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I disagree, if people need the Mini-LED then they buy the Pro. The MacBook Air is the best selling MacBook. Adding a bigger screen brings it to more people, at a cheaper price. Most people don’t need the power of the Pro but do want a bigger screen. If Apple add Mini-LED then the price increases and that’s not what Air users want.
How can you disagree with something I am seeing?

I said I see students typing on 14 in MacBook Pro's. There is not much difference between 14 and 13.6. There obviously is a reason they are choosing it and its the screen. An Apple Store rep and myself had to talk a lady out of buying a 16 inch MacBook Pro just for the screen.
 
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120 grams is the difference and therefore negligible, no one notices.
The 15" Air is only interesting as a basic model; if you can get by with it, buy it. But if you need more memory and storage, don't buy it! It would be a bad deal!

I have the 14". I was responding specifically to the idea the 14" is more portable than the 15", which it really isn't.
 
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I would like to see a comparison of the foot print between the 15 inch Air and old generation 15 inch retina MacBook Pro.

MBP from much earlier…

15.4” 2008 14.4 x 9.8 x .95 inches 5.5 lbs

15.2” 2023 13.4 x 9.35 x .45 inches 3.3 lbs

2008 MBP Battery life — up to 5 hours only!
 
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Looks like a nice product, but I'll wait for the next iteration to see if they add dual monitor support. No reason to upgrade from the M1 Air without that feature.

It's 2023, dual monitors are not just for "pros" anymore.
 
How can you disagree with something I am seeing?

I said I see students typing on 14 in MacBook Pro's. There is not much difference between 14 and 13.6. There obviously is a reason they are choosing it and its the screen. An Apple Store rep and myself had to talk a lady out of buying a 16 inch MacBook Pro just for the screen.
starving students who can't afford their school costs and need bailing out are buying MacBook Pro's? Makes my head spin.
 
You might actually want to watch some reviews of latest Intel and AMD-based computers vs M2 chip. It's closer than you think (and Intel actually surpassed M2 in some cases). Battery life? Not everyone sits on a plane for 18 hours away from an AC outlet. Batteries charge so quickly nowadays...plug in for even 30 minutes and you've got another half day of charge. Big deal. MBA is thin, has great computing power and last a long time, but they are not cheap.
x86 performance on battery compared to Apple Silicon is just plain lousy. Whereas the Apple computer doesn't care. Add in that x86 just runs hot in laptops so needs a fan to cool it down so you have noise and heat. Folk who get these laptops do it for portability which is why I don't bother about packing a charger. If you need to charge it every so often then you're doing it wrong.
 
Looks like a nice product, but I'll wait for the next iteration to see if they add dual monitor support. No reason to upgrade from the M1 Air without that feature.

It's 2023, dual monitors are not just for "pros" anymore.
Wait for the next product that increases the base specs to 16/256GB. At some point in time it's going to look real stupid selling an 8/256GB Macbook for $1300.
 
I have the base 13” Air. Despite the “paltry” 8GB RAM and “slow” SSD, this machine is just as fast in real world use as my 14” M1 Pro. I’m sure the benchmarks tell a different story, but in actual use they are impossible to tell apart performance wise.

Ok perhaps the Air takes a couple seconds longer to export a video… but only a stop watch can tell. I mean if it bothers you, or if those precious seconds cost you money, then there’s a Pro machine for you.

Apple silicon is remarkable even in base spec. This is a near perfect laptop for everyone. Only the lack of dual external monitor support stops me from going it.
The lack of Mini led, pro motion, the cost with a bigger RAM & Memory and I doubt the speakers are as good as on the 14" MacBook Pro is the killer for me.
However you're right, it is a good lap top, much needed in the line up and I'm sure many people will be happy with it.
 
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Because the Dell XPS laptops honestly, suck. They're slow, get loud, stuck with bloated Windows software, and have really horrible battery life. Ever since Apple Silicon became a thing the M1 and M2 Macbooks completely outclassed the 13 inch XPSs, at a much cheaper price no less. So many 13 inch XPS users immediately switched to Mac once they saw the battery life. The last holdout for XPS was the 15 inch, and now that we got a 15 inch Macbook Air that is also cheaper...well...yeah it's really hard to justify getting an XPS notebook now.
But you can't run Windows on a Mac unless your running VM software. Even then the ARM version of Windows for the M1 chips won't run everything. I agree with many on your comments. The reality is the corporate world is still on Windows and will be for along time.
 
How can you disagree with something I am seeing?

I said I see students typing on 14 in MacBook Pro's. There is not much difference between 14 and 13.6. There obviously is a reason they are choosing it and its the screen. An Apple Store rep and myself had to talk a lady out of buying a 16 inch MacBook Pro just for the screen.

I wasn’t disagreeing with what you are seeing in an Apple Store, my disagreement is with people needing the Mini-LED for consumer related tasks.

I’m in the UK and I see far more people with MacBook Airs than with the MBP. A few years ago I was at university and most students had the Air.

Maybe it’s country dependent? But I think the Air is far more popular. The price and it’s portability make it a much better computer.
 
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But you can't run Windows on a Mac unless your running VM software. Even then the ARM version of Windows for the M1 chips won't run everything. I agree with many on your comments. The reality is the corporate world is still on Windows and will be for along time.
The Corporate world is not about productivity, just cheap bulk buying
 
Please reread my initial comment. I never once said anything about high-end performance. YOUR reply to my comment said "high performance Intel", but I never once mentioned anything about that.

"It's closer than you think (and Intel actually surpassed M2 in some cases)"

I presume you were referring to the high-end, because that's the only end Intel is anywhere close to competing with Apple.
 
My company offers both Mac and PC when it's time to swap out our laptops. Literally just check a box. We remote into proprietary systems via Remote Desktop (for either Mac or PC). All the rest, Office, OneDrive, Outlook, etc., all there on either.
 
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Looks like a nice product, but I'll wait for the next iteration to see if they add dual monitor support. No reason to upgrade from the M1 Air without that feature.

It's 2023, dual monitors are not just for "pros" anymore.
You won't see dual monitor support on an Air anytime soon. This 'premium' feature is locked behind the MacBook Pro paywall.
 
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You're right. I shop wisely. Got my 16" M1 Pro for $1500 on a Costco deal. I will never, ever give Apple $200 for $25 worth of product.
Was that recently or some months back as Costco online currently says it's out?

One reviewer said: 'The ram was not sufficient to run large Excel files while running multiple other program (Zoom, Word, active Zoom meetings, etc.)'.

MacOS should handle 'simpler' tasks like zoom, word, etc... with 16Gb ram.
It's posts like that, that makes one wonder if 16Gb is more than sufficient for more 'basic' tasks, esp. if one wants to keep the laptop for a few years.
 
One difference that might be interesting will be difference in keyboard feel.
I found the difference between the 14 or 16” pro keyboard and 13” Air quite large.
The air has a much springier keyboard feel. The Pros feel much more solid, but not as pleasant [at least for me].
I expect this one will feel more like the 13”. It might be a +1 for the Air for some people.
 
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They can easily run two external displays considering I'm running three 27" 4k displays with my 13" M1. This is one of my latest setups. I've been running triple display setups for 10+ years:
 

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Every review is tempered by Apple rules, these are not real reviews, they're Apple PR videos, even so I didn't see Marquis exactly drooling over it

That's a really disrespectful thing to say. I would never question the integrity of these distinguished individuals who have been producing biblical standard reviews for years and years.
 
Actually, they do, every time I go to the Apple Store, general consumers who don't need that much power are always flocking to the 16 and 14 inch MacBook Pros. I live in a college town and then amount of 14 inch MacBook Pro's I just see text documents being typed on is astounding. You don't need a 14 inch Mini-LED screen to type documents.
True about typing docs, however the Mini LED is much better for content, which everybody watches and the pro motion better for browsing.
I'm just an average consumer, but I care about the Mini LED, pro motion and the speakers in particular, which is why the Air is not for me
 
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