I will see how possible that is. It may be a case of switching off updates when the wrist is lowered rather than completely switching off AOD, but we will see.
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Apps WorkOutDoors: New workout features
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Here is a screenshot from strava. My steps got doubled, and my wife's step count is correct. She used her garmin watch.
This happened to me once before and it was two apps, sending the same data to Strava and Strava merging them together on the server side I guess. It seems to me like you’ve got something like that going on.
I think this is a bug in Strava. For most of my workouts Strava shows an elevation gain, but I went back through my workouts and found a 2 minute walk test for which it showed steps (possibly because there was no elevation gain). For this workout Strava also showed a much larger steps value than WOD (194 vs 79 in this case).
So I decided to load exactly the same FIT file into Garmin Connect and that matched WOD, so I don't know where Strava is getting its numbers from. They do seem to like ignoring the data in files sent to them and then recalculating metrics themselves, but I haven't heard of them doing it for steps before.
Guys can I ask. Using WorkOutDoors my GPS tracks are all over the place as shown in pic 1. Pic 2 native app and it’s much more accurate. Any ideas why?
Apple's native Workout app smooths the GPS trails that it stores in the Health system. However it does this after a workout, whereas WOD uses the raw position data provided to it during the workout.
It makes no difference to the metrics because Apple's app uses the pedometer for that (and so does WOD by default). Even when WOD uses GPS for distances it does some smoothing, but specifically in a way to get an accurate distance rather than for cosmetic reasons.
Apple have been doing this for years. Initially it was very poor, with corners being cut etc, but has improved a lot over time. So it is a very difficult thing to do well and I have no plans to try to implement it myself. If they make the smoothed route available to third party apps then I may add it to some visual aspects of the app in the future, but probably only for cosmetic reasons.
I imagine Garmin etc do the same thing. GPS signals are not perfectly accurate. They are usually out by a metre or two (depending on the watch model) even with a good signal, and that error varies from point to point so they appear to "wiggle" around. They do not show as a straight line even when you are travelling in a straight line.
So when you are looking live then you have less confidence about whether the latest location is correct than when you look back at that location. This is because the offset from a straight line may be because the user has just started to change direction. However when you look back at that location in the context of knowing the following location then you could see that it was halfway between the point before and the point after and can be reasonably confident that they were moving in a straight line at that point. So you can smooth out the wiggle.
I am seeing the same thing. I have to go to the WOD on the phone and manually upload to Strava.
Have you maybe reinstalled the watch app but not resent the settings?
Try going to the Export Options settings and enabling the Automatic Strava Upload. If it is already enabled then disable it and then re-enable it.
At long last, I have finally found the smoking gun for my elevated heart rate numbers.
The situation is: I use WOD to connect to my Wahoo sensor. I do absolutely nothing with Apple Workout on my watch, but apparently it still records regular heart rates during the workout. Absolutely No idea why Apple Watch is consistently recording a heart rate in the 180s at the exact same moment that WOD is recording 140 from the Wahoo.
In any case, now that I know what the problem is ... can I assume that there's no way around it? I guess I need to connect my wahoo to Apple Watch so that it won't use the sensors on the watch itself. Which is unfortunate because it's so much more convenient to connect via WOD.
Does anyone have any ideas here? Or can I just assumed that I am out of luck and need to stop using WOD to connect to my heart sensor.
The situation is: I use WOD to connect to my Wahoo sensor. I do absolutely nothing with Apple Workout on my watch, but apparently it still records regular heart rates during the workout. Absolutely No idea why Apple Watch is consistently recording a heart rate in the 180s at the exact same moment that WOD is recording 140 from the Wahoo.
In any case, now that I know what the problem is ... can I assume that there's no way around it? I guess I need to connect my wahoo to Apple Watch so that it won't use the sensors on the watch itself. Which is unfortunate because it's so much more convenient to connect via WOD.
Does anyone have any ideas here? Or can I just assumed that I am out of luck and need to stop using WOD to connect to my heart sensor.
During the workout trigger a manual interval at point A and B. You must set a command gesture first via settings, commands, new interval to asign the manual interval to buttons or screen tap.
Afterwards look at the intervals to see the duration (and much more info on the intervals).
Hmmm, I’m seeing the same.. in a run where I used a Polar HR I still notice a 5s Apple watch measure which is 30-40 beats higher than the Polar 🤔
Also had it, but in winter I once wore my watch above my clothes and that fixed it. Maybe a bodge-fix to tape over the sensor 🙈
I have just checked and it does look like Apple is storing the heart readings in the Health system at a high frequency even when the app has requested not to receive them. I guess something has changed in watchOS because that wasn't the case in the past. Previously it would keep taking readings but at the lower frequency that it uses throughout the day.
Unfortunately I don't think there is anything the app can do. WOD tells watchOS that it does not want the readings (and this is recorded in the WOD log) but it looks like watchOS takes the readings anyway and stores them in the Health system. It just doesn't send them to the app because the app has requested not to receive them.
For most people this is not a problem but if something extracts the data out of the Health system and does not distinguish between readings from the watch or WOD (and it would be perfectly reasonable not to distinguish them) then you could see inconsistencies if one of the sensors is struggling.
The solution is to connect the HRM via watchOS instead of the app.
Did changing the automatic upload setting fix it? Basically changing anything to do with Strava so that the Strava settings are re-sent to the watch.