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Apps WorkOutDoors: New workout features
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Someone else mentioned this today so I will take a look. In the meantime please use the Mapbox maps instead.
Also, where are you seeing this, in case it is location-specific?
Sounds an interesting feature. If more people request it then I may add it.
To give yourself a little more exposure, I wonder if the upload to Strava might include a reference to the source being your wonderful app on Apple Watch? (There must be a place for this, as Garmins, Polars and others do it.)
I have tried to do this a few times over the years but never found a way to store the app’s name in the workout file (of any type) such that Strava will display it. Sorry about that. Hopefully I will work it out one day.
I’m not sure that doc is 100% accurate as I can’t see Apple Watch in the ANT database (for FIT format), but Strava accepts it when sent the FIT file from a normal Apple Watch workout (my old activities actually say “Apple Watch Series 5”). Interestingly, there are some Apple apps in the ANT database…
Excellent job implementing Stryd Power support. I’m a cold weather runner and with the heat of the summer, I tend do to do a fair amount of indoor runs on the treadmill. I’ve found that the RunCline app can be set as a pace, distance, HR, and run power source for WOD. I use RunCline to sync with my treadmill (Life Fitness T5) and compensate/adjust running power based on the treadmill’s incline. This setup works perfectly with WOD.
Regarding power adjustments for treadmills & treadmill workouts... In the future, would it be possible to add the ability to adjust power within WOD by manually setting treadmill incline? Or setup workouts with pre-set treadmill inclines to automatically adjust running power?
Thanks again for creating a great app!
Regarding power adjustments for treadmills & treadmill workouts... In the future, would it be possible to add the ability to adjust power within WOD by manually setting treadmill incline? Or setup workouts with pre-set treadmill inclines to automatically adjust running power?
Thanks again for creating a great app!
Does the exported FIT file include the name of the activity within it (the name that you can change prior to export)? I import the file into other apps and wondered if naming the activity beforehand made any difference other than changing the file name?
Glad that you like the app. It's good to hear that it is playing well with other Bluetooth apps.
No-one has ever asked about that so it isn't something I have looked into. If it is requested enough then I will definitely investigate but only if there is a non-subjective algorithm for adjusting power based on incline.
The workout name is used for the filename but is not included inside the FIT file data.
I'm not sure if this is the right place to do feature requests, I'm using TrainAsOne, and I love their integration with Garmin and I would love if you are able to integrate WorkOutDoors with them.
Anyway thanks for your awesome app, it is almost like having the garmin ecosystem but on apple watch, I'm in big love with the interval workouts!
Anyway thanks for your awesome app, it is almost like having the garmin ecosystem but on apple watch, I'm in big love with the interval workouts!
I tried to export a hiking workout to Strava today, but I’m a bit disappointed…
1. The stats that show up in Strava are inaccurate:
- AOD hiking duration = 1:17:07 vs Strava 1:08:19
- AOD elevation gain = 634m vs Strava 597m
- AOD avg bpm = 154 vs Strava 155 (this one is OK)
- distance was close enough too (3.43km vs 3.42km)
But why is the duration and elevation gain so much off??
EDIT: it seems that Strava will only display the moving time unless you tap on the workout for extra details which will show the elapsed time, which is closer to the real duration. By displaying only the moving time is basically cheating, as it doesn’t count the water stops (when you don’t pause the workout).
2. Not happy that after export it will create a duplicate activity with Strava in the iPhone Fitness app, messing up my daily activity count… It seems that at least you can manually delete that duplicate Strava activity but not sure if it actually deletes all of the traces of its duplicate data from the Fitness/Health app? Hope so.
Is deleting it manually the only way to do it?
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On an unrelated note: why does AOD not support dots in the “workout name” field?
1. The stats that show up in Strava are inaccurate:
- AOD hiking duration = 1:17:07 vs Strava 1:08:19
- AOD elevation gain = 634m vs Strava 597m
- AOD avg bpm = 154 vs Strava 155 (this one is OK)
- distance was close enough too (3.43km vs 3.42km)
But why is the duration and elevation gain so much off??
EDIT: it seems that Strava will only display the moving time unless you tap on the workout for extra details which will show the elapsed time, which is closer to the real duration. By displaying only the moving time is basically cheating, as it doesn’t count the water stops (when you don’t pause the workout).
2. Not happy that after export it will create a duplicate activity with Strava in the iPhone Fitness app, messing up my daily activity count… It seems that at least you can manually delete that duplicate Strava activity but not sure if it actually deletes all of the traces of its duplicate data from the Fitness/Health app? Hope so.
Is deleting it manually the only way to do it?
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On an unrelated note: why does AOD not support dots in the “workout name” field?
Sorry that you are unhappy with the app. The reason for the time difference is, as you say, because Strava defaults to showing the moving time. This annoys a lot of people but unfortunately there isn't anything the app can do about it. You can switch on auto-pause in WOD but the results will probably not match Strava because every algorithm is different.
The difference in elevation gain is because every system uses a different smoothing algorithm to calculate the ascent. If an app used every change in elevation then it would read far too high, so it smooths the values. My bet is that if you loaded the same file into a different system such as Garmin Connect then you would see a third different estimate.
The reason for the Strava duplicates depends on your set up and is again out of the control of WOD. Something is detecting a workout being created in Apple's Health system and automatically sending it to Strava. It could even be Strava's own app if that is configured to do so.
Dots are not supported because the workout name is actually part of the name of the file stored, so it does not support characters that cannot be a part of file names. I may change this in the future but it is not high on my list.
Importing of interval schedules is on my to-do list, currently behind the always on display and turn-by-turn in terms of big features. Unfortunately they may take a while. I also plan to add the new power and running dynamics in watchOS 9 when that is released.
Glad you like the app!
I assume that Strava is using the file name because the app does not store the workout name in the file.
I noticed something weird as of late (I think possibly after the new update) and was wondering if it was a known bug/issue? Basically I have voice alerts every 1km giving paces, times and heart rates for prev laps. During the announcements, the music volume decreases but it never comes back up again until after the full workout activity is completed. I'm using an Apple Watch series 6 and the default music app
It's not a major issue since I can turn up the volume after the first km but it does make the alerts harder to hear since it no longer turns the music back down
It's not a major issue since I can turn up the volume after the first km but it does make the alerts harder to hear since it no longer turns the music back down
This is a watchOS issue that is usually fixed by rebooting the watch. The app just asks watchOS to speak a phrase and tells it how to interact with any other audio and watchOS does the rest. It doesn't tell it anything different for the first phrase than for any other but some people find that the volume stays low. Unfortunately there isn't anything the app can do about it. Sorry. Hopefully Apple have fixed it in watchOS 9.
Hi Ian,
Is it possible to use Siri's voice to announce the distance (every 1km completed) instead of the default voice (it sounded so robotic) from the watch? Thanks
Is it possible to use Siri's voice to announce the distance (every 1km completed) instead of the default voice (it sounded so robotic) from the watch? Thanks
The app asks Siri to speak the alerts so in theory it is a Siri voice. However you can change the accent in the voice settings if that helps?Hi Ian,
Is it possible to use Siri's voice to announce the distance (every 1km completed) instead of the default voice (it sounded so robotic) from the watch? Thanks