Windows XP Booting on Mac Contest Over

[mrplow]

Exactly what I'm worried about. To all you people with somebody elses mac at work, you go girl! But it's not coming anywhere near my rather expensive soon-to-arrive bundle of joy! Hopefully this experiment with "good" & "evil" in the same box won't cause flames, but turn out really good for the fledgling Apple universe. After a good deal of reviews I may give it a go

somehow my hard drive ended up being read as uninstallable for OSX no matter what I did.. then magically it came back and I got OS X installed :-D XP is installing now, so I really don't see any potential problems with getting back to stock configuration-- since I just did it

 

[milo]

Macworld reports one user stating that XP on the Mac is useless or pretty much useless for gaming. What are the reports of this? If it's easy to install the drivers for the iMac video card - what are the potential problems?

There's a simple solution for the video drivers. You need to put a piece of tape on the side of your mac that has the chinese writing for "this side" on it.

 

[Steve1496]

mac mini core solo

You sure you're using the right xom.efi ? I'm not sure how it is in the final release package but in the test package, you needed a different (from imacs and MBP) package for the Mac Mini because people had that same problem.

Also note it takes around 3 minutes with no feedback on MacMini.

 

[harveypooka]

There's a simple solution for the video drivers. You need to put a piece of tape on the side of your mac that has the chinese writing for "this side" on it.

Helpful, thanks.

 

[DougTheImpaler]

Gah! I'm amazed at the people who think the Mac platform is in such dire straits as to think this hack, used by a small minority of the small minority of Mac owners who own an Intel Mac, could kill the platform. *sigh*

Funny that this argument popped up on a thread about 'how to make your Mac more PC!"

I declare you the thread winnar. LOL

Or maybe he'll just not bother making a video since all the ungrateful ***holes just whined about it anyway.

I never said I didn't appreciate it, it just gave me a headache to watch.

Next time I'll add an "LOL" or maybe a "" or possible a "" for the non-humor-inclined. LOL

 

[scheming]

good for people like me

this is good for people like me. i have enough money to have one computer. i know there are various programs (and games) that run only on windows, but i would much rather do all my regular work on mac osx. right now, i have an acer aspire 2010, pretty cool windows laptop, but i would much rather have a macbook pro. with the possibilty of having windows and mac osx coexisting on a single machine im in heaven.

 

[AEMV]

I dont think there is any way to damage the mac with this solution since there is no firmware hacking involved.

All you are doing is placing a new boot file inside the core services. Wiping out the hardrive should fix any problems you might encounter.

 

[liketom]

You sure you're using the right xom.efi ? I'm not sure how it is in the final release package but in the test package, you needed a different (from imacs and MBP) package for the Mac Mini because people had that same problem.

Also note it takes around 3 minutes with no feedback on MacMini.

mm good idea i will download a newer patch - i'm right in thinking the 777k xp folder is the one right ?

 

[janstett]

But for all those people who are waiting/drooling over "Virtual PC at native speeds," please pull your head out so it can get some air. Plenty of friendly people on this site (obviously not me) have kindly tried to educate you and you are simply ignoring them.

Absolutely. People are forgetting that Virtual PC does already exist on Windows, I use it all the time (mostly to run Red Hat 9 on my XP latpop). While it's usable, it is NOT anywhere near native speed. The way VPC behaves on Windows with other X86 operating systems will be a good indication (maybe even a best case) for intel VPC on Mac.

 

[plinden]

The install disk has to be copied and altered. Does Microsoft allow Windows install disks to be duplicated?

Anyone can create a slipstreamed XP CD for easy reinstallation. IT depts in companies often have a customized XP install that they use to quickly get users up and running.

The legal difficulty is in running more than one copy, but you can get a WinXP Pro OEM license for $70.

 

[SPUY767]

It should be noted, that while OS X is both far more stable and user friendly than Windows XP, OS X can also crash on occasion.

After updating to 10.4.5, running MS VPC 7.02 with Virtual Switch Networking, my G5 (Quad 2.5 with 8GB of RAM connected to a 30 inch Apple Cinema Dispaly through an nVidia FX4500) continually locked up.

If you've never seen it the screen whites over one line at a time starting at the top and displays a messages stating that you have to reboot using the power button.

Certainly much more aesthetically pleasing than MS's BSOD but equally as damaging.

The only solution was to change to Shared Networking in VPC. I'm hoping MS will issue a fix but I'm not holding my breath.

~iGuy

True, no matter how well written the OS is, it can't prevent poor programming by the application providers. When I was writing some multi-threaded SMP code in XCode, I forgot a crucial check in my code and my application would there by have both processors in my DP 2.5 access the same address in memory at exactly the same time. Out like a light. Some things the kernel just can't handle, and never will be able to. windows crashes more partle because the OS is cobbled together with backward compatibility for twenty years of crapware in mind, but also in part because there is more poorly coded SW on the windows side. It is of not, that with one exception, in four years of Running OS X I've only crashed twice where I couldn't directly attribute it to a software application doing something stupid.

 

[baylormac]

i tried both

You are creating these from the installer's disk utility, and not in OS X, right?

I tried both. Neither gave me the option to format one partition one way and a second the other. I could pick between HFS+, HFS+ journaled and so on for both or the MS-DOS option for both.

 

[squigles@mac.co]

So in order to install Windows XP on a Mac your going to need to have a PC as well ?

Forgive me but am I missing something here ????

 

[Steve1496]

So in order to install Windows XP on a Mac your going to need to have a PC as well ?

Forgive me but am I missing something here ????

For now yes. But you only need it for about 10 minutes to create the CD. It does not require you own a CD, you could just a friends PC to burn the disc on.

 

[AEMV]

You only need a PC to use Nero and burn the Mac Friendly XP CD. There might be other OSX CD burning utilities which support the same feature needed from nero so that no PC in needed.

BTW, forums.onmac.net are UP!!

 

[Steve1496]

mm good idea i will download a newer patch - i'm right in thinking the 777k xp folder is the one right ?

I'm not so sure what's going on here. I downloaded the final from mirror #4, and it only includes 1 xom.efi. Blanka stated you needed a different one for a MacMini...well, since the forum is down, I can't get it and I can't figure out why its not in the release package.

 

[glazerman]

How do I do it?

I'm a newbie on this forum, but a long time Windows and mac user. I don't know if instructions have been posted yet, but if they have, can someone help me find instructions for booting XP on the MacBook Pro? If it hasn't been posted yet, any idea of when?

Thanks

 

[AEMV]

DOWNLOAD MIRRORS

Mirror 1:
http://harrisonjordan.com/Winxponmac_0.1.zip

Mirror 2:
http://leewilkins.com/share/winxponmac0.1.zip

Mirror 3:
http://www.jerrybrace.com/Winxponmac 0.1.zip

Mirror 4:
http://www.geekdinner.co.uk/winxponmac0.1.zip

Mirror 5:
http://www.apple.tempex.sk/wordpress/Winxponmac 0.1.zip

 

[liketom]

I'm not so sure what's going on here. I downloaded the final from mirror #4, and it only includes 1 xom.efi. Blanka stated you needed a different one for a MacMini...well, since the forum is down, I can't get it and I can't figure out why its not in the release package.

this could be the reason why i'm nopw on my 8 cd rom

has anyone with a Mac Mini Solo or duo got this working ? if so info please

 

[Steve1496]

Since the forums are back up, I downloaded the xom.efi Blanka made for MacMini. Here's the file.
EDIT: Why isn't MR accepting my upload? Its only 120KB
Drivers from my post at onmac forums:
Wireless: http://tinyurl.com/jxqsn
Ethernet: http://www.marvell.com/drivers/upload/SetupYukonWin_x32_v84923.zip


*WARNING* to MacMini users: Do not install Intel Video drivers! They will render your install useless and you'll have to start over.

 

[mrplow]

so if nothing else i hope others can learn from my mistakes

i made two partitions, huge OSX and small MSDOS... whenever i go to install XP the instructions say to choose partition 2, but my MSDOS prtition is now partition 3.... AKA- when using Disk Utility, you MUST make the first partition your MSDOS and the second one OSX.... ((just trying to help))

 

[quigleybc]

Exactly what I'm worried about. To all you people with somebody elses mac at work, you go girl! But it's not coming anywhere near my rather expensive soon-to-arrive bundle of joy! Hopefully this experiment with "good" & "evil" in the same box won't cause flames, but turn out really good for the fledgling Apple universe. After a good deal of reviews I may give it a go

Agreed, I'll let others experiment for this for a long while..and let them be the guinea pigs...

I don't even install Mac OS updates for a few days..so..ya..I'll be watching this one for a while..

Not that I even have an intel mac....

But

By the time I do get one, I figure this will be all sorted out and perfected.

Until then....good luck to you all...

 

[VanNess]

You guys are all missing the really big story here!

(at the time of this post)

I doubt even the Mac 128k woulda had that good a rating, had Macrumors existed in 1984.

Are you crazy? The Mac 128K would get universally negative reviews.

"Mouse? WTF is a mouse, and where does Apple get these retarded names?"

"********. It doesn't even have a hard drive. My Lisa can fit ten Twiggy disks on the hard drive. And it doesn't have any expansion capabilities. Millions of options are available for my Lisa. Show me something impressive, Steve. At this rate, I won't be upgrading for years."

"Apple is switching to square pixels? Worst... mistake... ever."

"Look at that bloated worthless excuse for an OS. Think of how much power you'd have running just Microsoft BASIC or something light like that."

"It's only 6MHz faster than my Apple III. Lousy speed bump."

"It's... not... backward-compatible. It can't run Apple II or III or Lisa programs? And wtf is that little slot on the front of the machine. I know that ain't for floppies. Not my floppies. Great, Steve. I spent $360,512 on software that just became absolutely worthless. **** it, I'm switching to Osborne."

"OMG LOL integrated monitor? 9 inches? I wonder if I could hack in a 10 if I got a curling iron and a heavy-duty stapler."

"Lame. That GUI makes it look like a little girl's toy. If I used something with a GUI, I'd have deep questions about my heterosexuality."

"Yeah, but will it run XENIX?"

"You're an idiot fanboy if you think this was a positive step. Steve's RDF is clearly going to his head. They'll let that idiot do anything now."

"Sorry. Sony already patented Burrell Smith."

This should really be a thread of its own.

You mean like this thread?

 

[mrplow]

You mean like this thread?

That site certainly needs archived for life...


to be fair, $399 sucked the balls.

 

[plinden]

Surely this wouldn't affect games like Minesweeper and FreeCell.

OK these probably already work on Darwine, but for lots of Windows users these are games they miss on a Mac.

B

Minesweeper
Freecell