1Password migrants thread

[MadeTheSwitch]

Therefore you have your own, and a shared one. Isn't this the same thing you are talking about with Codebook?

No. There is no private vs. shared database as far as I can tell. There’s just one database.

if you mean by family option a shared database, then wouldn't that make 1pw the best choice for you? your passwords will be stored in the cloud already.

Not necessarily. Things could be synced up on the home computer with wifi syncing. But it seems geared to only one user, not a family. It makes me wonder if any of these people have spouses or families at this company since they don’t even mention familes at all, not even in their FAQ. ?

 

[bradl]

No. There is no private vs. shared database as far as I can tell. There’s just one database.

Not necessarily. Things could be synced up on the home computer with wifi syncing. But it seems geared to only one user, not a family. It makes me wonder if any of these people have spouses or families at this company since they don’t even mention familes at all, not even in their FAQ. ?

Not for nothing, but the same thing could be said about Apple. I mean, their iDevices are geared to only one user, not a family..

BL.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

Not for nothing, but the same thing could be said about Apple. I mean, their iDevices are geared to only one user, not a family..

BL.

Yes and no. You can say that about their hardware. But their software services DO have a family sharing program.

 

[MacBH928]

No. There is no private vs. shared database as far as I can tell. There’s just one database.

Not necessarily. Things could be synced up on the home computer with wifi syncing. But it seems geared to only one user, not a family. It makes me wonder if any of these people have spouses or families at this company since they don’t even mention familes at all, not even in their FAQ. ?

if it has multiple vaults you can make one shared. Its not like it knows who is the smartphone user. I think you can sync to unlimited devices? 5 smartphones and 3 ipads, 2 computers...anything you want... I think...

 

[MacBH928]

Yet Linux was being used on nearly every webserver in the mid-late 90s going into the 2000s, made the other major Unix OSes obsolete, causing some of those companies to completely go out of business (Ultrix? gone. Digital Unix? gone. SCO? gone. BSDi? gone. NeXT? sorta gone. Dynix? gone. Novell? gone. Solaris, HPUX, and AIX are all but gone.)

My point here is that it was considered a joke and a laughing stock by all of the "well known" companies, while now those "well known companies" are all but buried. Not bad for an unknown one-man show that now is a huge show with tons of developers.

Zetetic apparently has been around for longer than that 15 years, as they were providing password managers for the Palm Pilot roughly 20 years ago. So they have definitely been around.

BL.

I am not against the idea that Zetetic take password managers more seriously and jump to take on 1pw

 

[macintoshmac]

One problem with Codebook, and that is probably not going to occur if people are using it fresh, is regarding Time-based One-Time Passwords (TOTPs). I imported 1Password files and Enpass files, and realised that Codebook simply does not recognise TOTPs properly. I have to change the field from one-time password to TOTP manually for the entry and then it recognises it.

Sure, it would be a one-time activity for over 300 entries, but this is a bummer. Autofill is great, neatly integrated with Safari but nothing for Firefox and Chrome. For them, there is the option to use keyboard shortcuts and invoke Secret Agent or open the app and copy-paste.. if I recall correctly. I stopped paying attention to this the moment I realised that I will have to sit and correct my 300+ entries for TOTP recognition. Enpass imported each one of them flawlessly.

 

[bradl]

One problem with Codebook, and that is probably not going to occur if people are using it fresh, is regarding TOTPs. I imported 1Password files and Enpass files, and realised that Codebook simply does not recognise TOTPs properly. I have to change the field from one-time password to TOTP manually for the entry and then it recognises it.

Sure, it would be a one-time activity for over 300 entries, but this is a bummer. Autofill is great, neatly integrated with Safari but nothing for Firefox and Chrome. For them, there is the option to use keyboard shortcuts and invoke Secret Agent or open the app and copy-paste.. if I recall correctly. I stopped paying attention to this the moment I realised that I will have to sit and correct my 300+ entries for TOTP recognition. Enpass imported each one of them flawlessly.

This may be worth mentioning to the Codebook developers, because that would be a serious problem for anyone migrating to Codebook. They may not have thought of that but they do have the developers that can work on it.

BL.

 

[Huntn]

One problem with Codebook, and that is probably not going to occur if people are using it fresh, is regarding TOTPs. I imported 1Password files and Enpass files, and realised that Codebook simply does not recognise TOTPs properly. I have to change the field from one-time password to TOTP manually for the entry and then it recognises it.

Sure, it would be a one-time activity for over 300 entries, but this is a bummer. Autofill is great, neatly integrated with Safari but nothing for Firefox and Chrome. For them, there is the option to use keyboard shortcuts and invoke Secret Agent or open the app and copy-paste.. if I recall correctly. I stopped paying attention to this the moment I realised that I will have to sit and correct my 300+ entries for TOTP recognition. Enpass imported each one of them flawlessly.

I’m not familiar the term TOTPS, could you explain what has to be done to imported entries from 1PW. Thanks!

 

[Enzedder]

I’m not familiar the term TOTPS, could you explain what has to be done to imported entries from 1PW. Thanks!

Time-based one-time password - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[max2]

Cool.

 

[toasted ICT]

I had the same sort of problem with Time Based One Time Passwords exported from 1Password... this on every alternate password manager I tried (And I actually installed a tried about 8 pw managers).... I decided its to do with 1P exports .... a 1Password 'lock the customer in' feature. Ha.
Fortunately copy and paste works fine and I only had about 10 logins that used TOTP that needed this copy and paste treatment.

 

[MacBH928]

One problem with Codebook, and that is probably not going to occur if people are using it fresh, is regarding Time-based One-Time Passwords (TOTPs). I imported 1Password files and Enpass files, and realised that Codebook simply does not recognise TOTPs properly. I have to change the field from one-time password to TOTP manually for the entry and then it recognises it.

Sure, it would be a one-time activity for over 300 entries, but this is a bummer. Autofill is great, neatly integrated with Safari but nothing for Firefox and Chrome. For them, there is the option to use keyboard shortcuts and invoke Secret Agent or open the app and copy-paste.. if I recall correctly. I stopped paying attention to this the moment I realised that I will have to sit and correct my 300+ entries for TOTP recognition. Enpass imported each one of them flawlessly.

How is Enpass going so far? any downsides?

I had the same sort of problem with Time Based One Time Passwords exported from 1Password... this on every alternate password manager I tried (And I actually installed a tried about 8 pw managers).... I decided its to do with 1P exports .... a 1Password 'lock the customer in' feature. Ha.
Fortunately copy and paste works fine and I only had about 10 logins that used TOTP that needed this copy and paste treatment.

you tried 8 pw managers, any opinions, warnings or recommendations ?

 

[macintoshmac]

How is Enpass going so far? any downsides?

It is running fine since I started using it. I do not have 1Password on any of my systems any longer.

Grown confident enough to have newest data in Enpass - data that is not existing anywhere else. Although I suppose I should make some exports for backup, just in case. That is handled by Enpass as well, but those might be Enpass backups. I would like open backups that can be used anywhere.

Zero downsides apart from the ones I already mentioned when I did. Since I use iCloud Sync, it requires syncing every 24 hours, but that is not prohibitive, since a sync is necessary only if I changed some information somewhere. So, I sync occasionally. The same is needed for Android devices as well. Now, I could get away with not syncing using iCloud and start syncing using WiFi Sync option, too. I like these options available.

I do want to try Codebook a little, especially with other browsers. If you (or any member reading this) can help with that, please do. How does Codebook work with Firefox and Chrome?

I know Codebook works perfectly with Safari owing to macOS Autofill feature. Any help about Firefox and Chrome would be appreciated.

Codebook seems nice prima facie, except for that TOTP issue, which, admittedly, is just a one-time thing, howsoever annoying. The only thing that might tilt me towards Codebook is if it turns out to be easier to autofill passwords (across browsers) and I thought there was a way to fill custom entries. So, for example, if a web page requires my birthday digits, I thought I could configure that?

 

[abhibeckert]

Codebook mini review:

TL;DR: A viable option

It doesn't have a workable sync option for me.

Wifi Sync appears to be manual and it won't run if your Mac is sleeping. You'd basically have to run (and properly secure) your own Mac server. I won't run Dropbox or Google Drive on my Mac. The hit to battery life is just too much... also who knows what those two products will be like in the future?

I'm trying out Secrets, seems good so far.

 

[max2]

I wish Secrets had a windows version!

 

[max2]

Enpass seems ok but not a lot of details

You can't change login icons, etc

 

[macintoshmac]

Enpass seems ok but not a lot of details

You can't change login icons, etc

Enpass can pull favicons from websites. Custom icons, not sure.

 

[max2]

Enpass can pull favicons from websites. Custom icons, not sure.

Thanks.

 

[max2]

Codebook seems ok too but no firefox extension

 

[toasted ICT]

you tried 8 pw managers, any opinions, warnings or recommendations ?

Take a look at my previous posts at this thread for details.

My opinion support for PC, iphone, ipad, Mac (ie windows, iOS, macOS) then Safeincloud is good.

If its iOS, macOS only then Strongbox is terrific.

I dont use "family" features.

 

[bradl]

It doesn't have a workable sync option for me.

Wifi Sync appears to be manual and it won't run if your Mac is sleeping.

This is the same with 1Password and the others. Codebook is no different here.

You'd basically have to run (and properly secure) your own Mac server.

This isn't true. You do not have to run a separate server to use WiFi sync. Their WiFi sync works the same as 1Password does, in which you'd have to start the server from within the 1Password program on the devices that need to be synced, then sync. No server is required for that (read: server in what would be required for BitWarden).

BL.

 

[MacBH928]

It is running fine since I started using it. I do not have 1Password on any of my systems any longer.

Grown confident enough to have newest data in Enpass - data that is not existing anywhere else. Although I suppose I should make some exports for backup, just in case. That is handled by Enpass as well, but those might be Enpass backups. I would like open backups that can be used anywhere.

Zero downsides apart from the ones I already mentioned when I did. Since I use iCloud Sync, it requires syncing every 24 hours, but that is not prohibitive, since a sync is necessary only if I changed some information somewhere. So, I sync occasionally. The same is needed for Android devices as well. Now, I could get away with not syncing using iCloud and start syncing using WiFi Sync option, too. I like these options available.

I do want to try Codebook a little, especially with other browsers. If you (or any member reading this) can help with that, please do. How does Codebook work with Firefox and Chrome?

I know Codebook works perfectly with Safari owing to macOS Autofill feature. Any help about Firefox and Chrome would be appreciated.

Codebook seems nice prima facie, except for that TOTP issue, which, admittedly, is just a one-time thing, howsoever annoying. The only thing that might tilt me towards Codebook is if it turns out to be easier to autofill passwords (across browsers) and I thought there was a way to fill custom entries. So, for example, if a web page requires my birthday digits, I thought I could configure that?

i can't test that because I am on Mojave, my understanding Codebook works better on Big Sur or newer

 

[bradl]

i can't test that because I am on Mojave, my understanding Codebook works better on Big Sur or newer

That's interesting if it does, because minimum requirements for it is Yosemite, and as it's a universal binary, it will work both on Silicon and Intel.

BL.

 

[MacBH928]

That's interesting if it does, because minimum requirements for it is Yosemite, and as it's a universal binary, it will work both on Silicon and Intel.

BL.

the autofill works in a different way, i am not sure how but for mojave there is something called secret agent for Big Sure -> it works in a different manner i think.

 

[MacBH928]

From another thread:

#3 CoolFactor: "I miss my desktop publishing days. It really was a fire in my soul back in highschool. PageMaker, baby! And wow! Just checked out Affinity Publisher and only $75 CAD to buy!?!?! That's a crazy low price for such a powerful piece of software."

somehow $80-100 is not sustainable for a Agilebits to create a password manager