Windows XP Booting on Mac Contest Over

[milo]

could be a problem for the Mac OS. Who would develop for OSX if users can just use Windows on the same machine?

Developers who want to keep selling to people who won't ever do this, and people who will do this but still will buy the mac version over the windows version. And who wouldn't do that?

If anything, this will put more pressure on developers to do simultaneous release or close to it.

Don't forget, you have to actually reboot the machine to run windows. Telling a user "just run the windoze version" is still a kludge solution. That may change when we see VPC or WINE running at native speeds.

very few people who want to run dual OS's are actually going hack around in their computer to do it.

Come on, very few people want to run dual os's. And they're hacking around to do it already. It's not like it's a mainstream thing, this is WAY more appealing than running windoze and linux to the mainstream user.

Was the solution posted by the same guy/girl/hacker-person as the photos?

Absolutely. Were you living under a rock? When the video was posted, the guy in charge of the contest posted that he had been in touch with the team and thought it was likely the contest was over.

I want to see if Apple sues or breaks this hack.

That would be surprising considering Apple has already said they're fine with it. Not to mention that there's nothing remotely illegal about it.

My old Toshiba satellite has a battery indicator.

Also, while we're de-bunking myths---the Windows BSOD was a Win98 thing. Under XP, it's more like OSX--individual program crashes/freezes are isolated to the program, which can be stopped separately using the task manager.

I've had full system crashes in XP. And I'm pretty sure the screen still goes blue.

Perhaps. But you still need a PC with XP on it, which is contrary to the number 1 reason people want to have XP on a Mac...

Until someone just makes an install DVD and puts it on torrents and newsgroups. Which of course would be illegal and bad. Bad hacker! Or just a patch that patches an existing XP install disk, which is much more legal.

If you are company "considering" the development of a OS X-native program, you will think TWICE, if not THRICE, to make such a bold move.

So the big loss to the Apple community...is apps that already aren't available for mac? "We weren't going to do an OSX version...but now we're REALLY not going to do one!"

 

[kerbawya]

...not once since using XP have I ever had a blue screen of anything...I look at comments like these from certain mac users about windows and can only assume they have not used XP...

Yea, that must be it...
All I can say is good luck with that...

 

[50548]

What a silly POV. If your argument is true, why do people even bother developing for the mac platform in the first place?

After a few months of dual booting, VPC8, VMWARE or whatever else. I'll be happy to pick this thread back up and say "hey look, people are still developing software for OS X".....

I actually think mac developers will be insulted that you think they are so spineless.

Is "spine" another word for "business"?

I am talking about developers that COULD be porting things to Mac, and this includes prospective business software and games...if Apple says: "No problem, we do Windows too, just install a legacy XP CD", what the hell is the appeal for a OS X version of AutoCAD (that has been seriously considered for the last months)? NONE.

People developed for Mac OS because it represented a DIFFERENT PLATFORM, with DIFFERENT AUDIENCE and DIFFERENT HARDWARE. Never had we such quick and easy solutions for running PC software. Even Macs that had x86 boards represented a costly niche market, with add-on items and so on.

If all goes well, soon we'll be seeing WinOnMac packages for just 50 bucks...Aspyr will be just one of the first companies going the way of the dodo...and Autodesk will OBVIOUSLY pink-slip any future porting plans...after all, WHY BOTHER?

 

[freeny]

It's gonna need some video drivers to make it perform.

Didnt you swear this was a fake a thread or two ago?

 

[iSee]

Perhaps. But you still need a PC with XP on it, which is contrary to the number 1 reason people want to have XP on a Mac...

Yeah, but now that you can install XP on your Mac and get it off there.

 

[Sunrunner]

Pretty kol..
but what about if a user is working on Mac Only based programs and want to tranfer stuff from Windows only files or something? Will people have the availability to run both OS' at the same time.. like have one account under windows and another under OSX ?
Maybe that could be taken into consideration?

While Windoze, being the retarded OS that it is, cannot see HFS partitions, Mac OS can. Thusly, getting files between the two should be an easy copy back and forth (in the Mac OS only though). Not a big deal at all.

 

[Mikey Mike]

Now For The Big Test

Now can anyone out there make Win XP & Linux spin around like Fast User Switching with Shared Drives That'll be cool, but, maybe not too far away

 

[Veldek]

I don't see the big deal about making a CD on your PC.

Hmm, here's another idea. Don't know if this would work though.

Could you do the things you need to do for this install with an install via VPC? So if you have a G5 Mac with VPC, could you do these things (slowly) and get yourself a disc that you can use to install XP on your MacTel?

 

[virus1]

Hell just froze over!

no, heaven just installed a self destruct button

 

[Veldek]

Yeah, but now that you can install XP on your Mac and get it off there. Boy you must be really dense.

I don't think I am but I think you missed the point. Of course there are some that can use their existing PCs but there might also be the folks who don't have a PC yet and still like to have XP on their Mac.

 

[kerbawya]

Now can anyone out there make Win XP & Linux spin around like Fast User Switching with Shared Drives That'll be cool, but, maybe not too far away

I was just dreaming about that as well!

 

[Steve1496]

Thats interesting because if your using a copy of XP that is already installed and being used, in order to stay within the licensing agreements once you have in on your Mac you'll have to wipe it of the PC, else you'd have two copies of XP running from the same key.

Whether this would bother you or not I dont know as most of the people I know who run XP have never bought it anyway

Anyway, well done to the chaps for getting this done! Amazes me how quick its happened. Just want MS to come out with an Intel version of VPC and I'll order myself an iMac

Actually I have a Sony MCE PC and I just bought a copy of Windows XP Pro about two months ago.

Sorry, but there's no difference between getting these files from a P2P network or getting them from an internet café nor from a friend. It would be illegal either way as long as it's not your OWN disc.

No, no I meant using your Windows CD, you can go to a friends computer to use Nero Burning ROM to make your install CD.

Guys, I'm not a pirate.

 

[thegreatunknown]

why why WHY WHY. I don't use windows for a reason. why this?? why introduce terrible sh*t to our precious lives. ack!

 

[Steve1496]

Hmm, here's another idea. Don't know if this would work though.

Could you do the things you need to do for this install with an install via VPC? So if you have a G5 Mac with VPC, could you do these things (slowly) and get yourself a disc that you can use to install XP on your MacTel?

If Virtual PC supports CD burning, yeah, I don't see why that wouldn't work.

 

[Mikey Mike]

I was just dreaming about that as well!

Well lets put up $100 bucks and see what happens

Great minds think alike

 

[virus1]

I actually think mac developers will be insulted that you think they are so spineless.

well he is actually saying they aren't. he is just calling them stupid.

 

[Veldek]

No, no I meant using your Windows CD, you can go to a friends computer to use Nero Burning ROM to make your install CD.

Guys, I'm not a pirate.

Ah yes, this is a possibility. I didn't mean to sound like you were supporting piracy. I just thought that these were some points to consider.

 

[virus1]

no, heaven just installed a self destruct button

better yet, heaven just got a new window into hell

 

[kerbawya]

Actually I have a Sony MCE PC...

It's not in his sig!!
DON'T BELIEVE HIM!!!
NO APPLE COMPUTER WILL EVER BOOT WINDOWS!! MUHAHAHA

[god i don't want to study... ]

 

[iSee]

I don't think I am but I think you missed the point. Of course there are some that can use their existing PCs but there might also be the folks who don't have a PC yet and still like to have XP on their Mac.

Sorry, I was just kidding--a little circular logic humor. Well, fortunately I don't make a living as a comedian

 

[virus1]

Now can anyone out there make Win XP & Linux spin around like Fast User Switching with Shared Drives That'll be cool, but, maybe not too far away

i think they were talking about intel creating a chip that can run two os's at once. that would be cool, but without that chip, i doubt it could work.

 

[kerbawya]

Well lets put up $100 bucks and see what happens

Great minds think alike

Can I borrow a $100?...

 

[weg]

Developers who want to keep selling to people who won't ever do this, and people who will do this but still will buy the mac version over the windows version. And who wouldn't do that?

If anything, this will put more pressure on developers to do simultaneous release or close to it.

Totally agree.. I can imagine that there are even people who'd say to themselves "Ok, I'll run a pirated copy of Software X for Windows until they release the Mac version.. no way I'm going to pay twice".

 

[Steve1496]

It's not in his sig!!
DON'T BELIEVE HIM!!!
NO APPLE COMPUTER WILL EVER BOOT WINDOWS!! MUHAHAHA

[god i don't want to study... ]

It's not sig worthy

 

[weg]

why why WHY WHY. I don't use windows for a reason. why this?? why introduce terrible sh*t to our precious lives. ack!

Nobody forces you to install Windows on your Mac.