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CTHarrryH

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Struck me that what people said was important to them was announced.
Also there could be dozens more features that weren't in the presentation - that is normal. Let's wait and see
 
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macdaddy43

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So realistically, knowing what we know now:

M1 iPad Pro overkill? iPad Air is looking really solid for me right now. I don't see much advantage between Air and 11" Pro. Limited by software, the A14 looks more than capable for years to come.

Thoughts?
 

kc9hzn

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XCode Cloud isn't any closer to Xcode on the iPad. It's just a cloud-build system, copying what other companies have done - push your code to the repository, it detects the push and builds the app, runs unit tests, emails out any build errors or failed tests to the team and then sends the completed builds to testers.
Continuous Integration and Continuous Deployment makes XCode that much more buzzword friendly. But seriously, there’s a reason why CI and CD are so popular buzzwords, anything that improves the DevOps experience makes developing for iOS that much easier.
 
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LFC2020

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Lol so much for all your get ready to be blown away posts. ?
Yep I’m man enough to admit I was wrong, I’ve learned to except that apple holds off adding new features so they can milk their customers for longer.

Unfortunately android is garbage, so I’m stuck with apple ?‍♂️?
 

Slartibart

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You are the one that brought up these two items (pencil + swift playgrounds)
So: is it different? Are there differences between iOS and iPadOS? Maybe in something I was mentioning as an example, but feel free to compare on a wider, or more granular scale… ?
as discounting the assertion that iPadOS isn't just some tweaked version of iOS...

And by that reasoning bread is a tweaked version of flour…?
 

kc9hzn

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So realistically, knowing what we know now:

M1 iPad Pro overkill? iPad Air is looking really solid for me right now. I don't see much advantage between Air and 11" Pro. Limited by software, the A14 looks more than capable for years to come.

Thoughts?
I’d say it depends on what iPad version you have and what accessories you want. Apple Pencil 2 and Magic Keyboard are exclusive to the iPad Pro IIRC. If you’ve got an A14 based iPad, sure, it’ll last you several years. The iPad upgrade cycle tends to be a four to five year cycle for most people. That said, you’ll probably be able to make use of the hardware features of the M1 iPad Pro (it’s got LIDAR, right? And support for the video centering features in FaceTime and other video apps?) sooner than that, I’d imagine. But if you’ve got anything before an A14 iPad (even one with an A12X), the M1 is definitely a solid upgrade. I don’t get why people are evaluating buying a new iPad if they’ve already got the previous generation iPad Pro, do they seriously buy every speed bump of MacBook Air?
 
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Surfman

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Yep I’m man enough to admit I was wrong, I’ve learned to except that apple holds off adding new features so they can milk their customers for longer.

Unfortunately android is garbage, so I’m stuck with apple ?‍♂️?
I didn’t even watch it, reading your reaction is enough.
 
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PrettyWings

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Struck me that what people said was important to them was announced.
Also there could be dozens more features that weren't in the presentation - that is normal. Let's wait and see

Right. Just found out that there is a recent files widget that gives you fast-access to folders on your Home Screen.
 

rui no onna

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So realistically, knowing what we know now:

M1 iPad Pro overkill? iPad Air is looking really solid for me right now. I don't see much advantage between Air and 11" Pro. Limited by software, the A14 looks more than capable for years to come.

Thoughts?

Personally, if I didn't need TouchID right now, I'd still choose the 2021 Pro. 4GB RAM is starting to feel tight with my usage.


I’d say it depends on what iPad version you have and what accessories you want. Apple Pencil 2 and Magic Keyboard are exclusive to the iPad Pro IIRC.

AP2 and MKB are compatible with the Air 4.
 

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oneMadRssn

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...

2) There still isn’t a default weather and calculator app on iPadOS?

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4) Digital Drivers Licenses is huge, and working with TSA is an amazing accomplishment but it’s going to need significant state government buy in, and not all states may want to play ball.

5) Same with corporate IDs - really awesome in theory, and I bet Apple will transition to this, but I can’t imagine other companies jumping to this in droves. Especially in healthcare. School IDs made sense and they really should roll this out to more institutions

6) Home keys - this is super cool and I wish my apartment building would adopt this but “no capital budget” seems to be the theme over the last year

...

2) It is really strange at this point. Like, beyond curious, at this point it is a seriously confusing thing that cannot be accidental. Is there a company out there that owns a patent on built-in tablet calculator and weather apps or something? It's just inexplicable.

4, 5, and 6) Apple really shows it's weakness with this stuff. Apple really shines when it's in charge of the whole vertical process, in launching features in a fully integrated way from day 1. Take FaceTime for example - all these cool new features will be available on nearly all iPhones, iPads, and Macs almost at the same time. But when Apple needs third-party buy-in (healthcare, government, third-party integrators) they seem to fall flat. Apple is not alone in this, Google and Amazon also struggle with this. I think Apple has been promising super amazing Wallet and services integrations for years now, and they never seem to materialize (remember mini apps - what ever happened to that?)
 

kc9hzn

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I think that we can agree that this depends on the work you do, can’t we?
And really, for most people in a WFH context, it probably can, and mouse support last year or the year before did the trick for the iPad on that front. So much work is either in the cloud or done via VPNs and Remote Desktop solutions these days.
 

DreamPod

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Are you sure this is correct? I remember Siri not working on my iPhone 4S when mobile data connectivity was poor.
Siri initially launched as a stand-alone app on the app store before Apple bought it and integrated it into the OS and made it online-only so they could make it smarter.
 

Delarock

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Can someone with ipados15 try to connect it with external monitor? maybe miracle will happen :D:D
 

bob24

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Personally, if I didn't need TouchID right now, I'd still choose the 2021 Pro. 4GB RAM is starting to feel tight with my usage.

Yes, and also it is a better display and speakers. Sure the Air's display is fine, but having used a ProMotion display, going back to a lower refresh rate iPad would be a rather annoying downgrade for me.
 
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Isengardtom

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Happy I got the new iPad Pro this year as its still amazing but definitely happy I didn’t go for a 16GB ram one
 
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