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slask

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Indeed. I haven't seen this degree of pixelation since Windows XP. Guess i have to get a 4K display just to get back what i had before…

Apple fixed the washed-out icons bug in Dark Mode you mentioned earlier (see screen shot). Text rendering still seems off though when using a dark menu bar and Dock. More pixelated and many letters look cut off at the bottom.
 

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n-evo

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Indeed. I haven't seen this degree of pixelation since Windows XP. Guess i have to get a 4K display just to get back what i had before…
I'm really not sure what's going on in some places. It's like font smoothing isn't working properly. Or they reduced the font size to the point where font smoothing won't pick up on it to begin with. :confused: It's really weird though the fonts in Finder are that pixelated when text in the iTunes 12 beta 2 sidebar looks perfectly fine.

I haven't seen font issues like this before in OS X. And yes you're right, it does feel like Windows.
 

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MacGurl111

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I like the look but I don't of Yosemite. Everything looks very flat to me..
I have an Android phone and this OS X reminds me of Android. :D
I love Apple, though! :p
 

tkermit

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I have an Android phone and this OS X reminds me of Android. :D

Well, Android L / 'Material Design' doesn't seem to look too bad judging by the screenshots. Not so sure about previous versions...
 

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simonmet

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Apple fixed the washed-out icons bug in Dark Mode you mentioned earlier (see screen shot). Text rendering still seems off though when using a dark menu bar and Dock. More pixelated and many letters look cut off at the bottom.

My biggest gripes so far are that menus in dark mode are a bit too transparent and distracting making them more difficult to read than their standard white counterparts and the text in menus is too blurry, even on my rMBP.

I don't think Helvetica Neue is a very good font for legibility and readability in general because the top half of characters is too vertically squashed. That is the relative height difference for capitals and the top half of lower case letters is too small making character recognition slower.

What I like are pretty much everything else. The icons, Notification Centre, Dock, iCloud Drive etc.
 
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grahamperrin

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Liking and finding things exquisite in Yosemite

…

Yosemite in general

… First impressions: out of the box, no shortage of things to appreciate – attention to detail is remarkable … some of what Apple has done is exquisite. … some of what's in Yosemite … flawless as finishing touches. …

… a third party approach … choosing Yosemite for myself.

Earlier this evening I experimented for a while with use of Yosemite-like things in Mavericks. I'll post a screenshot later.

I do like the three buttons of Yosemite …

This is not my own screenshot, but I like what's in it. Note:
  • the streamlined look of the three 'stoplights' – as Apple calls those buttons – when colour is given –

aGG.gif


Martin Ottosson said:
…for all of you who've grown tired of themes trying to emulate plastic, metal or any other material that can be melted. If you're looking for bevels, reflections, shadows and a potpourri of colors, this is not the theme for you. … call this release a beta. Stay tuned …

– http://tinyurl.com/streamlined-stoplights-05

I love what Apple is planning around continuity (and if my suspicions are correct, some of what's secret will be extraordinarily good) …


– thanks to GerritV for that link.
 

grahamperrin

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Yosemite reminds me of a corpse. Lifeless dull look.

I think of it as unforgiving. Elsewhere, it's described as tolerable (worse than tolerable before changes for accessibility).

Mixed feelings. … Helvetica is awesome …

Unfortunately not sufficiently awesome. https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=19547344#post19547344 – one of the positive reactions to having a more legible font in Yosemite.

… Wow this font is hard to read! …

View attachment 482087 …

Just noticed this now too. …

Trying too! …

Dark mode is much easier to see:

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I prefer something like this:



– that's not Apple's approach to darkness.
… The fonts have also been harder to read, no doubt about it. I find myself having to get closer to my screens now. …

I found myself leaning forward repeatedly (bad posture as a reaction to Yosemite), it did not have the required effect.

… If i read the 'yosemite looks terrible' thread, i rarely find a real reason except the change itself.

There's now more substance to that topic.

… what I see is a regression beyond belief.

… what we see here is not just tasteless, it is butt ugly and so below common standards …

… If only all the third parties are updated when yosemite goes public..

My fear is that third party developers will follow not only the good examples. In the excitement, expect some of Apple's bad examples to be followed.
 

fisherking

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i gotta say...while not perfect (fonts on my pre-retina macbook pro)...i am, overall, loving the look of yosemite. dark mode is awesome. and the overall look of windows, menus...everything feels modern, clean. nice.

the calendar icon annoys the hell out of me, doesn't seem to fit with the other apple apps. but...not an issue. am more concerned with how my mac works.

and am happy so far with that as well...
 

thedeejay

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i gotta say...while not perfect (fonts on my pre-retina macbook pro)...i am, overall, loving the look of yosemite. dark mode is awesome. and the overall look of windows, menus...everything feels modern, clean. nice.

the calendar icon annoys the hell out of me, doesn't seem to fit with the other apple apps. but...not an issue. am more concerned with how my mac works.

and am happy so far with that as well...

How would you rate the overall fluidity?
 

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I agree it is the best looking OS X so far. It is a small thing but I love the log in screen how it is the wallpaper :p
 

Abba1

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Aug 6, 2014
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It is elegant

So far, it is the most elegant OS X system both functionally and visually. Yes, there are problems, a number of which I've experienced along with many others. But, we are testing the Beta so as to eliminate as many as possible before the full release. Nevertheless, I do think it is a thing of beauty, and will be even more so in one or two updates after the full GM. I think Steve Jobs would be proud!
 

Lachhh

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Aug 30, 2014
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I love the look. I like dark UI's and dislike gradients. I wish windows could be dark and transparent too. Other than that, pretty much perfect.
I don't much like Ubuntu, but I seriously envied Ubuntu users for the sweet looking UI & color scheme before Yosemite came along.
 

grahamperrin

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Topic popularity and orientation

…positive threads don't seem to get as much traffic … :p

This topic had more than thirty thousand views a few hours ago. Now more than thirty-one thousand. It's suitably prominent, and well-read.

Orientation

For people with nothing but praise for the appearance of Yosemite, there's no good reason to post that praise (alone) under 'looks terrible!' – this 'beautiful' topic is ideal.
 

fiveainone

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I do love the overall look. Still getting use to the font a bit, but overall I love it now looks like a family with iOS and AppleTV. Can't complain about the extra 20gig it saved somehow either. :)
 

Daysight

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Dec 15, 2011
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I was pleasantly surprised by the new look when I saw it for the first time on final release day 3. Like at first sight. Seems to help with my work efficiency because I can find things easier. Both my iMac and MacBook upgraded very smoothly too. All well.
 

bbfc

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Spotlight is awful and everything is too white

Love the Spotlight. I used to use Alfred, and now I don't anymore.

Yosemite took me a while to get used to, but when going back to Mavericks during the development previews, I missed the look of Yosemite. It's the same when going from iOS 7 to iOS 6 - it's a step back in time that just doesn't feel good anymore.

Sure, there are a few quirks, and no doubt Apple will seed the first beta of 10.10.1 pretty soon.
 
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