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Apps WorkOutDoors: New workout features
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It should still be a long press, but that seems to be unreliable in recent versions of watchOS, which is why I wrote my own version of the long press menu for the main workout screen. I haven't done that for all the other screens though. To be honest I didn't know if anyone actually used those shortcuts! It's worth rebooting the watch to see if that helps. If not then you will have to change it manually. Sorry about that.
I think Apple are phasing the long press menu out because it is unintuitive, so my plan is to make those options available in some other way when I rewrite the UI in SwiftUI.
I have not heard of the default always being 5k. It seems to remember it for me. Hopefully a reboot will help.
foot pod = zwift runpod, formally known as milestone pod
power = stages G3 left crank
both logs show repeated instances of:
All Sensors Connected
Initialising sensor connections...
do the sensors connect directly to the watch, or via the phone ?
I think I may be able to replicate this:
1) unpair the sensor on the watch,
2) then disable bluetooth,
3) and scan for sensors on the watch, which finds the foot pod - presumably via the watch (connected via wifi?) - since watch bluetooth is off.
4) starting a run fails to find the foot pod, since bluetooth is off
5) once watch bluetooth is turned back on it finds the sensor and starts the activity - but now flashes up connection messages in the footer and shows erratic data with the logs full of the same sensor messages (initialising and connecting over and over).
unpairing and repairing doesn't seem to fix the issue, but terminating WOD and restarting it does seem to work (doesn't need a watchOS restart).
does this suggest some conflict between how the sensor is paired, ie: directly with the watch, or via the phone ?
The iPhone app uses the iPhone Bluetooth and the watch app uses the watch Bluetooth. So the watch Bluetooth is always used during a workout.
So did this happen when you were switching Bluetooth on during the sensor connection screen at the start? I haven't checked that. Does it work correctly when Bluetooth is switched on before starting a workout?
I don't know how this issue initially arose - but the steps above show that you can scan for sensors on the watch even when watch bluetooth is off - and pair the sensor for an activity type - as seen here (phone says disconnected, since bluetooth is off on the watch - but sensor still found?)
With watch bluetooth on again, the erratic sensor behaviour now continues until WOD is terminated and restarted
How does the watch find the sensor when bluetooth is off - is it using the phone via wifi ? or does it temporarily re-enable bluetooth when scanning is requested ?
The app remembers what sensors are nearby. They are only shown there so you can decide whether you want to pair with them, and pairing does not require Bluetooth to be on, because it just tells the app to remember the sensor.
Part of the reason for this is because of a limitation of Bluetooth on watchOS where any devices will disconnect when you lower your wrist, so the app needs to reconnect again when you raise it. This would mean the device would disappear every time you hadn't interacted with the app for a few seconds and then take a few seconds to reappear.
This disconnection limitation does not exist when the watch is running a workout, but that isn't the case when scanning and pairing. Also from what I have read it seems to not be a limitation with watchOS 9, so I may change the way things work when that is released.
@cfc I know you mentioned that adding sub categories to fitness activities was on your road map (e.g. different types of running activity which allow different screens). Wondering if it would be possible to have settings for each activity. For example if I'm doing an interval workout I switch off auto laps and auto pause, when undertaking a general run I use auto laps of a mile, while running a 5k ParkRun I use auto laps using km. Currently having to manually change these for each run but would be nice if they could change automatically.
Fab! I rebooted watch and it seemed the same, but then killing the app on the watch and restarting it solved both issues. I find the shortcut handy (once I’d stumbled on it!) because I’m generally doing 5k or 10k for events where I’d like to see the estimated finish time. I also discovered recently that the crown adjusts the distance much more easily than the + - buttons.
Thanks for your super app and amazing support!
That sounds a compromise that would be easier to implement. The interval schedules are already a good workaround to have different screen formats, alerts etc for different types of the same activity. They have the over-ride option for alerts, so it wouldn't look out of place to add other over-ride options for auto-pause, auto-laps etc. I will have a think about it.
Hi Ian, first at all congrats for the wonderful app!
In the last few runs I have noticed that the two avg pace metrics displayed in the app are different.
Nothing problematic but I'm wondering why, can it be the stryd pod?
In the last few runs I have noticed that the two avg pace metrics displayed in the app are different.
Nothing problematic but I'm wondering why, can it be the stryd pod?
I have seen this recently and should know the answer but can't remember so please could you send the wkt file for this workout to info@workoutdoors.net and I will take a look. To do this tap the Export button 3 times quickly.
Glad you like the app!
Loving it. Im using wod since 2020, hundreds of activities. Wod was really a game changer. Apple should promote the app in some of the nexts events!
Is anyone else seeing dark colors occasionally in the maps? 2 weeks ago I downloaded offline maps for our campground and 50% of the walks had this problem. I'm also seeing this often with maps that aren't downloaded on walks and hikes. I've cleared my watch map cache but that doesn't help.
I just had it happen on this hike. Weird thing is after my workout was done, I went into map-only mode and everything was fine. I have all of my maps set to the default settings, so they should be light. I'm using Thunderforest maps.
I just had it happen on this hike. Weird thing is after my workout was done, I went into map-only mode and everything was fine. I have all of my maps set to the default settings, so they should be light. I'm using Thunderforest maps.
That is odd. I have seen it before but very rarely. Does it go away if you zoom out and in again?
There isn't an official beta at the moment. There is a beta containing some bug fixes that I have ready for anyone who really needs it, but it is untested and potentially unstable. If you still want to try that then please email info@workoutdoors.net
Thanks. I may take you up on that if and when I add that functionality. I think that it is stored as RR intervals, which the app currently doesn't store, so it would be a reasonable amount of work to implement.
Unfortunately HRV doesn't seem very popular so allowing it to be exported is well down my to-do list. Hardly anyone had asked for it when I added it, which is why I just did a simple implementation that doesn't require much storage but allows it to be analysed in the WOD iPhone app. Sorry about that.
Once during a hike recently the entire map went into a dark mode. I fiddled around with the map a little, perhaps including zooming in and out, and the map changed back to the normal light mode. I have only seen that the one time.
A couple of people have mentioned that. I couldn’t reproduce it but have found and fixed what may have caused it.
This fix is in the bug-fix beta if you want to try it?
Have this too. Happened after a force quit of WOD or a restart of my AW.
Only on the first run, after that the breadcrumb trail was back.