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Apps WorkOutDoors: New workout features
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Maybe you could get along with this website somehow:
Mapy.cz is moving to Mapy.com
The Mapy.cz service is growing into a new portal, Mapy.com. It offers detailed search on maps of the entire world. It displays hiking trails, cycling paths, detailed maps of all cities and towns, and allows for route planning.
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These maps are amazing. On the iPhone, they allow you to download entire countries/continents offline, routing works on these downloaded maps without an Internet connection, and the maps themselves are one of the most accurate I have seen (mainly in terms of trails and off-road paths, e.g. as one of the few, or even the only ones, they mark the trails in the mountains with the appropriate colors). And it's all free. These have been my maps choice for a long time, regardless of whether I have Suunto, Garmin or AWP on my hand. Unfortunately, they require the use of an iPhone...
As far as I know, developers have been asked several times about the AW app, but it seems that nothing like this will ever happen
PS - I highly recommend checking out this iPhone app to all hiking (and not only) folks
Komoot offers Routing for developers for free. Let‘s try it 😊
I know you are worried because, users have to register to Komoot but where is the problem?
Komoot is the most used navigation solution in German-speaking countries.
Maybe you get there with relatively little effort quickly some navigation functions and turn-by-turn
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But AFAIK it is paid for users who want to use it offline.
So one buys WOD, pays extra for navi and then has to pay for komoot offline
I don't think Komoot offer ability for apps to create routes on the device when offline. They offer the ability to create routes when online which can then be used when offline, but you can't create routes when offline.Komoot offers Routing for developers for free. Let‘s try it 😊
I know you are worried because, users have to register to Komoot but where is the problem?
Komoot is the most used navigation solution in German-speaking countries.
Maybe you get there with relatively little effort quickly some navigation functions and turn-by-turn
Komoot for your business | komoot.business
Give your customers unforgettable outdoor experiences with the Sponsored Collections and become a community expert with komoot.business! Learn more!
Connect your smartwatch, GPS computer or e-bike with komoot connect.
Connect your smartwatch, GPS computer or e-bike with komoot connect.
I plan to offer the ability to give turn-by-turn directions for GPX routes created by Komoot (or other systems) which contain the navigation instructions. But that is different from allowing the user to create routes in the app, especially when offline.
The app uses Apple's calibrated distance estimates, so you may need to calibrate the watch as described here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204516.
However I hear mixed results of how accurate the distance estimates are, even after calibrating. Some people prefer to use the Stryd footpod instead: https://www.stryd.com
I would say a treadmill.
I ran several times with AWU on the treadmill and I observed exactly the same as in the case of my previous watches - it is quite accurate in a narrow range (for Suunto it was about 5:30-6:30 min/km) and speaking quite accurate I mean 5-10%.
Slower and the distance will be greatly overestimated, faster and will be underestimated.
Initial observations show that the same is true of AWU.
I don't care too much about it, I'm more interested in heart rate anyway, and I accepted that the distance is about +/- 10%.
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Whenever I do treadmill runs, my reference is the distance, the treadmill displays. So I calibrated my footpods to match the distance of the treadmill.
At the end of the day, the "distance" is more or less an artificial number as the treadmill itself moves exactly 0 cm ;-).
I ran on the treadmill last week and used the WOD indoor run workout with default settings and my distance was shorter than the treadmill. It seemed to show the first mile as .2 miles short but then it stayed there and I finished the run about .2 shorter than the treadmill showed. The pace was also off. Not too worried about it as I don't do treadmill runs often. It was just cold out and I was out of town and ill-equipped to run outside.
Is there a way to run with both WOD and the default Apple workout running? What about with 2 watches? I didn't think you could have more than one active watch at a time so probably not.
I assume the only way to refine the calibration is to do a few runs with the apple workout running and then return to using WOD or alternate occasionally?
I assume the only way to refine the calibration is to do a few runs with the apple workout running and then return to using WOD or alternate occasionally?
I haven't heard of that but it may have been calibrating in some way during the first mile. Maybe looking at the accelerometer data to compare your running style indoors with outdoors, before adjusting its estimates accordingly.
However that is a complete guess because Apple understandably don't reveal that sort of detail, not least because their algorithm probably changes over time.
I don't know for sure that calibration only happens with Apple's Workout app, but they only mention their app on their website: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204516. It could be that any app that uses their workout system would work (including WOD) but it's hard for a user to be sure whether an app uses that or not, which may be why they only mention their app.
You definitely can't have two apps both running workouts at the same time on the same watch, but it may be possible with 2 watches if the calibration is stored in the iPhone. However it's the same problem as using a different app: it's impossible to know if it would work.
To be honest I suspect there is a good chance that calibration works with WOD, but I don't know for sure, so it's best to calibrate with Apple's Workout app.
I meant that Apple's algorithm for distance estimates may be looking at the accelerometer data. Your running style on a treadmill is probably different from that when outdoors, so their algorithm may be trying to look for differences and then use them to calibrate the distance estimates. For example it may be possible to use the differences in the accelerometer data to determine if your stride length is different on a treadmill, and it then adjusts the distance estimates accordingly.
Again, this is complete speculation on my part. I am just trying to guess why the first mile was out and the rest were not, and some calibration early in the workout seems a possibility (even if that calibration doesn't use the accelerometers).
I assume one configures this by going to Shortcuts in WOD's app and set "Both Side Buttons" to End workout. Correct?
On an AW8, Both Side Buttons = crown and button on edge of lower right side?
I don't think it is available to 3rd party apps but I must admit that I haven't trawled through the APIs for 9.2 so it may be.
That is correct. The ability to control what happens when both side buttons have been pressed has been in the app for years, but the introduction of the Ultra means I have had to rename it to be "Crown + Side Button" in the next version (which also has "Action Button" and "Action + Side Button").
I have the following issue: When running with the original Stryd app and WorkOutDoors and using the same calibration factor in both Apps I have a completely different result. I need in WorkOutDoors a different calibration factor. What I am doing wrong?
Are you running both WOD and Stryd at the same time? That can cause strange problems because watchOS does not allow two apps to run a workout at the same time.
If that doesn't explain it then please send the wkt file for the workout to info@workoutdoors.net and I will take a look. To do this tap the Export button 3 times quickly.