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iPersuade

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Just one thing from yesterday: I was looking for a file and realized that you can't sort files by "recently changed" so I had to sift through files manually. Also, the video controls in the files/preview app are not great.
Doesn’t sorting by date do exactly this? If not, wouldn’t the recents tab get you what you need?
 
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Slartibart

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First, sorting by which date? Access date? Modify date? Creation date? Second, recent tab recents everything, not just any particular folder. Neither of them are ideal.
iPadOS/iOS sorts by “date modified” AFAIK, so as @iPersuade suggested, sorting by date on iPadOS does list recently changed first, so this:
Just one thing from yesterday: I was looking for a file and realized that you can't sort files by "recently changed" so I had to sift through files manually.
is directly solved when you sort by date, at least on iPadOS 17.5.x. And then there is the search option, even in »Recents« you can nail things further down by date, file type, etc.

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At least the described problem seems to be quite easily solved - even when just relying on Apple’s Files.
 

Unami

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Doesn’t sorting by date do exactly this? If not, wouldn’t the recents tab get you what you need?

Probably :) Sorry, I confused english terms and have my ipadOS set to german so my son can use it. Point was: On the mac you have "Date added", "Date created", "Date modified" and "Date last opened" - all of which I use for work. On the iPad you don't get those.

I guess we can all agree on that the files app could be better.
 
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Circa1984

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I haven’t seen any day-to-day issues / lists of problems the iPad poses when working on it. So I’d like to hear other people’s feedback, and if any of you have the time to feed this stuff back to the developers, that would be super helpful!!

The iPad is fantastic, I own the M4 11”, but every few days something so BASIC will pop up that I can’t do on it, which baffles me.

Today; using Microsoft Teams, I’m writing a new post in a channel (many of you will be familiar with this). I’m a senior manager, so I do this from time to time on my MBA.

I decide to do it on my iPad for once. So I create the post, start writing it, then realise that I need a website link. I go to the website, flick back to Teams and the post draft is GONE. Gone.

It appears that it’s impossible to have Teams open with a post you’re writing, grab a website URL, then go back to it and finish the post off. Incredible.

Am I being dumb?!

Let’s hear everyone’s bizarre iPad work fails. I think we need this thread as a place for people to see just how bizarre and awkward it can be sometimes.

Again, I adore my new iPad, but it’s so close to being great for work, then sometimes so far away…
Microsoft has been hobbling the Mac and IOS versions of Office for decades. I am thankful they these versions even exist, but I am absolutely positive they will never be on par (or better) than their Windows counterparts. It’s quite a shame that Office is so integrated into the work place … still, IMO these incredibly mediocre collection of apps have held back productivity in the workplace for years. As a business owner, I’ve been ‘forced’ to continue to buy their software, Since it is still the expectation that documents should be created in Word PowerPoint and Excel. Teams has been a buggy mess for years(slowly progressing), but in this case even Windows users struggle with its issues on a near daily basis.
 
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fw85

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Unless you’re a graphic designer or a <5 year old child who is bored at a restaurant - iPads are useless.

Any other purpose has a better tool for the job. I’ve owned 2 now and regret both purchases.
What are you doing in the iPad forum then, if you have nothing that could be considered a valuable or rational thought to contribute?
 

kc9hzn

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i’ll stick with blaming the company who ran ads for the longest time insisting that my next computer need not be a computer.
The thing is, iOS has been able to handle PDFs from Day 1. PDFs basically come for free on iOS, macOS, visionOS even watchOS and tvOS. Because the display engine is a PDF (it’s called Display PDF). Everything on screen is a PDF, actually.

I’m assuming the form is a PDF form? If so, it really is the government’s fault for blocking PDFs on “mobile devices”. (Then again, so many web developers have failed to keep up with what mobile devices, Android or iOS, can do and still block features like file downloads.)
 

kc9hzn

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Fortunately for me, I am a graphic designer AND a <5 year old child who is bored at a restaurant.
And a Talking Moose to boot. Seems to check out, the Talking Moose probably would claim to be both!
 

sananda

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Teams is a mess on iPad. Microsoft should re-write it. It doesn’t work well with Stage Manager. Sometimes it won’t pull up the screen to join a meeting unless I unplug it. And if you move Teams to the external display and have your camera on, your picture appears sideways on screen. Zoom doesn’t do this, so it seems like a bug in Teams, not iPadOS.
It’s so irritating to have to unplug the external monitor just to join a meeting. Especially if I have neatly organised all the windows I was to refer to on the external monitor. The other annoying this is I don‘t get a see a view of the filing structure in Teams on iPad that shows up on the PC version.

Equally annoying, and I’m now talking more generally about other apps, is windows suddenly scrolling to a vastly different place in the document or note entirely without any action from me.

It’s also rather laborious to add apps to a set.

The last thing that doesn’t work for me is saving documents to SharePoint. But that may be something to do with the way my employers have set things up.
 

bluedoggiant

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I haven’t seen any day-to-day issues / lists of problems the iPad poses when working on it. So I’d like to hear other people’s feedback, and if any of you have the time to feed this stuff back to the developers, that would be super helpful!!

The iPad is fantastic, I own the M4 11”, but every few days something so BASIC will pop up that I can’t do on it, which baffles me.

Today; using Microsoft Teams, I’m writing a new post in a channel (many of you will be familiar with this). I’m a senior manager, so I do this from time to time on my MBA.

I decide to do it on my iPad for once. So I create the post, start writing it, then realise that I need a website link. I go to the website, flick back to Teams and the post draft is GONE. Gone.

It appears that it’s impossible to have Teams open with a post you’re writing, grab a website URL, then go back to it and finish the post off. Incredible.

Am I being dumb?!

Let’s hear everyone’s bizarre iPad work fails. I think we need this thread as a place for people to see just how bizarre and awkward it can be sometimes.

Again, I adore my new iPad, but it’s so close to being great for work, then sometimes so far away…

The memory management is hyper annoying, I’ll say that. It’s to blame for what happened to you. I’ve noticed 8gb units do better than 4GB for sure.
 
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shadowboi

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I go to the website, flick back to Teams and the post draft is GONE. Gone.
Hahah it still happens on new iPads? I thought they had 8-16 gb ram for a reason. Looks like it is not my old iPad Air but more like poorly optimized OS. Funnily enough, Macbooks now have way longer battery life with some REAL multitasking
 
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kave

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I haven’t seen any day-to-day issues / lists of problems the iPad poses when working on it. So I’d like to hear other people’s feedback, and if any of you have the time to feed this stuff back to the developers, that would be super helpful!!

The iPad is fantastic, I own the M4 11”, but every few days something so BASIC will pop up that I can’t do on it, which baffles me.

Today; using Microsoft Teams, I’m writing a new post in a channel (many of you will be familiar with this). I’m a senior manager, so I do this from time to time on my MBA.

I decide to do it on my iPad for once. So I create the post, start writing it, then realise that I need a website link. I go to the website, flick back to Teams and the post draft is GONE. Gone.

It appears that it’s impossible to have Teams open with a post you’re writing, grab a website URL, then go back to it and finish the post off. Incredible.

Am I being dumb?!

Let’s hear everyone’s bizarre iPad work fails. I think we need this thread as a place for people to see just how bizarre and awkward it can be sometimes.

Again, I adore my new iPad, but it’s so close to being great for work, then sometimes so far away…
People who claim iPad is great for work stuff are not using it for that or have never used Mac OS. For this year I bought a 13” iPad since I figured iPados would improve. Absolutely nothing new that helps us do work stuff. Its back to beeing a consumption device, which it is the best tool for. Reading manuals in portrait mode is better than my 16” MBP, reading maik, surfing some of the internet is also better, but even there not everything works.
 

Nhwhazup

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Our workplace is all Windows anyway.

I also use a Windows PC at home (on the very rare occasions the iPad can't do the job). It's just the iPhone and iPad that are in their own little world and for what I use them, I can live with iOS's restrictions.
Same here. I use my iPhone and iPad to do most everything. When I need to do some heavy duty spreadsheet work, I head to the PC.
 

asv56kx3088

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Since people are giving excuses for iPad fails by blaming Microsoft, here's my experience with an M1 iPad Pro, a year or two ago --

I sometimes do translation work on Notes, during which I need to reference a PDF document, which I will have open in Files in split view.
Often times I'd have to find some reference on the web by switching out to Safari.

I guess you can guess what will happen at this stage -- Yes, the Files app refreshes itself and the PDF document is gone

No big deal -- I simply re-opened the document then.

Oh, but I need the website for reference again, so I switch out to Safari.
Guess what, Safari refreshes.

And the cycle repeats itself.

Last fall I was caught by the Stage Manager hype and tried working that way. It didn't work because Files app often hangs when in that mode, so that's fun :D

By late last year I have realised that the iPad has no place in my life, which is when I sold it and be a MacBook + iPhone only guy.
 
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Digitalguy

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Since people are giving excuses for iPad fails by blaming Microsoft, here's my experience with an M1 iPad Pro, a year or two ago --

I sometimes do translation work on Notes, during which I need to reference a PDF document, which I will have open in Files in split view.
Often times I'd have to find some reference on the web by switching out to Safari.

I guess you can guess what will happen at this stage -- Yes, the Files app refreshes itself and the PDF document is gone

No big deal -- I simply re-opened the document then.

Oh, but I need the website for reference again, so I switch out to Safari.
Guess what, Safari refreshes.

And the cycle repeats itself.

Last fall I was caught by the Stage Manager hype and tried working that way. It didn't work because Files app often hangs when in that mode, so that's fun :D

By late last year I have realised that the iPad has no space in my life, which is when I sold it and be a MacBook + iPhone only guy.
wow M1 with 8GB and supposedly swap memory still does that...
 

erasr

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What does this have to do with anything?
Yes I see that in hindsight and thought myself it sounded a bit annoying. I actually intended it to help people understand why I was writing an important Teams post. It was a long one to all staff.

Basically, I was needing to get it right, had a lot of stuff going into that post, and as soon as I went to grab a URL and back to Teams, all my work was gone.

They never did get that post because it was too much effort first time to then lose it all. So, I want to add to the severity of this iPad issue in that other people have missed out on getting a useful post on Teams.

Now I know that Stage Manager would work, however, that thought didn’t come to me initially, and I wonder how many other people get caught out like that. It’s poor.
 
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SalisburySam

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I'm curious if disabling "Block Pop-ups" in Safari might have helped.

Some of the issues I've had with websites turned out to be due to Safari blocking pop-up windows.
Agreed, I’ve found the same. That said, I re-enable blocking as soon as I’m finished with those desired websites. The incidence today of an incredible amount of crap delivering an almost continuous barrage of pop-ups makes disabling this feature permanently a non-starter. At least for me. I only wish it were better for more of the “clever” pop-ups that do get through.
 
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rui no onna

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Last fall I was caught by the Stage Manager hype and tried working that way. It didn't work because Files app often hangs when in that mode, so that's fun :D

By late last year I have realised that the iPad has no place in my life, which is when I sold it and be a MacBook + iPhone only guy.

Stage Manager is not as bad as it used to be back when it was first released. From experience, it maintains apps active better than split view does at the expense of higher RAM usage. That said, it seems the MacBook is a much better fit for you.

My employer provides me with a Window desktop and laptop for work. For personal use, the iPad works fine for me 99% of the time.

I do use my 13” iPad as an extra display at work (for emails, messaging, videos, etc). I just leave Stage Manager enabled on it all the time because it’s a lot better at keeping apps active.
 
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