Yosemite is Beautiful

[citizenzen]

In the space of two hours, I've totally changed my mind.

Sure I could quibble with an icon or color, but overall, Yosemite is gorgeous.

It may have taken a bit to get used to, but now I like it. I like it a lot.

 

[merrickdrfc]

The folder icons have grown on me, wasn't keen to start with, but I really quite like them now

 

[slask]

The venerable master Jobs (amituofo!) would never approve of Yosemite. He would consider it a regression to the 1990s, reintroducing terribly ugly jagged fonts and horribly disturbing colors for folders and stuff.

Looking at the "dark" theme and I see what would be typical for Ubuntu ten years ago, a completely useless user interface designed by WIN-DOS people with no sense or taste whatsoever.

I'll give it one thumb up for finally adding apache 2.4, but other than that this operating system has nothing newsworthy at all. They didn't even fix the console window size bug that plagued Mavericks.

 

[Icaras]

Just wanted to add to the thread that I love Yosemite! I can't ever see myself going back to pre-iOS 7 design.

I really feel like that OS X has once again returned to differentiate itself from the compeition in terms of aesthetics. Couldn't be more pleased with Apple's direction.

 

[daijholt]

Just wanted to add to the thread that I love Yosemite! I can't ever see myself going back to pre-iOS 7 design.

I really feel like that OS X has once again returned to differentiate itself from the compeition in terms of aesthetics. Couldn't be more pleased with Apple's direction.

Totally agree. Trying to use mavericks really feels old fashioned after using Yosemite. It's the exact same feeling I got when trying to use iOS 6 after installing the iOS 7 beta.

 

[AZhappyjack]

The venerable master Jobs (amituofo!) would never approve of Yosemite. He would consider it a regression to the 1990s, reintroducing terribly ugly jagged fonts and horribly disturbing colors for folders and stuff.

With all due respect (to you and to Mr Jobs), he’s dead. He’s gone. He’s not coming back. What he wanted or would have approved of is not germane to the current discussion.

Looking at the "dark" theme and I see what would be typical for Ubuntu ten years ago, a completely useless user interface designed by WIN-DOS people with no sense or taste whatsoever.

I find it a refreshing look. Perhaps it is a bit reminiscent of Ubuntu 10 years ag - I can’t say, as I never used Ubunto. But it's also updated, current and, thankfully, 180° different from the horribly disgusting "metro" look of Windows.

I'll give it one thumb up for finally adding apache 2.4, but other than that this operating system has nothing newsworthy at all. They didn't even fix the console window size bug that plagued Mavericks.

Remember, it’s not done cooking yet. I suggest providing feedback/bug report to Apple regarding your concerns and issues.

 

[melburstein]

I have to say I'm rather disappointed in the appearance. Looks so bland and washed out.

As I read this and similar posts, I wonder if there is a good reason for the flat design. When I was a programmer, we had to keep rewriting our code inorder to get it down to as few bytes as possible. As computers become more and more powerful, this became less of a concern. But more efficient code still increases performance. We enjoy stunning icons and animation, but there is a price to pay in terms of the performance of the actual application. Just an opinion.

 

[0000111]

Where are you located? It's not supposed to fully work outside the US yet.

Spotlight isn't working for me, and I'm in the US...

I haven't tried it on a retina display yet, but the transparency does seem to be washed out looking. Maybe it'll improve.

It's beautiful on a Retina display--which was about half the reason I bought a rMBP than a MBP; I had an inkling it would be more future-proof, and unfortunately Yosemite is proving me correct. On my external monitor, jaggies everywhere. I hope some font smoothing comes into play, I've seen the "Helvetica Nue --> jagged on non-retina" complaint many many times on these forums.

I am experiencing better battery, maybe due to Safari's new efficiency?

I am as well, about a 25% increase. Can't say why though..

 

[thedeejay]

Spotlight isn't working for me, and I'm in the US...



It's beautiful on a Retina display--which was about half the reason I bought a rMBP than a MBP; I had an inkling it would be more future-proof, and unfortunately Yosemite is proving me correct. On my external monitor, jaggies everywhere. I hope some font smoothing comes into play, I've seen the "Helvetica Nue --> jagged on non-retina" complaint many many times on these forums.



I am as well, about a 25% increase. Can't say why though..

Same here. I recently got my mac stolen and say 'Hey what the heck', since they're eventually going to try to push Retina on everything. Yosemite is beautiful on Retina Display which is why I said earlier "it looks like it's made for retina display computers".

Battery life isn't as good as it is on Mavericks for me but that could be partially due to it being installed on a secondary HDD as opposed to a primary partition but who knows. I have faith that as the betas grow it will evolve into a much better OS

 

[nemesis4670]

We always go through these motions. Same thing happened with the change to iOS 7. Everyone complained about too much color and the transparency. They didn't like the icons. Now of course iOS 7 looks normal and everyone likes it. iOS 6 looks ancient in comparison and I'm sure Yosemite will eventually make Mavericks seem old too and these same people will grow to like it.

I love the new design it was desperately needed. It's only a beta people. It's not meant to be judged it's to help locate bugs ONLY. The final release is where the design/features should be criticized. Why doesn't anyone understand this?

 

[xmichaelp]

And still - not every app has translucency. Some sidebars have translucency and others don't.

Contacts does, notes does not.

Neither does the mac app store app, which does have scrollable content.Its still a mixed bag.

Notes does... Maybe you don't have the left sidebar enabled?

The mac app store doesn't have transparency because it doesn't have a sidebar, it would be weird to have the whole app be transparent. Unless you mean the top bar? Then yes I agree, but neither does itunes, and if the MAS is written from itunes than would be the reason why. I'm not sure if it is though.

 

[SarcasticJoe]

The venerable master Jobs (amituofo!) would never approve of Yosemite. He would consider it a regression to the 1990s, reintroducing terribly ugly jagged fonts and horribly disturbing colors for folders and stuff.

I suppose he wouldn't, but that would be because it scraps the skeumorphism he pushed Apple's designers into cramming practically everywhere they could. I personally hated the whole thing with stuff looking like they're made of glass or leather as it always looked out of place on a computer.

Looking at the "dark" theme and I see what would be typical for Ubuntu ten years ago, a completely useless user interface designed by WIN-DOS people with no sense or taste whatsoever.

Ubuntu actually had pretty decent design, the only thing that was wrong was the color sceme. Personally thought it looked like they got the colors from somebody throwing up, taking a picture, opening it up in GIMP and then using the sample tool here and there.

I'll give it one thumb up for finally adding apache 2.4, but other than that this operating system has nothing newsworthy at all. They didn't even fix the console window size bug that plagued Mavericks.

I use the terminal fairly extensively (programming, connecting to various servers with SSH, etc.) and I've never encountered any bugs in it.

 

[GerritV]

We always go through these motions. Same thing happened with the change to iOS 7. Everyone complained about too much color and the transparency. They didn't like the icons. Now of course iOS 7 looks normal and everyone likes it. iOS 6 looks ancient in comparison and I'm sure Yosemite will eventually make Mavericks seem old too and these same people will grow to like it.

I love the new design it was desperately needed. It's only a beta people. It's not meant to be judged it's to help locate bugs ONLY. The final release is where the design/features should be criticized. Why doesn't anyone understand this?

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I agree that after a while iOS7 looked normal, and eventually I got used to it - but saying that I also got to like it, hm... not so much. Those are two different things IMHO.
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I'm not sure whether or not the Yosemite design will still change that much. My guess is it won't. Fine tuning probably, but p.e. the folder icons I fear will be here to stay.

 

[leman]

Ok, I have to admit that I was skeptical when the DP1 came out. But literally an hour ago I decided to look at what has been done until now, and now I am completely blown away. The improvements up to DP4 are amazing. All these little subtle animations, the shades, the beautiful fonts, the icons (which have massively improved from their ugly DP1 state). This is indeed the most beautiful and consistent UI I have ever seen. There is nothing 'flat' about it. I would call it 'aery'. Its very light, subtle, unobtrusive and visually pleasant. Its an amazing job, Apple.


P.S. I think I will actually run it as my main OS starting next week. The improvements to Mail and Safari alone make it very tempting.

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The venerable master Jobs (amituofo!) would never approve of Yosemite. He would consider it a regression to the 1990s, reintroducing terribly ugly jagged fonts and horribly disturbing colors for folders and stuff.

This post is very puzzling for me, because I really cannot comprehend what you are saying. The fonts are extremely clear for me and while I am not the biggest fan of the light blue folders (hope it will get tuned down), most other things are top notch. Maybe its really the retina display thing? Let me guess you are not using one?

As I read this and similar posts, I wonder if there is a good reason for the flat design. When I was a programmer, we had to keep rewriting our code inorder to get it down to as few bytes as possible. As computers become more and more powerful, this became less of a concern. But more efficient code still increases performance. We enjoy stunning icons and animation, but there is a price to pay in terms of the performance of the actual application. Just an opinion.

Actually, the UI in Yosemite uses more computational resources than say, Mavericks. It has more animation and more translucency, which requires computationally expensive shaders. I believe that the reason for the 'flat design' is the visual efficiency rather than computational one.

 

[slask]

Console.app, not Terminal.app. It does not remember window size. Did not in Mavericks either. Filed bug report. Many others did too. Was not fixed.

I use the terminal fairly extensively (programming, connecting to various servers with SSH, etc.) and I've never encountered any bugs in it.

 

[slask]

Right, I am not using a retina screen, and so what I see is a regression beyond belief.

Jobs once famously said in an interview that Windows was tasteless, but what we see here is not just tasteless, it is butt ugly and so below common standards that it should be plain illegal to cram out such crap.

This post is very puzzling for me, because I really cannot comprehend what you are saying. The fonts are extremely clear for me and while I am not the biggest fan of the light blue folders (hope it will get tuned down), most other things are top notch. Maybe its really the retina display thing? Let me guess you are not using one?

 

[brewno]

Right, I am not using a retina screen, and so what I see is a regression beyond belief.

Jobs once famously said in an interview that Windows was tasteless, but what we see here is not just tasteless, it is butt ugly and so below common standards that it should be plain illegal to cram out such crap.

I'm SO glad I didn't install the beta. I don't have the retina, so I might stick with Mavericks.

 

[leman]

Right, I am not using a retina screen, and so what I see is a regression beyond belief.

Jobs once famously said in an interview that Windows was tasteless, but what we see here is not just tasteless, it is butt ugly and so below common standards that it should be plain illegal to cram out such crap.

Autsch. If thats how it looks on your screen, then I must agree with you - absolutely awful. On my screen, it looks gorgeous. Did you try setting/unsetting font smoothing?

I only hope that Apple are focusing their attention on retina displays right now and will fix the rendering for standard DPI ones as well in the future betas. I agree with you that this should not be acceptable in a released product, especially given how widespread standard-DPI displays are. Did you submit a report?

P.S. This is a screenshot taken on my rMBP and downscaled to a 'normal size'. Obviously, much detail is lost (it looks much sharper here), but you can see that even after downscaling its clearly not as washed out and bland as your picture

 

[n-evo]

Right, I am not using a retina screen, and so what I see is a regression beyond belief.

Jobs once famously said in an interview that Windows was tasteless, but what we see here is not just tasteless, it is butt ugly and so below common standards that it should be plain illegal to cram out such crap.

So here's what I don't get: You're complaining endlessly about something that's most likely just a bug and will be addressed in a future update. You don't seem to take into account at all that OS X Yosemite is still very much in beta. Instead you act like this is the actual shipping product and everything we see is set in stone.

Yes you are right there are currently readability issues, especially with the dark theme on non-Retina Macs. Personally I just report them through the build-in Feedback Assistant. If you can't deal with these imperfections you shouldn't be using OS X Yosemite just yet. It's that simple. This coming from a 2013 27-inch iMac owner.

 

[SirGoat]

Just installed it on my 2013 27-inch iMac and it looks amazing, except for a few things. Personally I really like dark mode and have been using it since I've enabled it. Apart from the visual changes, my iMac is extremely speedy now (It has a 1 TB hard disk), almost as fast as my rMBP. The only thing I really don't like is doing Command+Tab when not in dark mode. If you're doing it on a white background, there's basically no border which really bothers me...

 

[Siderz]

I completely agree, I absolutely love the look, I've never felt so good about a redesign on anything other than with iOS7 and Yosemite, I've never seen a UI that I'd describe as "beautiful" or "stunning", and it's not even a big change when you consider it's mainly graphic changes rather than layout.

But it won't be long before it wears off like iOS7 did and begins to look more normal. I don't think there's any way of avoiding that though. Looking forward to the final release when I can install it on my iMac, iOS8 as well, glad to finally be getting rid of the older look. I like the old look as well but out with the old and in with the new.

 

[iOSaddict]

Love the look. If only all the third parties are updated when yosemite goes public..

 

[denisvj]

Love the look. If only all the third parties are updated when yosemite goes public..

Here are some interesting concepts of how apps could see :
http://theultralinx.com/2014/07/30-stunning-icon-app-designs-os-yosemite.html

I hope Skype gets a new look

 

[Skylitfly]

Yeah I agree. Yosemite is beautiful on retina screens. Not so beautiful on my 24" 1080p external monitor. It is certainly designed to be used on high-res panels.

 

[nikicampos]

So far, almost a week, and I love Yosemite, it feels so refreshing, the first thing I noticed was the sharp blue folders, but after a few hours they don't seem that bright anymore, can't tell if they will be that bright in the final version.

Public Beta is running pretty good on my MacBook Pro Mid 2010, hopefully it will only get better.