10.8 GM Build out...

[SpiderDude]

OSX 10.i

Honestly, even though it is a major fixer of Lion's problems, for people who don't own a iOS device, there's still a lot of charm in SnoLeo.
Just the other day I averted a major crisis (cause by M$ Office, obviously) because I had easy access to my Library folder (yes i know it's only hidden, but I don't like to tamper with terminal just to hide and unhide stuff, I always have the feeling I'm touching stuff way above my knowledge level).

As I said, to me, this looks like OSX 10.i
(i as in iOS, not as I roman numerals)

I think it's a great OS, if you own an iOS device.
if not, gimme 10.6.8 yummies.

just a note, I'm not an android user. I have a Blackberry due to professional reasons.

 

[Calvinosaurus]

Someone with an rMBP let us know if the "smooth scrolling" problem seen in Lion is even less of a problem in the GM than the already-much-better DP4.

Just installed 10.8 GM on my rMBP and scrolling in Safari is smooth as glass now. In Lion I had a small but noticeable amount of lag; that's totally gone now.

 

[jasonefmonk]

Could anyone with an SSD on a standard Macbook Pro (IE one without built in flash storage) check to see if power nap is supported? I will be very disappointed if it is not

As far as I can recall from the keynote, they made Power Nap a feature specific to the more recent MBAs and the new MBP with Retina.

 

[iFanboy]

Just installed 10.8 GM on my rMBP and scrolling in Safari is smooth as glass now. In Lion I had a small but noticeable amount of lag; that's totally gone now.

Could you please try chrome canary? That's worse than Safari for lag for my rMBP

 

[DeltaRage]

Now running Mac OS X 10.8 GM with Facebook integration (preview) and final Safari 6! Woohoo!

Running SMOOTH on my Retina MacBook Pro.

Any smoother than DP4? Or the same?

 

[Ishimaru]

Yes, but still no Power Nab on Retina MBP

Not sure why Power Nap isn't available yet. Wonder if the dev forums have any insight.

 

[atMac]

Could you please try chrome canary? That's worse than Safari for lag for my rMBP

Chrome is known for being more GPU intensive, and with the rMBP's GPU already near limit from some of the reports that doesn't make this easier.

 

[rols]

I'm guessing that email will go out later today.

Apple is always behind on sending out these type of emails.

Yeah. It's on the notes above the download so submit away.

"Xcode 4.4 GM Seed can now be used to submit OS X Mountain Lion apps to the Mac App Store."

 

[cgk.emu]

I'm honestly not that excited about this upgrade. Nothing exciting has really come out since Tiger or Leopard in my opinion. Most of these new features will be used for like 5 minutes by the mainstream user because they're just not that important (i.e. Reminders). And they also end up taking up more precious RAM & most importantly, battery life (on a laptop). Can someone name something that is really that ground breaking in this release? It just seems like things were reorganized & tweaked a bit.

P.S.
I've been in the Apple game since 1985, so I know a good Apple product when I see it. I'm not saying this is bad, but it's just not that amazing. Maybe OS 11 will be exciting?

A few things have changed since 1985. For instance, RAM isn't "precious" anymore. 16GB is under $100...how much RAM could reminders take up? Under 100 MB maybe? Come on...

 

[iFanboy]

Chrome is known for being more GPU intensive, and with the rMBP's GPU already near limit from some of the reports that doesn't make this easier.

So ML only improves SAFARI lag? Can anyone else confirm? That's disappointing if true

 

[ethana]

Does the mac app store support full screen mode in 10.8?

It can go into full screen mode, but the icons within the window don't widen in the grid or anything like that. It looks just the same as when it's in windowed mode.

 

[Kar98]

Just installed 10.8 GM on my rMBP and scrolling in Safari is smooth as glass now. In Lion I had a small but noticeable amount of lag; that's totally gone now.

So, would you say that Safari is snappier?

 

[jlrathke]

I'm honestly not that excited about this upgrade. Nothing exciting has really come out since Tiger or Leopard in my opinion. Most of these new features will be used for like 5 minutes by the mainstream user because they're just not that important (i.e. Reminders). And they also end up taking up more precious RAM & most importantly, battery life (on a laptop). Can someone name something that is really that ground breaking in this release? It just seems like things were reorganized & tweaked a bit.

I would gladly pay the $20 just to be able to airplay to my ATV without iTunes....

Jerry

 

[lunarworks]

I'm honestly not that excited about this upgrade. Nothing exciting has really come out since Tiger or Leopard in my opinion. Most of these new features will be used for like 5 minutes by the mainstream user because they're just not that important (i.e. Reminders). And they also end up taking up more precious RAM & most importantly, battery life (on a laptop). Can someone name something that is really that ground breaking in this release? It just seems like things were reorganized & tweaked a bit.

P.S.
I've been in the Apple game since 1985, so I know a good Apple product when I see it. I'm not saying this is bad, but it's just not that amazing. Maybe OS 11 will be exciting?

People use computers for more than word processing today, grandpa.

(Although, you shouldn't be able to read this because I'm typing too small.)

/Apple user since the mid-'80s too

 

[Bengt77]

Why does a gold master have any known issues at all? Isn't the gold master version of software the actual release version? If so, how can there still be any known issues? I find this a very odd development.

 

[Calvinosaurus]

Could you please try chrome canary? That's worse than Safari for lag for my rMBP

Okay I just installed it, and between browsing MacRumors, the forums here, and I scrolled around on Facebook too, and I'm not seeing any sort of lag on the scrolling. Now, I didn't try using Chrome while on Lion so I have nothing to really compare it to, but like I said, I'm not seeing any lag here.

 

[austinguy23]

Now running Mac OS X 10.8 GM with Facebook integration (preview) and final Safari 6! Woohoo!

Running SMOOTH on my Retina MacBook Pro.

So scrolling the FB newsfeed and some other sites is no longer choppy as others complained about when the retina MBP came out?

 

[Calvinosaurus]

So, would you say that Safari is snappier?

I would definitely say so, yes I'm really pleased with what I'm seeing so far.

 

[Rocketman]

Not long to the new iMac and Mac-Mini now.

 

[ghostface147]

Why does a gold master have any known issues at all? Isn't the gold master version of software the actual release version? If so, how can there still be any known issues? I find this a very odd development.

Find me an OS that comes out of the gate issue free. I do find it odd Apple is this open about the issues though....

 

[Vidiot62]

Just the other day I averted a major crisis (cause by M$ Office, obviously) because I had easy access to my Library folder (yes i know it's only hidden, but I don't like to tamper with terminal just to hide and unhide stuff, I always have the feeling I'm touching stuff way above my knowledge level).

You can easily get to your library folder by going to "Go To Folder" in the "Go" menu and typing in ~/Library

 

[atMac]

Why does a gold master have any known issues at all? Isn't the gold master version of software the actual release version? If so, how can there still be any known issues? I find this a very odd development.

Its that none of them are frequent enough, or of a severity that would require them to push back their release date. The face they know implies that there will be a few patches or a .1 release in a month or two after the final is released. Or even a few updates available the day of actual public release.

 

[Northgrove]

Why does a gold master have any known issues at all? Isn't the gold master version of software the actual release version? If so, how can there still be any known issues? I find this a very odd development.

Software is always released with known issues. This is just how releases of complex systems work. Some of the issues are probably already worked on for OS X 10.8.1 since a while back, since OS X has been in feature freeze for the GM.

These companies simply set a bar as for what is acceptable or not.

This can be more easily verified in open source software, like Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox. Over there, they release new versions continously with hundreds, if not thousands of known issues, as anyone can see in their bug trackers.

Releasing software is by large a priority game.

With no priorities at all, and setting the bar at zero known bugs, the competitors would have released versions deemed acceptable by the public before Apple would have got their version out, and they would quickly fall behind. They would release either software no longer modern by the time it would be ready, or be stuck in a "feature creep" cycle where they keep adding features and fixing the related bugs to the new features, and never actually getting a release done. (the Duke Nukem Forever problem)

 

[ScottishDuck]

Why does a gold master have any known issues at all? Isn't the gold master version of software the actual release version? If so, how can there still be any known issues? I find this a very odd development.

Because deadlines exist.

Unless you're valve of course.

 

[nutmac]

Why does a gold master have any known issues at all? Isn't the gold master version of software the actual release version? If so, how can there still be any known issues? I find this a very odd development.

A gold master can have known issues as long as they are not deemed critical (a.k.a., showstoppers). All software is released with some known issues.