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The fast food chain in this region (Zip’s) has a hamburger called a Papa Joe’s, which includes a slice of ham. :) It’s really quite good and not very expensive.
That makes me think of all the cheese steak shops that put green peppers on their sandwiches, but in eight years of living in Philadelphia, I never saw such a monstrosity.
 
I do like a good cheesesteak; at least now I know what reality is :)
Every time I enter such a shop, I ask what they use and how they do it and usually, I have to explain to them what happens in Philadelphia. 😆

There was such a shop in this town. They even had their Amoroso bread flown from Philly. I asked about the cheese and the meat. They didn't tell me that they put mayonnaise on it. I don't know how long they were in business, but they closed their doors a few months after that.
 
Every time I enter such a shop, I ask what they use and how they do it and usually, I have to explain to them what happens in Philadelphia. 😆

There was such a shop in this town. They even had their Amoroso bread flown from Philly. I asked about the cheese and the meat. They didn't tell me that they put mayonnaise on it. I don't know how long they were in business, but they closed their doors a few months after that.
I thought mayonnaise was standard on a cheesesteak? How are they supposed to be made?
 
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I thought mayonnaise was standard on a cheesesteak? How are they supposed to be made?
Bread (preferably Amoroso), thin steak, cheese (mozzarella, provolone, or cheeze whiz) are the basics. Some like the steak cut into small pieces (Geno's) and others have it whole (Pat's).

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You go to the window and order

(I want) one provolone wit! The wit signifies with grilled onions.

Two mozzarella

10 Cheese Whiz

With Geno's or Pat's, 11th St and Passyunk Ave, you order correctly or you go hungry.

Da way you gotta say it may irritate someone, but them's the rules. You know what I'm saying, yous guys?
 
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Bread (preferably Amoroso), thin steak, cheese (mozzarella, provolone, or cheeze whiz) are the basics. Some like the steak cut into small pieces (Geno's) and others have it whole (Pat's).

(Back on Topic)

You go to the window and order

(I want) one provolone wit! The wit signifies with grilled onions.

Two mozzarella

10 Cheese Whiz

With Geno's or Pat's, 11th and Passyunk Sts, you order correctly or you go hungry.

Da way you gotta say it may irritate someone, but them's the rules. You know what I'm saying, yous guys?
I hear you loud and clear!!! MAYONNAISE on a Philly Cheesesteak???? Oh, the horror!!! Blasphemy!!!!!
 
What do I know? I'm just a Westerner... Only lived in New York City (Governor's Island) for 6 months while I went to USCG Electronics Technician A School...
The owner of the house is 81 and was watching Fox News Now and they were talking about the Christmas tree in downtown Manhattan. I'm like "downtown? That's midtown. WTAF!" 😆 😆
 
That's because everybody who was anybody invaded Britain and liked it so much that they stayed long enough to inflict some of their language on the local people.

This included the Romans (Latin), various Viking groups (different Norse/Teutonic languages), Angles/Saxons/Jutes (ancient German/Teutonic ), the French (ancient French). Later on, as international trade progressed, this included Portugese, Dutch, Spanish, Indian, etc, etc, etc.

Along with the vocabulary, some snippets of grammar slipped in.

And then you've got the various dialects of English on the British mainland, starting from the Cornish in the south to the Scots in the north. And not forgetting the Welsh, and all the various flavours of London English.

In the 1700's some English academics tried to enforce some formal structure to English by adopting a whole heap of Latin grammar rules, like gerunds. This, however, did nothing for the various flavours of vocabulary and accent.
Nor did it prevent such abominations as the word 'hamburger', which, while including beef, lettuce, tomato, cheese, egg, bacon, pineapple and (canned) beetroot, would never include ham.

It is truly astonishing that any two British people can understand each other, much less foreigners understand them...

And nobody picked up on Australians putting both pineapple and beetroot on their hamburgers?
BTW, we also put pineapple but not beetroot on pizza.
 
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And nobody picked up on Australians putting both pineapple and beetroot on their hamburgers?
BTW, we also put pineapple but not beetroot on pizza.
Pineapple and teriyaki sauce is wonderful on a hamburger. When you say “beetroot”, do you mean just “beets”, the dark purple very firm root vegetable that the juice stains everything it touches?
 
Pineapple and teriyaki sauce is wonderful on a hamburger. When you say “beetroot”, do you mean just “beets”, the dark purple very firm root vegetable that the juice stains everything it touches?

It has to be canned beetroot, so that it is soft and drippy, and immediately deposits carmine juices on white shirts and blouses.
 
"continue on."
that's a tautology.
to "continue" by itself, is sufficient.

also "guys" as a generic term for a group of both males and females.
"guys" are fellas.
(remember "guys and dolls" - the movie from 50's)
whatever happened to plain old hey "everybody".

and don't get me started on "off of" …
Off of is nasty.

Continue on ... never heard it used incorrectly myself. "Continue on this road ..." is ok.

Guys is now unisex. Personally, I'm OK with that. Better than using "dolls" :)
 
"continue on."
that's a tautology.
to "continue" by itself, is sufficient.
Agreed.
whatever happened to plain old hey "everybody".
Again, agreed.
and don't get me started on "off of" …

Off of is nasty.
"Off of" is one of those perfectly ghastly expressions that really really irks me, irks me to gritted teeth in frustration, not to mention grinding my teeth in mute outrage.
Continue on ... never heard it used incorrectly myself. "Continue on this road ..." is ok.
Agreed.
Guys is now unisex. Personally, I'm OK with that. Better than using "dolls" :)
Yes, much though the expression occasionally annoys me, I think that you are right.

Actually, I have found myself using it when delivering, or giving, briefings to a mixed - if mostly, or majority - male - audience.

While - to my mind - "everyone", or "everybody" are both preferable (to "guys", or "you guys") - "guys" has somehow assumed the status of a unisex catch-all term, one that is now casually applied to everyone, (and, as a feminist, I have my own thoughts on this, the old default male stuff thoughtlessly considered to apply to all yet again, but there are other - better - battles to fight in what we might loosely describe as culture conflicts, or battles).

And agreed, "dolls" is utterly hideous.
 
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Off of is nasty.
I use "off of" occasionally, depending on the context. I copy data off of a hard drive, CD, etc. Similarly, when I'm tearing down after a show, I take my Yamaha keyboard off of the stand. But, as soon as I'm done cooking, I move the pot off the stove top. And if I'm sick of social media, I'll get off Snapchat. However, if an Amazon order arrives, I remove the packaging from the product--not take the packaging off of the product.
Guys is now unisex. Personally, I'm OK with that. Better than using "dolls" :)
What I hate is "you guys's" - pronounced "you guy-sis." As in referring to multiple people: "Hey kids, clean up you guys's room!" Or, "when you get to immigration control, show them you guys's passports."
 
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I use "off of" occasionally, depending on the context. I copy data off of a hard drive, CD, etc. Similarly, when I'm tearing down after a show, I take my Yamaha keyboard off of the stand. But, as soon as I'm done cooking, I move the pot off the stove top. And if I'm sick of social media, I'll get off Snapchat. However, if an Amazon order arrives, I remove the packaging from the product--not take the packaging off of the product.
"Off of" is a linguistic horror, (one that I only ever see used in writing from Across The Pond), and worse, an entirely unnecessary one, for that second word, namely, the "of" is utterly redundant in this context.

Instead, the preposition - or word - "from" - which is what tends to be used in the UK and Ireland - works perfectly well and is how sentences that required this form of usage were (and are) constructed.

Thus, for example, citing your examples from your earlier post: "I copy hard data from a computer; I take my Yamaha keyboard off the stand".
 
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What I hate is "you guys's" - pronounced "you guy-sis." As in referring to multiple people: "Hey kids, clean up you guys's room!" Or, "when you get to immigration control, show them you guys's passports."
I meant to return to this post.

Citing your example, what is wrong with saying (instructing) as follows: "When you get to immigration, show them your passports".

In modern English, the pronoun "your" describes both single individuals, and plurals, namely, a group of individuals.

Historically, yes, English (in common with most other European languages) did draw a marked distinction between the single pronoun (it used to be Thou, Thee, Thine) and the plural (which was always 'you", "yours", or "your"), but this distinction has been obsolete for several centuries.
 
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I use "off of" occasionally, depending on the context. I copy data off of a hard drive, CD, etc. Similarly, when I'm tearing down after a show, I take my Yamaha keyboard off of the stand. But, as soon as I'm done cooking, I move the pot off the stove top. And if I'm sick of social media, I'll get off Snapchat. However, if an Amazon order arrives, I remove the packaging from the product--not take the packaging off of the product.

What I hate is "you guys's" - pronounced "you guy-sis." As in referring to multiple people: "Hey kids, clean up you guys's room!" Or, "when you get to immigration control, show them you guys's passports."
It's yous guys. Say it with me: "yous guys".

I miss Philly, Jersey, and NYC.
 
I will get these of my chest:

“Off of”

“Gotten”

“Write” instead of “write to” e.g “write my aunt” instead of “write to my aunt”

“Irregardless”

“Like for” e.g. “like for you to do this” instead of “like you to do this”

“Orient” instead of “orientate”

“Y’all”

And yes I know some of these have slipped into “normal” English. Background: I am a Brit who has lived in the US for 30 years and am a naturalized American citizen with dual nationality.
 
It's yous guys. Say it with me: "yous guys".

I miss Philly, Jersey, and NYC.
Never been to Philly or Jersey (except Newark Airport) but love NYC.

"Youse guys" is pretty regional and totally associated with that region. I can even picture the guys who would say that.
 
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