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Me too, when you read the review DxO is pretty harsh on the screen brightness and states numerous times the problems everyone is having here, yet the final score is 1 point being the top placed phone display the Note 20 Ultra lol
Is this screen thing a major problem
I was just about to purchase an iPhone 12 pro Max
 
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Okay, my apologies to you if you aren’t stating it’s a non-issue, there are people here that are. However, in that example you’re giving, why are you making the case that every iPhone will be less white than its predecessor? That doesn’t make sense when you factor in the strive that companies are no doubt making in order to produce more colour accurate screens. Are you perhaps trying to say that each iPhone display is becoming less blue each year? More blue doesn’t equate to more white, as I know d65 white is warmer than what people expect. It doesn’t follow that iPhones can keep becoming less and less blue each year as at some point, you will pass the point where your colours start to become less accurate in the RGB grey balance and as a result of that, to where your whites are no longer white, which is a key example of the bad displays we’ve seen this year.

At the same time, who’s to say it isn’t a widespread issue when we don’t know whether the issue is present for what percentage of 12 users and if they notice it or care about it? I think that’s important to consider, the vast majority of people with this issue probably won’t even be here posting about it.

Sorry, I didn't communicate that very well. I didn't mean each year's iteration of iPhones are less white than the year before. I meant this year's (the entire 12 line-up) are less white than every iPhone model before this year - i.e. the 12 line is the most "unwhite" line of iPhones ever.
 
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Much improved. It’s a bandaid, but it’s good enough for me. I have a 12 Pro.


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Lol they all have them. Whether it’s a design flaw or not or you notice or not it doesn’t matter, your 12 will have one or more of the following:

- raised blacks
- green/yellow/red tints on min brightness
- gaps for dust around screen
- aggressive True Tone (they all have this , software issue)

it’s up to you to decide whether you deem them issues or flaws - but they definitely occur across the vast majority of them.
Sorry, the majority does not. Not sure how you can ascertain that all iPhones have the problem you describe. I'll let the average person take a look at your posts and decide...
 

DxOmark just posted this yesterday, they mention on how yellow the screens are this year
I posted this about 4 pages ago
 
For those tell us there is no problem: I had 3 iPhones 12 and first and second mini’s screen where horribly yellow, and the third iphone 12 Classic is great.

it’s not my eyes, that was not iphones just a little more yellow, they were very crappy, very yellow tinted and poor quality display.
 
Seriously what is your purpose here? Either you're an Apple employee or a troll.
Why don't you reply to jheeze's great post on the previous page?
Maybe he's trying to add a voice of reason to the pitchfork gang. You could also ask the OP's purpose here when he started this thread at 1:30 am eastern time on launch day. He just couldn't wait to stir the ****. Seems like he's the one with the agenda.
 
Maybe he's trying to add a voice of reason to the pitchfork gang. You could also ask the OP's purpose here when he started this thread at 1:30 am eastern time on launch day. He just couldn't wait to stir the ****. Seems like he's the one with the agenda.
I'm not a big fan of OPs opening post and his style in general, but it turns out he was mostly right.
 
I'm not a big fan of OPs opening post and his style in general, but it turns out he was mostly right.
He was mostly right about what? The fact that there will always be people dissatisfied with something about their phone? That goes without saying. Even if every single post of this 4600 post thread represented an "actual" bad screen, it's still a tiny number compared to the tens of millions of iPhones out there.

I'm not saying there aren't any bad displays, it's just not to the degree and level that is being portrayed here.

Without all of us being in room together and looking at each other's phone, there's really no way to tell what exactly is going on in this thread. Would the people that say the screens are yellow look at the satisfied owner's screens and say they are yellow? Would the satisfied owners look at the yellow screen owners phone and see the same thing? Are some people more particular (picky) about the tone of the display than others? After 2 or three returns, I would move on to something else since what I'm buying isn't living up to my standards.

Every year the new iPhones come out and every year a new crop of complaint threads pop up. If anyone scanned these forums before buying their new iPhone, and believed everything they read, they would buy something else. I put off buying AirPods Pro after reading numerous "problem" threads. I finally bought them and they have been nothing but great.

Look, you've got to be happy with your purchase, but the level of scrutiny that some people do with their phone is sometimes a little out there. The one that really gets me is the people slipping a piece of paper between the display glass and the body in the "gap". Then they scream 'water proof' when that is not even where the screen is attached to the body and has nothing to do with the water resistance.
 
This website did a really nice and thorough review/comparison of the iPhone 12 Pro Max and they repeatedly mention its Yellow tinted display. They have some technical analyses and measurements in here. I highly suggest reading through it


They also discuss how the night filter is overbearing, to the point where it makes it difficult to read, which I agree with. Also note the strong green in the display when tilted - I notice this on mine as well
He was mostly right about what? The fact that there will always be people dissatisfied with something about their phone? That goes without saying. Even if every single post of this 4600 post thread represented an "actual" bad screen, it's still a tiny number compared to the tens of millions of iPhones out there.

I'm not saying there aren't any bad displays, it's just not to the degree and level that is being portrayed here.

Without all of us being in room together and looking at each other's phone, there's really no way to tell what exactly is going on in this thread. Would the people that say the screens are yellow look at the satisfied owner's screens and say they are yellow? Would the satisfied owners look at the yellow screen owners phone and see the same thing? Are some people more particular (picky) about the tone of the display than others? After 2 or three returns, I would move on to something else since what I'm buying isn't living up to my standards.

Every year the new iPhones come out and every year a new crop of complaint threads pop up. If anyone scanned these forums before buying their new iPhone, and believed everything they read, they would buy something else. I put off buying AirPods Pro after reading numerous "problem" threads. I finally bought them and they have been nothing but great.

Look, you've got to be happy with your purchase, but the level of scrutiny that some people do with their phone is sometimes a little out there. The one that really gets me is the people slipping a piece of paper between the display glass and the body in the "gap". Then they scream 'water proof' when that is not even where the screen is attached to the body and has nothing to do with the water resistance.
I would respond with this (see first post) Professionals say screen is yellow and flickers... if you don’t see colours clearly in general then you can’t see the problem. I consider myself a person with terrible hearing but very good colour perception. Not everyone can see it.
And that’s why you can measure calibration... and measurements say that screen is yellow.
 
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He was mostly right about what? The fact that there will always be people dissatisfied with something about their phone? That goes without saying. Even if every single post of this 4600 post thread represented an "actual" bad screen, it's still a tiny number compared to the tens of millions of iPhones out there.
He was right about the fact that most new phones will have a yellow tint compared to previous iPhones. I mean, even if you didn't have an older phone to compare to, you could have just gone to a store and would have notice the difference between models.

Now that professional reviewers even mention the yellow cast, I cannot understand why we have to argue here at all.
 
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The first thing I did when noticing the awfully yellow screen, is to compare it with
my previous iPhone 6s (without TT as the 6s doesn’t have this feature)
iPhone X
Ipad pro 2019

They all had much accurate color Rendering than the 12, and more precisely, the white that are yellow on the 12 screen.

I took pictures of the comparison 6s/12 and iPad/12

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The iPhone 12 yellow screen is showing (on the picture) in a kind of pink, but in reality it’s yellow as a banana

Then I asked a friend, who owns the same iPad and just ordered the same iPhone as I did, to take a picture of his iPad and iPhone 12 side by side, and I did the same
here is the result
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Firstly, nobody can be sure that these issues are a widespread problem in all iPhones or only in a few ones. There is no enough information to claim either way. Secondly, the first batches of any product mass-produced will have problems or issues, and Apple is not an exception to this.

Based on what I have seen so far, there is an inconsistency with the white balance in the 12 series. How do I know this? My first 12 Pro Max was very warm or yellow with washed-out colors compared to my second. My friend's 12 Pro was worst compared with my first one. At Costco, I saw a 12 Pro Max almost identical to my iPhone X in terms of white balance. The screen's clarity and depth were noticeable, not only for me but also for some employees at Costco, who compared my 12 Pro Max with the unit on display.

I also had the opportunity to compare one of my employee's 12 Pro Max, graphite-colored, and his screen was almost identical to my iPhone X. his unit was purchased on launch day first hour. My friend's wife recently got a new 12 Pro Max Gold, and her screen was almost near my iPhone X but not as yellow as my second 12 Pro Max.

The raised black or flickering blacks issue was present on my first 12 Pro Max. The second only exhibited raised blacks when the brightness was set around 10% to 15%. On my friend's iPhone 12 Pro, the raised black, green halo and super greenish grays can be seen even in daylight.

So, what do we have? There is an inconsistency problem with the new iPhones 12 Pro displays for sure, and I highly doubt this is intentional by Apple, even if they intended a more warm color profile for this version. How widespread is this issue? Unknown. Yes, Apple intended to calibrate the display near the D65 standard but looking at professionally calibrated monitors using this standard, those are closer to my iPhone X than my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

Can Apple fix this with an update? I think the raised black can be fixed but not the warmer profile. The discrepancy between iPhones makes it impossible.

There is not enough information to determine a correlation between the serial number and production weeks with good or bad displays. It looks completely random. In my case, I decided to return both 12 Pro Max and get a refund until Apple sort this. I won't pay for an inferior device to my previous one in such an essential component as the display. But I know many people who don't care or won't notice this issue if they have it, making it more difficult to know for sure the ratio between good and bad displays.

So if anyone claims that all iPhones 12 have this issue or that only an insignificant fraction have it, well, both are wrong and biased.

BTW, all my comparisons were with TT, NS, AB, and color filters off.
 
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I need a new phone ASAP as my phone got stolen and I dont know what to do after reading this thread.
The new iPhone 12 Pro Max is £1,000 so I don't want to spend that amount of money on a product that I will have to keep exchanging etc....

So is it better to get the 11 Pro Max then if the 12 Pro Max has screen problems?
 
Today I got my second iPhone 12 PM. 49 week looks worse than mine from week 42. New on the left, old on the right
 

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