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WWDC = New iPad Pro?
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Point taken. I’d be fine if that’s the case but would still not want Face ID unless that tech is improved to near 180 degree field of view. For some of us there’s more to our distaste of the bezeless trend than just how devices are held.
^^^ this. Also no secret that Apple has been clamping down on leaks. Ming Chuo was reliable with supply chain info in the past, he’s not in this business anymore.
Somehow i keep thinking back to school Is a huge motivation to release something new. Lose a kid going to college and he/she will moRe than likely keep the device for 4 years before upgrading. There’s precedence for a June announcement and a delayed August release. Don’t remember where (Bloomberg?) bUt there was a rumor that new IPP would come out a little more than a year after the old ones, and it specifically said Q3, which starts in August just in time for uni. This way it doesn’t steal the thunder from the iphones.
And anyway what’s so exciting about the iPhones this year? We have the X. Ok there’s an X+. Big deal. It’s just a larger version and there’s nothing game changing About that 6.1 LCD thing either.
An iPad X would be a game changer. It’s been quite a while since the basic look has stayed the same.
The last "templating" generation began with the original iPad mini – as of now the entire iPad line has adopted the major design and engineering cues it introduced.
I think Tim was sincere enough about the idea that the iPhone X was their model for the mobile technology of "the next decade" that I suspect its design and engineering cues will be similarly adopted by iOS devices. I'm not certain that means a dramatically new iPad Pro at WWDC, but I was at least confident enough to sell my original iPad Pro a little while ago. I'm pretty confident they'll announce such an update this year if not then.
I think Tim was sincere enough about the idea that the iPhone X was their model for the mobile technology of "the next decade" that I suspect its design and engineering cues will be similarly adopted by iOS devices. I'm not certain that means a dramatically new iPad Pro at WWDC, but I was at least confident enough to sell my original iPad Pro a little while ago. I'm pretty confident they'll announce such an update this year if not then.
You know what I mean, right? It's maybe a more specific application of "applying traits to hardware." Once around 2008, Steve did a keynote where he specifically espoused the recyclability of aluminum and glass to introduce the then-latest-and-greatest iMac, which was made mostly out of those materials for the first time – a time when all iMacs and several configurations of MacBook had largely been housed in plastic. A few years later, almost every Apple device containing a processor was made mostly of aluminum and glass.
The iPad mini specifically rearranged the internal components, introduced a new machined shape and button configuration – things which were next adopted by the iPad Air, followed by the iPad Air 2, followed by the iPad Pro, followed by what they now call the "iPad." One device largely serves as a template for future devices, is what I was alluding to.
The iPad mini specifically rearranged the internal components, introduced a new machined shape and button configuration – things which were next adopted by the iPad Air, followed by the iPad Air 2, followed by the iPad Pro, followed by what they now call the "iPad." One device largely serves as a template for future devices, is what I was alluding to.
Ah got it! Right. And you’re correct, the iPhone X will be the template of all iOS devices going forward.
But in offering 3 sizes of ipad Apple gives the consumer choice, be it based on spec or price. And I've heard/read of a some people buying both the pro sizes. Don't Apple have an interest in continuing multiple sizes?
Baby, bath water, etc... but I’m with you here. FaceID has no appeal to me. Not to mention the notch, which is plain awful.
I'm not trying to be snarky here but a genuine question. Have you actually used FaceId?
Hah, no worries. snark would be well-deserved in this case. ;-) No, I haven’t used Face ID. As I mentioned, it simply has no appeal to me. I use a six digit passcode, and from what I hear it takes days for a special device to crack that... I just don’t care that much to make it worth an ugly black notch on the screen.
Could I get used to it, sure. But I would rather not be forced to accept something [the notch] I consider to be poor design.
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The notch is up for debate. Sure. Honestly, you don’t really notice it after a while and now I kinda like it. My personal devil horns.
Faceid, keep an open mind. Truly a game changer. My workflow has become so fluid. You just don’t think about unlocking or passwords anymore. Pick up and use. I love the face that notification are hidden on the main screen unless I look at it.
All this is on the X. Utility on the iPad I can’t speak to. I don’t want to make this a faceid or not thread, plenty of them around, but it’s really not as bad as you may think it is. Something that has to be used to be appreciated.
I’ll head off one objection before it comes and that’s my last word on faceid here. You can’t open the phone when it’s laying flat on the side of your desk. Touch let you do that sure. But here’s the deal. I can tap on the screen and read my notifications. If there’s something that needs my attention I’d need to pick it up anyway, right? CAnt read an email from that angle. Once I pick it up it’s unlocked.
Seriously doubt the iPad will have a notch. It’ll always have some sort of bezel and the sensors can fit there.
But that right there is why I’m not wild about the idea of Face ID on the iPad, at least if it’s implemented the same as on the iPhone. I use my iPad day in and day out at my office. I use it as a notebook, to check emails (leaving my other monitors free), and to listen to music. When I have it propped up in my lap to write notes in a meeting, Face ID would be fine. But when I have it laying flat or a table or in the low stand position with a Smart Cover (which is at least 50% of the time at work), Face ID would be a major step back from Touch ID. I would have to lean over the iPad screen to get a scan of my face, and my face would have to be at the right distance for it to work. Or I guess I could pick up the iPad, scan my face, and then put it back down. Either would be a step back though. With Touch ID, I don’t have to do anything other than push the home button and I’m in. I think Face ID will need to become much more flexible in terms of the angle and distance your face can be at before it will be an improvement over Touch ID on the iPad.
All that being said, I do agree that Face ID is wonderful when it works as designed. I just pick up my iPhone and swipe to open. By the time I’ve finished swiping, Face ID has finished scanning my face and it goes right to the home screen in one fluid action. I’m just not convinced that experience will translate as well to the iPad with the current iteration of Face ID.
Excellent points and I agree. We’ll have to wait and see how they implement it on the iPad. I can’t imagije they wouldn’t have flowcharted typical use cases like the ones you’ve described.
I’ve seen rumors of two sensors , vertical and horizontal, I gues the range and angle will be key.
As someone who just took delivery of a Tesla Model 3, I reject your analogy!
Yes, they can improve edge-touch rejection system but it isn't going to make my fingers/thumb/hand see through. I guess some (most?) people just don't hold their iPad like do (one handed). Also studies have shown that bezels help reduce eye strain by providing an eye buffer to any background activity.
I guess I’m just a little confused by the people that will upgrade strictly for a bezeless display. I can understand why you’d want to maximize the phones display/size ratio but with a screen already as big as the 10.5 it seems that one would be purely wasting money upgrading to one with slightly less bezels. That being said I think it would be a really nice looking iPad don’t get me wrong but with how amazing the 10.5 currently is it seems as if money could be better spent. (I guess you could say that about all products though) Maybe I’m just getting older and hate to see my dollars go to something like that. All that being said I honestly think Face ID is a step back. I have an iPhone X and think that the Face ID makes getting into the phone slower. If they opt for this tech on the new iPads ill keep my 10.5 for as long as possible.
10.5 may be big enough for a tablet, it's a bit to small as a 'laptop replacement' for proper work. (for me anyway). 12.9 is great as a laptop, but too unwieldy in tablet mode .. YMMV
This IS Apple we're talking about mate. WHy push the basic ipad and pencil (more suited to HS anyway I think) if they can push a IPP with NEW pencil and NEW smart keyboard for an extra 600 bucks.
This IS Apple we're talking about mate. WHy push the basic ipad and pencil (more suited to HS anyway I think) if they can push a IPP with NEW pencil and NEW smart keyboard for an extra 600 bucks.
Yes but as it's looking less likely for an ipad pro refresh just yet and they have the space covered to sell to students with current line up.
Evolcre- I came from a 12.9 and you are right anything besides landscape is so difficult to do on there.
If they do make an X type iPad it will probably carry a X phone type price. Already pushing 1200 for a 256 pro as it is (256 lte) I cant imagine spending 14/1600 for an iPad. They’d better give it something more than less bezels and Face ID or that’s an amazing waste for a 10.5 owner to upgrade to. To each their own I guess.
If they do make an X type iPad it will probably carry a X phone type price. Already pushing 1200 for a 256 pro as it is (256 lte) I cant imagine spending 14/1600 for an iPad. They’d better give it something more than less bezels and Face ID or that’s an amazing waste for a 10.5 owner to upgrade to. To each their own I guess.
Agreed. That's 1200 PLUS AC+ PLUS pencil+ KB + some kind of a sleeve. I think it's sitting at 1450 in my cart with CA tax and man, that's pretty damn steep. We're seriously in mid to high end laptop territory here and you're right, they better offer something incredible in either hardware or software changes to make it compete with a laptop.
If it's more than current prices I may skip the whole idea, keep my ThinkPad for real work and pick up a last gen 10.5 as a tablet, journal and amateur video making machine. Let's see how this goes.
Look I’m all for a better screen to body ratio on the 12.9” iPad Pro but by God DONT MAKE IT THINNER.
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Let’s see what WWDC brings but your backup plan is pretty sound too
