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Won’t this replace vision pro for a lot of you?
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Not to mention Immersed is planning to release their own App version of multiple desktops on the AVP. As is usual for Apple they restrict some features out of concern for the totality of the experience. Can it take multiple 5k screens and down size them quickly with little lag onto the AVP? apparently not fast enough for Apple.
yeah their buy now buy now circus makes me think its all marketing talk, very little useful details. However, there is a lot of good info on their discord channel if you care to read through it all. Their developers speak directly there.
Naa.. I think this is more like there is a crowd here that will use any excuse to downplay the AVP. I do think after reading their discord, the company itself seriously thinks they can pull this off, whether they can or can't remains to be seen. Do have to admit when I first saw the website I thought it was an April fool's prank.
The more people force me to think about this, I am not sure I am going to buy into a tethered device that the only claim to fame giving me more monitors. I like all the other things the AVP does. But I do agree with competition is good so perhaps we all win with this. I get it is more affordable than an AVP, at least in the short run.
You put down the AVP because you claim the software isnt there to make it useful (I debate that), but yet you literally are advocating for a device that does far less ...seems strange to me. Is it really only because it's more affordable? A bargain isn't a bargain if it doesn't do what you want it to do. Your first post makes a statement I just don't think is true. From my experience with the AVP it is useful for so much more than just mirroring my Mac. I would think the same if it mirrored five screens.
I was actually considering it until I got to the membership jargon. Most of the time SaaS doesnt make sense for the things you need a subscription for. I will not contribute to HaaS becoming the next thing consumers will need to spend their money on - so it will be a hard no simply for that reason.
No, my real world experience using VR systems is more on the designing and building engineered sculptures weighing "will definitely kill someone if it falls on them" to hang over people performing on stage, which can't be done effectively on 2D screens without depth perception. This is all done working at 1:1 in the 3D environment, walking around the model at full size in the workspace.
The basic paradigm of AVP - floating 2D computing iPad screens in space, in an iPadOS style restricted computing environment, or as a 3D preview space for 3D made on a 2D screen has literally no interest for me. I want to extend my Mac computing with a multi-display, or immersive 3D headset peripheral, not buy, manage and update another capability-constrained 2D-task computing device, that's yet another obsolescence ticking clock.
Ugh, membership? Why…Most of the people I’ve heard using vision pro is for screen mirroring and focusing.
Won’t this product be a direct replacement that’s even lighter so you can wear all day?Visor
www.visor.com
Looked interesting until I saw that. If I’m buying hardware I don’t want to be kept paying forever.
Is it shipping? It’s pointless to compare something which can’t be tested/used now. I am not gonna buy AVP 1.0 but would love to use immersive screen when I am traveling with my MBP. Hopefully AVP 2 and other devices will be ready when I want to buy.
If it needs membership and subscription, I won’t bother.
If it needs membership and subscription, I won’t bother.
NO. Are you pimping for that visor device?Most of the people I’ve heard using vision pro is for screen mirroring and focusing.
Won’t this product be a direct replacement that’s even lighter so you can wear all day?Visor
So, what do you use?
That's no the "basic paradigm" of the AVP. That's just an added benefit that it will run iPad apps. You keep talking about 2D Windows like the fact that the AVP provides this option is a bad thing. But then you also were discussing the need for mirroring multiple screens, which would also just be 2D screens. So I'm not sure what you see as the distinction here.
As for the closed OS, yes. Apple is a walled garden. But that doesn't take away the capabilities of the AVP unless ultimately the apps you need aren't developed for it natively. But even then, you can mirror your laptop to run those apps.
The idea that the AVP is a "2D task computing device" is only in your imagination.
3D modeling will come to the AVP sooner rather than later. So I'm not really sure what your point with any of this is. The AVP will compete with the best of headsets to provide a 3D modeling space.
Same.
I was starting to wonder if they ship to Europe, but no way, im not paying a subscription for a piece of hardware.
If the non-subscription price was around 700€, I would be really interested, because it mainly does what Im really interested about Vision Pro. If Apple made a much cheaper version of the Vision Pro with just this functionality, I would probably try it and buy it if my eyes can handle it.
There’s actually quite a few of this style “screen glasses” device out there today on Amazon. Some of them actually get pretty good reviews as well.
I’ve thought about toying around with one as I need at least 3 screens to keep myself organized between email, browser, powershell, VM’s/Servers, etc….but I have a wedding coming up and I should be responsible in the meantime 😅
Someone help me to understand, because I guess I just don't understand.
So, these glasses basically give you an environment in which you can place up to 5 flat, 2D monitors in space.
But...are there apps that run on your device (laptop, phone, etc) that are designed to display in 3D? Meaning, can I use anything in 3D on these glasses? Or is it just for mirroring your 2D content only?
How would I display 3D YouTube videos, for example, if I'm streaming off of my Mac onto these glasses?
What am I missing?
So, these glasses basically give you an environment in which you can place up to 5 flat, 2D monitors in space.
But...are there apps that run on your device (laptop, phone, etc) that are designed to display in 3D? Meaning, can I use anything in 3D on these glasses? Or is it just for mirroring your 2D content only?
How would I display 3D YouTube videos, for example, if I'm streaming off of my Mac onto these glasses?
What am I missing?
Actually - Apple just enabled the ability for Vision Pro users to do just this. You can have a friend sit next to you virtually on the couch while you watch a movie. You an get people together to whiteboard and otherwise share/collaborate in apps. The caveat is everyone has to use the AVP. Hope it expands.
There are already tethered devices out there. Came across one that sounds like it's very similar to this one. Wish I could remember the name. It has to be tethered where I believe this one MAY be able to do 5 monitors wirelessly. Still - like someone else said, you may not need more than one shared monitor. Maybe two. If I could use my VP with my work laptop (windows) - man, I could be in the VP all day!
Reading through your responses leads me to believe you think you need to defend your expensive purchase of AVP, when in fact, there are cheaper AND better alternatives. This post is an example but there are several others (XReal Air Pro 2 and Brilliant’s AR glasses). AVP is SO far behind in the AR and VR space. I’m sure Meta’s next Quest will be significantly cheaper, and lighter, with the same, if not more features than AVP. And rumor has it that the next iteration of AVP is a few years away, which leaves room for other companies, such as Samsung, to introduce their AVP competitor.
Also, DO NOT FORGET Samsung entered and exited the VR space MANY years ago, therefore holds a plethora of patents they can apply to a VR headset if they want to.
Huh? That's not the basic paradigm of the AVP. You haven't used it. An app ready on day 1 is called Jig. You can view things like an F1 car, jet engine, etc. in 3D in your space and walk around it. You can pull it apart and see what's inside while placing the parts you remove around your space. The Immersion videos you have to have heard about make it feel like you are literally there - wherever the video is taking place. It's the best VR er XR device out there right now.
You want to build a sculpture you can move around, hang from above, etc? You won't find anything better than the VP. Pretty sure, though, there are other devices you can do this with as well. But the VP - whew - it's too real for most.
Why do you keep posting variations of this in multiple threads? We get it. You don’t like AVP. Its existence clearly offends you on a visceral level. Do yourself a favor and stop visiting the AVP forum, it’ll make you happier in the long run!
Not even close. This entire thread is dedicated to comparing a vapor ware product that doesn’t do what the AVP can do today. I love my AVP. Use it every day. It’s worth more than what I paid for it. What I don’t get is why people feel the need to constantly tear this thing down. People feel the need to compare it to devices where the only thing in common is you put it on your face.
I certainly don’t believe there are better devices out there for my needs. Devices that share similar tech cost about what the VP costs and more. I posted a site a while back that tries to compare various AR, VR, XR type devices. Look at Varjo for instance.
I think it’s funny you believe the AVP is so far behind in the AR/VR space. What on earth are you comparing it to? And Samsung? Seriously - what are you doing here? You don’t add ANY value to the conversation and your comparisons are hysterical.
I just don’t want big screens and displays but ability to interact with elements in display with features, BT key board or other devices. If it’s just display and I need to be using key board of MBP it defeats the purpose.
No, the main reason is the weight and comfort. I cannot wear AVP for more than 1 hour comfortably