Note to college students- ALOT of schools give XP for free (you pay a fee in tuition for software licenses).. so, you might want to check into that.

Distribute on the net? Would be cool :)
 

adam1185

macrumors regular
Apr 30, 2004
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So what happens if you try and install this on a 20" iMac. Will it boot into windows at all?

What about external USB hard drives? Any word on whether or not you can load windows onto them?
 

Steve1496

macrumors 6502a
Apr 21, 2004
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adam1185 said:
So what happens if you try and install this on a 20" iMac. Will it boot into windows at all?

What about external USB hard drives? Any word on whether or not you can load windows onto them?


You'll get to the part where you're supposed to wait two and a half minutes. From here it'll hang and not do anything. The problem is with the video drivers in xom.efi
 

AidenShaw

macrumors P6
Feb 8, 2003
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The Peninsula
Free ??

prostuff1 said:
That is freaking SWEET!!! According to what i have found my school (OSU) and my major (computer science and engineering) is eligable for FREE XP SP2 discs!!
More likely that some small portion of your tuition has already been sent to Microsoft to cover the campus-wide licensing agreement.
 

mrplow

macrumors member
Sep 18, 2004
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AidenShaw said:
More likely that some small portion of your tuition has already been sent to Microsoft to cover the campus-wide licensing agreement.


exactly right... but it's fun to think it's free


back to drivers- i downlaoded the wifi/ethernet/chipset drivers yesterday, though most of the sites are flooded and down... does anyone know if ati drivers or anything else were discovered yet?

also on the note of school software.. has anyone gotten OS X from their college? at Univ of Pitt they give all the microsoft stuff on official MS cds.. but OS X is on a burned CD they labeled themselves-- kinda lame
 

AEMV

macrumors newbie
Mar 16, 2006
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I will wait until around April 1st to get my MacBook or whatever it is apple announces that day...CANT FREAKIN WAIT!!!
 

iSee

macrumors 68040
Oct 25, 2004
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g.x said:
I've always wanted to title a post with that.

Okay, okay, so I AM a bone-head...didn't know you can right-click and eject a disc from Windows.

And as far as putting it in, I never knew that it worked like a car stereo tray...you just push it in? I (poor me) have a lowly g3 ibook...I have to "eject" to open the tray before I can load a disc.

Now you've got the mad hak0r skillzzz to run XPonMac like the big boys ;) :rolleyes: :D
 

Maaij

macrumors newbie
Sep 16, 2004
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mrplow said:
exactly right... but it's fun to think it's free


back to drivers- i downlaoded the wifi/ethernet/chipset drivers yesterday, though most of the sites are flooded and down... does anyone know if ati drivers or anything else were discovered yet?

Do you have a link for the wifi, ethernet and chipset drivers?
 

iMeowbot

macrumors G3
Aug 30, 2003
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mrplow said:
It requires Nero-- nero has a 'bootable cd' option and it is imperative to making these instructions work. (if someone put it all together and made an image, im sure that could be distributed and burned on a mac)
The current instructions use Nero, but that's not going to be a hard and fast requirement. El Torito discs can be created from a Mac too.
 

mrplow

macrumors member
Sep 18, 2004
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iMeowbot said:
The current instructions use Nero, but that's not going to be a hard and fast requirement. El Torito discs can be created from a Mac too.

true, but the procedure calls for a boot.img file that nero utilizes when creating it- i don't know of any mac software which does this.. especially since its speifically creating a generic pc bootable disk, something a mac certainly is not


i do agree though, im sure a work around will spring up in the next couple days for people without a PC
 

mrplow

macrumors member
Sep 18, 2004
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Maaij said:
Do you have a link for the wifi, ethernet and chipset drivers?

i did, but seeing as i just formatted my imac to do all this...... i think they were on an osx86 forum so look there if it ever comes back.. or msg me later and i can just send them on aim or something
 

ScubaDuc

macrumors 6502
Aug 7, 2003
257
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Europe
virus1 said:
its only bad for the user.

ie. viruses, slowness, stupidity, popups..

the casual microsoft windows.


Mmm, if I use window XP without surfing, will I still get viruses and spyware? :confused: I doubt it

If I run Office on or Photoshop on XP, will they be as "slow" as with rosetta since those apps are not UB yet? :confused: I doubt this also

I think having a choice is always good for users and most on this forum are experienced enough to know when and for what to boot into XP
 
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