Yes, great news. Although I would also understand if there is no export mechanism except for Apple Health and have a distribution workflow with RunGap or HealthFit. As long as all data is preserved when stored in Apple Health. Handing over a FIT to RunGap would also be a very good solution IMHO.
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Apps WorkOutDoors: New workout features
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Every workout created in the app is automatically sent to Apple Health, so they can always be read by HealthFit or RunGap and exported to whatever system.
I added the manual exporting of GPX and TCX files for users who do not have those apps but want to use third party analysis tools. I never planned to add any direct connections from the app but I had more requests for exporting to Strava than all the other systems put together, so I figured it was worth the effort. If some other system becomes just as pre-eminent in the future then I will probably connect directly to that too.
I may add FIT files in the future, to add to the current GPX and TCX file options, although HealthFit is already great at creating FIT files and sending them on.
I am no expert in this but I always thought that FIT files are the ones that can carry the most information and that information is lost from FIT to TCX to GPX. No idea what Apple Health can carry or not.
You are the expert here.
You are the expert here.
WorkOutDoors does store intervals in Apple Health (as what Apple call "Segments") but not many apps seem to display them. For example even Apple's Health and Activity apps do not explicitly display them in any useful way, but you can see them in the Health app if you search through the events associated with a workout.
I am far from an expert, especially with FIT, of which I have no experience. However I do get the impression that it is more comprehensive than TCX, which is better than GPX (which was designed for routes rather than workouts).
Apple Health is ok, but missing some important elements. For instance there is no capability to store power data, which seems a very big omission. They don't seem to be improving it much recently either, which is worrying. I was hoping for some workout improvements in iOS 13 and watchOS 6, but there was nothing new at all this year. Hopefully that was just a one-off though.
OMouyau
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Hi there 🙂 Have been a user of your app for nearly 2y I think, love it. Quick question. Due to cold (silly me, as I left my wrist exposed, instead of covering the watch), my AW4 shutdown during a run. I stop and managed to restarted it, and run the remain of the run on the 10% battery left.
The fact that the battery went from about 80% down to 10% and shutdown within minutes is a separate issue non related.
But my question is about a way to recover the file that was written while I was running. I'm used to Garmin or other electronic device, after you reboot, the activity is just right there and you can just resume, or the file is in the list of activity and you can just find it.
Is there such a thing with workoutdoor ? I CAN SEE my missing part of the run has been added to apple health ...
Oli
Thanks
The fact that the battery went from about 80% down to 10% and shutdown within minutes is a separate issue non related.
But my question is about a way to recover the file that was written while I was running. I'm used to Garmin or other electronic device, after you reboot, the activity is just right there and you can just resume, or the file is in the list of activity and you can just find it.
Is there such a thing with workoutdoor ? I CAN SEE my missing part of the run has been added to apple health ...
Oli
Thanks
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Thanks for using the app for so long. WorkOutDoors does not persist activities if the watch runs out of battery. Sorry about that. As you have noticed, watchOS will persist the workout, so you can always see the information there.
I will add persistence in the future, probably based on using the watchOS persistence, but part of the reason I haven't is because watchOS partially does it already.
Another newbie question... In Settings->Commands there are two options: Force Menu Upper/Lower.
May sound stupid but how are they triggered?
May sound stupid but how are they triggered?
Sorry - the names are a bit unclear. These shortcuts control the menu options that are shown when you press the screen hard. There are 4 options. The two right hard options (Settings and End) are fixed but you can control what is shown in the left hand options (upper and lower).
By default they allow you to show the Info screen during a workout (as shown at the end of a workout) and to Pause/Resume. However you may want to make them show the Now Playing screen, or start a new lap, or whatever else you want.
So follow on question: as I sometimes have difficulty pressing both buttons at once for pausing and resuming, what is a best practice for doing pause/resume in WOD? Maybe others can share their tips...
rbart
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rbart
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It's Apple built-in API to detect pause.
WOD has also an homemade auto-pause.
I always use Apple one ...
WOD has also an homemade auto-pause.
I always use Apple one ...
FunkyMagicUK
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Maybe what needs answering first is WHY you need pause/resume in the first place?
What do you actually need/want??
When I am crossing roads, I do not want the waiting time being recorded in my runs. Depending on the traffic this can be from seconds to 1-2 minutes.
Well, on my Garmins, I had one button which was "Start/Stop". Did work perfect, never had to think where it is or if it had paused/resumed as both was clear from the reaction of the watch. It pinged and vibrated and the screen got a red surrounding on pause and a green (disappearing) surrounding on resume.
FunkyMagicUK
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Ah I remember that before my 235 died!
What might work for you if you dont want to turn autopause on is to configure double or triple tap to be pause/resume?
What I do which is vaguely similar is config double tap as “next interval”. I have an interval plan which is just 1000x repeats of ”run” and “rest”...
Its not quite the same, as during my run, I only get to see the time and distance of the current run interval, rather than the total of all my run time with all the rest intervals removed. But it works for me as I generally want to see “current interval pace”. This gives a nice breakdown you can click through the interval segments on the phone app and analyse the moving bits individually.
Another advantage of this approach is on the “rest” interval you can build a custom screen which is displaying for example some data from the previous interval such as previous interval pace time and distance, plus maybe your current heart rate or something.
Then I just let Strava do it’s magic with its interpretation of my moving time so I see the overall moving average pace.
Mostly when doing a social group run I just ignore my watch to be honest, but if I decide I want to analyse afterwards, even if I HAVENT use an interval profile and just started a regular open running session, then double tapping to create a new interval still works and it’s usually easy when looking at the analysis for see the intervals I tagged as not moving.
You could use laps instead of intervals, but I find it easier to keep the Autolap ticking away on 1km cycles independent of the manual intervals.
I have a question for CFC, on your phone when you are picking screens (for walking) and one of the layouts is Graphs and I choose trail map..I do understand it creates a plot of my position as I am walking and if I want to follow the same path back I can see it on the display but what if I deliberately to another path back will I get some sort of warning that I am off course? I do know that Garmin has such a feature.....thanks