I believe he meant Pages, which is what Apple demoed when they first showed off Lion at the Back to the Mac event.
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10.7 All the Little Things!
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I believe he meant Pages, which is what Apple demoed when they first showed off Lion at the Back to the Mac event.
I don't think it can natively work on "any document". I'm pretty sure developers need to write their apps to specifically support it. Just like "fullscreen mode". The icon only shows up in the top right corner in certain apps that appear to be made for it. For versions, I've only seen it in preview and textedit so far.
An example from preview, which happens to support both full screen and versions:
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I was thinking the same. It probably was demoed on an unreleased new Pages....one that supports versions. Makes sense that if versions is a new feature for 10.7, apple is developing their applications to support this feature. iWork '11 coming with 10.7?
ok! anyone else that feels the same way do it too
but i have a feeling it wont be changed back to SL spaces design. the way that Spaces is shown in Mission Control a grid layout wont work because the spaces are shown at the top. they would have to remove spaces from MC and have it separate like in SL... which i wouldnt mind.
sorry, i missed this post.
i think they may put the differences there on purpose, and later take polls or inquire which the users prefer. seems a logical decision to me. apple does everything for a reason!
and yes - custom desktop/space names would be a welcome feature. just double click it when in exposé (err, mission control) and edit! done
yeh, im wrong. ignore me
thanks for that run down. would be nice if apple allows other vendors to do this.
ok! anyone else that feels the same way do it too
but i have a feeling it wont be changed back to SL spaces design. the way that Spaces is shown in Mission Control a grid layout wont work because the spaces are shown at the top. they would have to remove spaces from MC and have it separate like in SL... which i wouldnt mind.
Yes, and on top of that, the grid view only works when they can be arranged in an "x by x" square (or rectangle). For example you can't have 5 or 7 spaces in a grid view without making some awkward shape. This is a problem in Lion because every time you put an app in full screen mode, it makes a new space for it. That means that spaces are frequently added and removed and vary widely. Unfortunately, a single horizontal row is the best way to arrange spaces in Lion.
I absolutely hate the new spaces but there's no way apple is going to change it no matter how many "bug reports" they get. They clearly want to make it like the iPad and this is how the ipad does it. 4-finger swipe left/right moves between open apps. It wouldn't make sense to put apps (or spaces) above and below because 4-finger swipe up/down already has predefined functions. May as well get used to it.
Would someone care to put up a screenshot of the desktop/screensaver window showing all the new wallpapers apple ships out? Also, if someone can find them and put them up as a download that would be superb. 
Then in my opinion they're focusing too hard on bringing elements from iOS in and not focusing enough on how different the platforms still are, and where to draw the line between making it "iPad-like" and keeping full functionality as a computer OS.
Using Spaces on SL, set to the bottom-left hot corner, switching between spaces can be done with the flick of my wrist and and a click. There are no new spaces appearing because an application is full screen, so I know where all my windows are. It's all done in a minimum of time and as Apple are so keen to tell us, it simply works. It can be done without leaving either the keyboard or the mouse/trackpad, and barely disrupts any working flow.
On Lion, to access spaces, I gesture to bring up Mission Control, find and click a new space, then click a window in that space to exit MC. I've found it far slower, and so it gets in the way of what I want to be doing. Having an app full screen just makes it worse; I frankly find a new space appearing to be pretty confusing.
Personally I never found any problem with opening spaces using the hot corner, then four finger swiping down to Exposé all apps. Essentially the same as MC, but I only need to go to the extra effort when I need to.
I know theres an option to get the indicator lights back on the dock, but can you still quit an app from the dock or menu bar?
by default, osx Lion hides the dot which indicates whether an app is open or not.
annoying :/
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One of the things that I loved about SL was how apple added the ability to minimize windows into their application icons in the dock. Then, so I could see what windows were minimized, I could use Exposé, and it would show them under that little line to show it was minimized. But in Lion minimized windows aren't shown in Mission Control, so my standard workflow is thrown off. Is there something I'm missing, or did apple take away features?
Also, what happened to using Exposé to reveal the Desktop? I can live without it, but it was really quite nice to be able to do that. Did apple remove these features with Lion, or am I just really dumbfounded by the new gesture langue? (which also totally screws with my jiTouch =D)
Stan
One of the things that I loved about SL was how apple added the ability to minimize windows into their application icons in the dock. Then, so I could see what windows were minimized, I could use Exposé, and it would show them under that little line to show it was minimized. But in Lion minimized windows aren't shown in Mission Control, so my standard workflow is thrown off. Is there something I'm missing, or did apple take away features?
Also, what happened to using Exposé to reveal the Desktop? I can live without it, but it was really quite nice to be able to do that. Did apple remove these features with Lion, or am I just really dumbfounded by the new gesture langue? (which also totally screws with my jiTouch =D)
Stan
It's bringing the philosophy across that we should not care anymore if an application is running or not. Just like with iOS we should let the system take care of that.
That said, I still turned them back on.
I get the idea that Apple wants us to not care about what is running and just let the OS take care of the resource management. My thought it is, why would I want an app running that im not currently using? All its going to do is use ram and cpu power thus draining the battery.
Am I right or wrong?
Ideally, if they are written correctly, apps won't actually use any CPU and only a minimal amount of memory.
Most apps are actually quite well behaved when not in use. On iOS apps freeze and are then purged as necessary when resources get low. This isn't necessary with the sprawl of processing power on a desktop or laptop. However we could potentially see a similar system happen in the future once applications support resume.
Of course, if you need every available cycle and memory, you'd still be able to manually manage your apps yourself. But for most people that actually won't be necessary.
yup thats true, just an annoyance to me though
yeh totally, but as a "prosumer" who still gets page outs after 1 day uptime with 12GB RAM, i kind of need to be aware of what applications are opening - if you know what i mean.
for the majority of users though, you are right
i can see a few new ones, nature only has 1 more line iirc.
EDIT: found a bug, when my system goes into screensaver, the entire OS freezes after a few mins. forced reboot to fix. anybody else with this issue?
Yes, according to Appleinsider:
Reveal desktop via Expose is still there. 4-finger zoom out gesture (use your thumb.) Or F11.
If you minimize windows to the app icon, then you can only see them in Expose via the App-only Expose view, which you can access by F10 or clicking and holding on the app icon.
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Minimize to app icon is available under Dock preferences, though I haven't been able to get minimized windows to show up in mission control.
The gesture for Show Desktop has changed from four finger swipe up to 'spread up/out' - seems to work like a pinch out except with all five fingers (might be four, both seem to work and I'm not sure which is 'correct'.)
Better Touch Tool seems to be working OK with the new gestures.