I'm pretty sure OP will come back when OP gets a new phone XDThe OP has been missing for over 2 months here in macrumors land. Anyone know if this beetlejuice will return and rear his ugly head?(humor only, moderators)
OP didn't even have any iPhone 12 when he started this thread at 1:28 AM Eastern time on launch day last year. My 12 Mini was perfect and so is my 13 Pro. The unicorn searchers can carry on looking for their perfect phone. I don't think they'll ever find it.I'm pretty sure OP will come back when OP gets a new phone XD
While I agree that there is significant variance within the saI’ve got an M1 iPad Pro which is too blue and an iPhone 13 Pro which has too much yellow / green. Not as bad as last years 12s which were hilarious with the added yellow.
Pulled up the same photo in Lightroom on the 13 pro and iPad. Colours are different hues, eg. blues are turquoise on the iPhone and purple on the iPad.
And then they market it as a professional device for photo and video work, it’s bizarre.
The worst thing is that there’s no real solution for this since you can’t calibrate the screens yourself.
The difference is within the normal variance we saw in the 12 models though.in this video, the difference between 12 Pro Max / 13 Pro Max screen temperature is quite obvious:
The iPhone 13 Pro Max screen looks cooler...
That *is* the solution though, that’s why this continues to be so frustrating. They should just let people be able to calibrate themselvesThe lack of consistency of calibration across these “pro” devices is staggering.
They should all be calibrated to 6500k
I’ve got an M1 iPad Pro which is too blue and an iPhone 13 Pro which has too much yellow / green. Not as bad as last years 12s which were hilarious with the added yellow.
Pulled up the same photo in Lightroom on the 13 pro and iPad. Colours are different hues, eg. blues are turquoise on the iPhone and purple on the iPad.
And then they market it as a professional device for photo and video work, it’s bizarre.
The worst thing is that there’s no real solution for this since you can’t calibrate the screens yourself.
Not an engineer or anything, but iirc this is part of the reason that minimum brightness is so relatively “high” in the first place- the uniformity falls apart after a certain level.I have been using the kindle app on my 13PM, which lets you lower the brightness below the standard low level that you can set in control centre (makes it easier to read in pitch black rooms, like in bed at night). I have noticed that when the display is on these very low brightness levels, it seems warmer in the upper right corner compared to the rest of the display. Is this something that is normal with OLEDs? Not sure if this is within spec and just to be expected. I’m not going to return it or anything, as it’s not noticeable under 99.9% of use cases for the phone. Wouldn’t have even noticed it had I not been using the kindle app specifically!
Is the PM warm, as in to the touch? If the device gets hot it dims the screen as a temperature control method. I almost returned a phone and an iPad as the screens were noticeably dimmer than the devices they were replacing...... only for them both to go back to comparable brightness when they stopped restoring and cooled down.And finally, here’s a comparison of 3 phones:
iphone 13 PM, iPhone 13 pro and iPhone X.
The 13 PM and X look about the same whereas the 13 P looks the brightest.
Turned off auto brightness on every iPhone I've owned, first thing I do, can't stand it.Do you guys suggest turning off Auto Brightness off or on? How do you have yours set up?
Same. It would be nice in theory, but doesn’t work for me in practice. With AB on I have to adjust brightness manually more often than with AB off.Turned off auto brightness on every iPhone I've owned, first thing I do, can't stand it.
As Steve Jobs would say, you’re looking at it wrong 👀📱😂have 3 other Apple devices and a colour accurate external display next to my 13 pro, they all look near identical in terms of colours, and the 13 looks completely different. So if the argument is that this 13 screen is just “properly” calibrated, then I guess it means Apple was lying when it said all the other devices, including a $4000 mbp, were properly calibrated. They are miles apart and no where’s within any “tolerance” if the term colour accuracy has any meaning at all.
OLED fundamentally looks different than LCD, even if calibrated. Nevertheless Apple should add proper calibration controls to the settings app.I have 3 other Apple devices and a colour accurate external display next to my 13 pro, they all look near identical in terms of colours, and the 13 looks completely different. So if the argument is that this 13 screen is just “properly” calibrated, then I guess it means Apple was lying when it said all the other devices, including a $4000 mbp, were properly calibrated. They are miles apart and no where’s within any “tolerance” if the term colour accuracy has any meaning at all.
what I will admit, is that since Apple swapped to oled, each year I’ve looked at the models and they all have looked kinda yellow and gross to my eyes. But from images posted here, it seems there is still some variance within oleds, so maybe it’ll be worth a visit to the store to compare with some other units.
Also worth noting, something similar happened when I got my 3rd gen iPad. It was waaaay off in colour with a pink/green band down the middle. I sat on these forums back then feeling shamed to dare question whether I got a bum unit. Went and traded it and ended up with a great display and device that lasted 5 years. Dunno why it’s contentious that sometimes a unit will be miscoloured, and if it bugs you it’s worth addressing?
I’m convinced it’s more of an OLED problem than anything related to manufacturer. This is part of why user calibration would be so appreciated though!I have 3 other Apple devices and a colour accurate external display next to my 13 pro, they all look near identical in terms of colours, and the 13 looks completely different. So if the argument is that this 13 screen is just “properly” calibrated, then I guess it means Apple was lying when it said all the other devices, including a $4000 mbp, were properly calibrated. They are miles apart and no where’s within any “tolerance” if the term colour accuracy has any meaning at all.
what I will admit, is that since Apple swapped to oled, each year I’ve looked at the models and they all have looked kinda yellow and gross to my eyes. But from images posted here, it seems there is still some variance within oleds, so maybe it’ll be worth a visit to the store to compare with some other units.
Also worth noting, something similar happened when I got my 3rd gen iPad. It was waaaay off in colour with a pink/green band down the middle. I sat on these forums back then feeling shamed to dare question whether I got a bum unit. Went and traded it and ended up with a great display and device that lasted 5 years. Dunno why it’s contentious that sometimes a unit will be miscoloured, and if it bugs you it’s worth addressing?
Are sure you didn’t turn TT off instead of on?Just had an interesting observation this evening. My 13P screen looked extremely warm under late afternoon daylight. I figured I would try (gasp!) True Tone and it actually cooled off the white point significantly and *nailed* the tone. It looks so good, I wish I could just “freeze” the phone at this temperature forever… I guess the takeaway there is that if ambient light is making things unbearably warm, give our old enemy True Tone a shot?
Yep! TT is not usually decreasing warmth of the display, but it was in this lighting condition.Are sure you didn’t turn TT off instead of on?![]()
I have been using the kindle app on my 13PM, which lets you lower the brightness below the standard low level that you can set in control centre (makes it easier to read in pitch black rooms, like in bed at night). I have noticed that when the display is on these very low brightness levels, it seems warmer in the upper right corner compared to the rest of the display. Is this something that is normal with OLEDs? Not sure if this is within spec and just to be expected. I’m not going to return it or anything, as it’s not noticeable under 99.9% of use cases for the phone. Wouldn’t have even noticed it had I not been using the kindle app specifically!
I just did the same with against mrs 12 pm same result. It’s normal.put my 13 pro max next to a 12 pro max on same brightness, 12 pro max definitely brighter. 🤦♂️
My 13 pro max also has a red tint from time to time 🤦♂️
Not sure if I want to play the screen lottery game 🤦♂️ @Limeybastid @TheYayAreaLiving 🤦♂️
keep it or return it?
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