Who said I was staging a protest? All I said was if we want them to change we (ie their customers) need to stop buying it in order for them to change otherwise it’s just status quo.
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iPhone 16 Pro 16 Pro - WTF Were They Thinking?
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I mean... people who bought last year iphone because the main selling point was USB-C.. that had to be a poor decision as you know the following year will be more of an upgrade... for example... it will be equivalent to this year buying the Ultra 2 black.. thats it.. just a color and a new band... foreshadowing the Ultra 3 next year will be fire..
I think that you’re missing the reality that APPL is satisfying MOST costumers as indicated by its strong EPS.
Maybe not you, maybe not me, but MOST.
I was severely slapped upside my dumb head when someone said that worldwide, a person’s smartphone is his/her only gadget. Yeah that. Since then, I’ve noticed how many Mexicans (where I live) have giant Android phones.
My desire for a mini PRO and other’s desire for a leap forward aren’t shared by most consumers worldwide.
And Tim is delivering on Steve’s vision of humanity having access to elegant vs ugly. 😊
Mini pro would be the dream for me. I’m only just now going to be upgrading my 12 mini
I honestly struggled to stay awake through the keynote. No reason to upgrade from my Ultra 2 or iPhone 15 Pro for the foreseeable future. I do like the new capture button, but Im not shelling out 1k for that.
I was more impressed by the hearing test/aid functionality in the AirPods Pro 2. Genuinely impressive.
The Apple Intelligence fluff is all a bit boring too. I have been running the Beta and the only thing I have found really good is the way it summarizes messages, and emails. I don't like there way its being incrementally rolled out and using different sources such as Chat GPT etc just feels like Apple have cobbled it all together.
I was more impressed by the hearing test/aid functionality in the AirPods Pro 2. Genuinely impressive.
The Apple Intelligence fluff is all a bit boring too. I have been running the Beta and the only thing I have found really good is the way it summarizes messages, and emails. I don't like there way its being incrementally rolled out and using different sources such as Chat GPT etc just feels like Apple have cobbled it all together.
They introduced 3rd generation of iPhone with Dynamic Island, now with bigger screen, different aspect ratio and they STILL didn't fix the way Dynamic Island cuts into videos? This is just... embarrassing and I can't and don't want to believe that they're not able to fix that
Another fan boy eagerly awaiting to purchase the next Apple product
Apple Intelligence isn't in beta release yet. The iOS 18 betas have no Apple Intelligence features.
All I can think of is Apple must be spending a lot of lobbying money to keep Chinese phones out of America.
It’s like our slow 100 year old jalopy trains versus their space age high speed floaty ones. I don’t think American companies will ever catch up to the rest of the world.
How do I get a Huawei phone?
It’s like our slow 100 year old jalopy trains versus their space age high speed floaty ones. I don’t think American companies will ever catch up to the rest of the world.
How do I get a Huawei phone?
Easy if you actually want to. But incredibly dumb to intentionally use one. There's good reason Huawei devices can't be sold, and it isn't "Apple lobbying money."
Y’all are funny. Want a Huawei phone? Probably not that hard to import. That’s all on you to do. It breaks? No Huawei store for repair. No express replacements. No App Store that’s US based. Peripherals? Scarce. And why go international? The Pixels look solid, iPhone like but from google. And you have a fold as an option. Solid in many ways, the crease ruins it for me and the cameras are not top tier. The regular Pixel 9 pro? Seems like an iPhone, which is great! But not sure where the drama about Apple being uninnovative is. Gemini isn’t stellar either. Spend some time on a google pixel forum, you’ll see. ChatGPT and Anthropic best it in many ways. And if Apple can get a plug in system working with different LLMs? Solid!
It’s obvious why Apple releases a phone every year, even if it isn’t the biggest upgrade over the prior year. Apple has never focused on the annual upgrader. Few people do that. They will grab plenty of people on older devices with diminishing battery life and a slowing OS who are waiting for the newest device. Here it is.
If you bought a phone under 12 months ago, boycott them or whatever. This isn’t really for you.
If you bought a phone under 12 months ago, boycott them or whatever. This isn’t really for you.
Since I live in Mexico, l‘ve looked at Huawei phones. Meh.
If you have an iPhone, you have a white zebra with black stripes. Everything else is a black zebra with white stripes.
Love it or loath it, but the Apple ecosystem is a thing. I like that my cell, my watch, my pad, and my laptop play together, albeit a tad imperfectly. Do I want to incorporate a zebra from another paddock?
I have a friend with an iPhone Pro but a Windows desktop and a Surface pad. We end up emailing because he can’t easily move from here to there.
YMMV
I agree with what your saying, as a 15 pro max owner that wanted to stay on a 2 year upgrade cycle, Apple made that decision very easy, even the possible AI advantages aren’t available yet, hopefully the 17 pro will be a super cycle upgrade.
My wish is to get a Pixel Fold. However, staying in the Apple ecosystem is what keeps me back.
I will probably get an iPhone 16 simply because my iPhone 12 is broken in many ways; doesn't pay off to try to repair. But I feel no excitement about it, more like buying a new refrigerator when the old one broke.
People who don't have technical expertise.
Apple Intelligence's private cloud compute is indeed novel. And it's the reason I'll willingly use Apple's Intelligence features, but I would not use an Android phone or standard off-the-shelf AI products.
My friends that work in defense are very happy (and their job security high) due to the fact that hostile foreign actors may be using Huawei and other Android devices.
Thank you the very quick reply. That’s a very helpful perspective. It will be interesting to see, in due course, the the supposedly improved battery in the 16 Pro lasts longer. I am impressed by the fact that my iPhone X — with the original battery — is still perfectly okay (and works fine for what I use it for). I don’t suppose I have stressed it much, though.
Funny all the disappointment because the real product matched the rumours.
I like the new camera button. Touch and slide to access most of the features seems pretty good to me. Smartphones are good cameras (often better than real ones) for daily life where you're shooting indoors and need a wide lens more often than a zoom. Outdoors I'm often frustrated with phones and my rugged adventure camera because it only goes to 100mm. So instead of a new iPhone I'm going to be spending my money on a "real" camera with a 600mm lens. Unlike a phone it should last 15-20 years too.
I'm seeing people give hints on maintaining good battery health (don't fully charge and definitely never let it run dry), but also whining about not getting faster charging. Guess what? fast charging is terrible for battery health.
I like the new camera button. Touch and slide to access most of the features seems pretty good to me. Smartphones are good cameras (often better than real ones) for daily life where you're shooting indoors and need a wide lens more often than a zoom. Outdoors I'm often frustrated with phones and my rugged adventure camera because it only goes to 100mm. So instead of a new iPhone I'm going to be spending my money on a "real" camera with a 600mm lens. Unlike a phone it should last 15-20 years too.
I'm seeing people give hints on maintaining good battery health (don't fully charge and definitely never let it run dry), but also whining about not getting faster charging. Guess what? fast charging is terrible for battery health.
Thank you taking the trouble to reply. I am pleased to hear that. Although, in many respects, I would be happy to stick with my iPhone X, I am beginning to feel that it would be prudent to have some of the security features that are in the more recent iOS releases (and there are quite a few things that, although I don’t need them, certainly fall into the ‘nice to have’ category).
I would say the big selling point for the iPhone 15 pro max models was the titanium body, USB C, and the 5X camera. The biggest selling point on the 16 pro models is largely Apple intelligence which is software and is coming to last year’s pro models as well. The 16 pro is very similar to last years model and really isn't for those that have a 15 pro or max. It's for those that have a 14 model phone or older.
Yeah. Kinda feels like the 15 Pro models were secretly "prototype" 2024 iPhones released a year early to be around to support the introduction of Apple Intelligence at WWDC. I was expecting the 16 lineup would bring some additional AI functionality not announced at WWDC, but the only thing they get over the 15 Pro's is the Visual Intelligence feature. The A18 Pro chip looks to be a fairly minor upgrade compared to the A17 Pro and I doubt the improvements will translate to a noticeable performance difference running AI tasks.
As a regular 15 Pro owner the thing I'm most bummed at missing out on is the better battery & thermal design. Having the 5x zoom option in the smaller size would have been nice too. 3x is in this range of being more zoomed in than I would normally want when framing a photo, but not enough when I actually do want to zoom in on something...