Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Status
The first post of this thread is a WikiPost and can be edited by anyone with the appropiate permissions. Your edits will be public.
No, have exactly the same config right in front of me and it is working. Sure you have booted the SD card and you got the different OpenCore boot screen?

I think so, I get this screen when booting from SD:
1601555370690.png


then select "Catalina" and system boots, but no brightness control.
I have also tried booting on my old High Sierra, and I got brightness control on High Sierra.
Gonna try reinstall Catalina and see if that fixes it.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Nguyen Duc Hieu
Well, it is ok to sell it to move on if you are fed up with the troubles in upgrading and maintaining it in the years to come but not enjoying the adventure and thrill in accomplishing the near impossible, nor accepting the possible failure 😌

AT some point in time your computing need may out-run the decade old computer, but that would be different for different people.

I am still clinging onto my iMac 2007 with all hardware upgrades (T9500 CPU, SSD, 6GB RAM, Wifi ac/n, BT 4.0) running Catalina with metal support in an acceptable speed for daily use by my wife

I am going to update my own iMac 2010 to last till the new ARM Mac is ripe for my new toy. The graphic card is now the only obstacle after upgrading the SSD, RAM, Wifi, BT to run Catalina, and hopefully Bir Sur. If successful, USB 3.0 would be the final frontier.
 
Must be DELL cards
LOL, you're telling me. I'm the one that spent months buying different cards to see what works in the 2011 iMac's. I'm the one that figured out the wx4130 00D cards work best. A 00D Dell RX560M card exists (where the VBIOS came from) that doesn't work at all in the 2011 iMac's and on my 21.5" 2010 iMac make the SMC go crazy and give null results when attempting to benchmark. Even though the PCB layout is mostly identical (I even removed components to match the WX-4130) the card still doesn't function properly. More time needs to be invested into this topic, which currently I don't have.

TLDR: There is a SMC issues that causes some cards to 1. Not show up at all. 2. When being benchmarked, cause the SMC to go crazy.
 
Last edited:
How cheap is the HP USDT with Windows ?

But you can just spend a few bucks for the CH341a BIOS/EPROM programmer to flash a card in OSX using flashrom, all under direct monitoring ?
The WX cards have an EEPROM that is now too short to clip, so an HP elitedesk with MXM slot and Windows 10 is a must, I recommend the HP 800 G1 as one DisplayPort output is always iGPU so you can fix bricked cards. They are about $80 USD used.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nguyen Duc Hieu
Hi all!

I own an iMac 2011 21,5" with an AMD HD6770M graphics card, 16GB and an i5 CPU.
Since it doesn't support Catalina or Mojave, I'd like to upgrade the graphics card.
Can anybody recommend the best suitable graphics card?

I already searched AliExpress for some DELL K1100M and DELL K2100M.
Checking UserBenchmark.com against my 6770M - both should be a bit faster.
The K1100M is around 50 euros, the K2100M is around 75 euros.
Or are there other better cards?
I don't need that much more graphicspower, only Mojave/Catalina compatibility :)

PS: I don't want to change or "hack" the heatsink and if the screen is always at 100% brightness it doesn't bother me.

Thanks!
Andreas
 
Well, it is ok to sell it to move on if you are fed up with the troubles in upgrading and maintaining it in the years to come but not enjoying the adventure and thrill in accomplishing the near impossible, nor accepting the possible failure 😌

AT some point in time your computing need may out-run the decade old computer, but that would be different for different people.

I am still clinging onto my iMac 2007 with all hardware upgrades (T9500 CPU, SSD, 6GB RAM, Wifi ac/n, BT 4.0) running Catalina with metal support in an acceptable speed for daily use by my wife

I am going to update my own iMac 2010 to last till the new ARM Mac is ripe for my new toy. The graphic card is now the only obstacle after upgrading the SSD, RAM, Wifi, BT to run Catalina, and hopefully Bir Sur. If successful, USB 3.0 would be the final frontier.
On the 2011 iMacs since they have thunderbolt, I use a Thunderbolt Dock meant for Macbooks, this gives me a few advantages such as another audio output, USB 3.0 a 2nd HDMI output so I can use 3 displays with AMD cards. Working Ethernet for when Big Sur breaks it. Yes Big Sur will work on the 2010 iMac's but Volume sealing is a nightmare. Apple "fixed" volume sealing with the last Dev Beta so it's guaranteed to always work. It's a nightmare OS like IOS is, I truly hate it.
 
Hi all!

I own an iMac 2011 21,5" with an AMD HD6770M graphics card, 16GB and an i5 CPU.
Since it doesn't support Catalina or Mojave, I'd like to upgrade the graphics card.
Can anybody recommend the best suitable graphics card?

I already searched AliExpress for some DELL K1100M and DELL K2100M.
Checking UserBenchmark.com against my 6770M - both should be a bit faster.
The K1100M is around 50 euros, the K2100M is around 75 euros.
Or are there other better cards?
I don't need that much more graphicspower, only Mojave/Catalina compatibility :)

PS: I don't want to change or "hack" the heatsink and if the screen is always at 100% brightness it doesn't bother me.

Thanks!
Andreas
Well since your on a 21.5" model you're limited to the k1100m/k2100m/k610m. (wx4130 which I don't recommend due to the lack of real Bootscreen)
 
  • Like
Reactions: astuermer
Thanks!
So the K1000 or K2000 won't work in the 21.5" model?
Are they somehow compareable to my current 6770M?
They work, they have no Backlight control with OpenCore. So we don't talk about them anymore. I have a k2000m. It's an okay card, I just don't use it anymore due to lack of Brightness control. If an updated ROM was created for the 765m/770m/k1000m/k2000m they would be recommend again.
 
  • Like
Reactions: astuermer
The current Catalina Loader is at 0.6.0.

I just check that the latest OpenCore is at 0.6.2.
I update the Lilu and Whatevergreen in my copy of old Catalina Loader.

How can I also update the rest to the new OpenCore ?

Looking for advice to DIY so as to reduce the future request in this forum for a timely update of the Loader.
Thanks in advance.
 
LOL, you're telling me. I'm the one that spent months buying different cards to see what works in the 2011 iMac's. I'm the one that figured out the wx4130 00D cards work best. A 00D Dell RX560M card exists (where the VBIOS came from) that doesn't work at all in the 2011 iMac's and on my 21.5" 2010 iMac make the SMC go crazy and give null results when attempting to benchmark. Even though the PCB layout is mostly identical (I even removed components to match the WX-4130) the card still doesn't function properly. More time needs to be invested into this topic, which currently I don't have.

TLDR: There is a SMC issues that causes some cards to 1. Not show up at all. 2. When being benchmarked, cause the SMC to go crazy.

Ok friend, I'm not a tech not hacker person, just currently trying to upgrade my Mid 2011 21.5 with a WX4150 and I'm just repeating what the post says on first page where they synthesize on third point "only dell branded cards work", maybe you found something new and would be really good that you success with an HP, btw my DELL WX4150 does boot into Sierra, Catalina and Windows 10, just trying to figure out about not having signal on main display but does on external but so far works, didn't have none of those issues you mentioned but I guess we all experience different things
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20201001-102115_Samsung Internet.jpg
    Screenshot_20201001-102115_Samsung Internet.jpg
    318.8 KB · Views: 170
Ok friend, I'm not a tech not hacker person, just currently trying to upgrade my Mid 2011 21.5 with a WX4150 and I'm just repeating what the post says on first page where they synthesize on third point "only dell branded cards work", maybe you found something new and would be really good that you success with an HP, btw my DELL WX4150 does boot into Sierra, Catalina and Windows 10, just trying to figure out about not having signal on main display but does on external but so far works, didn't have none of those issues you mentioned but I guess we all experience different things
Did you install the patched AppleGrahicsControl.kexts on Page 1. This is needed on the AMD cards as well. Not sure why you only have Display output on the External display and not the internal Display. Usually that's a hardware issue. Is the internal Display detected in System Profiler? Or show up in System Preferences/Displays?
 
They work, they have no Backlight control with OpenCore. So we don't talk about them anymore. I have a k2000m. It's an okay card, I just don't use it anymore due to lack of Brightness control. If an updated ROM was created for the 765m/770m/k1000m/k2000m they would be recommend again.

Thanks for the hints!
So I think I will go for the K2100M.

What I haven't figured out so far...OpenCore is absolutely needed for brightness and/or bootscreen? Or will both also work without the 3rd party bootloader?
 
Must be DELL cards
Btw I didn't even know you were one of the collaborators on this topic, obviously you've done alot more work and thanks for that cause otherwise we weren't here talking, I just though you were a regular user trying to install an HP card and I tried to help from what I read on the begining lol sorry about the misundertandig
 
Did you install the patched AppleGrahicsControl.kexts on Page 1. This is needed on the AMD cards as well. Not sure why you only have Display output on the External display and not the internal Display. Usually that's a hardware issue. Is the internal Display detected in System Profiler? Or show up in System Preferences/Displays?
I actually broke the lcd cable and waiting for a replacement, I hope this was the issue since the locks on the ends were broken alot before but was still working, about the .kexts yes I did install them on the openCore flashDrive, I just have finger crossed this is all about the lcd cable, btw I was having perfect graphic acceleration on Sierra but on catalina it was extremely slow, I was told to reset the PRAM but Ill do it as soon I get home just with the external monitor
 
Thanks for the hints!
So I think I will go for the K2100M.

What I haven't figured out so far...OpenCore is absolutely needed for brightness and/or bootscreen? Or will both also work without the 3rd party bootloader?
So withe the MXM-B cards they are all based on the older @Nick [D]vB VBIOS which has a delay on boot that doesn't line up with the faster EFI instant on time of the iMac's. Because of this, the boot screen will only show up if the ALT/Option key is pressed, or OpenCore is set as your Primary boot loader. It's still extremely nice to have AppleBootPicker/TargetDiskMode as you'll soon find out with Big Sur.

My recommendation is to have OpenCore on an SD card set as your primary boot device. That way you will always have some kind of boot screen and brightness control again.
 
Yes exactly it is this listing. I messaged the seller to ask about compatibility and he said it won't work. However that contradicts the success story of Nguyen Duc Hieu. I am tempted to take a punt on this - the sluggish GPU performance is killing me.

If it worked for Nguyen Duc Hieu wh would it not work in my case. Is the card he used not the same?

You think the seller knows the answer? 😝
there is no guarantee if any WX4150 card will work on iMac, because it's not official, and still not known yet to 100%.

you've to do the risk, Nguyen Duc Hieu was succeeded, and highvoltage12v didn't succeed (which has high experience) in with both blue card with white hp logo 109-C98581-10_02.

IMG_0024.jpg


So I don't have any ideas....
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nguyen Duc Hieu
I actually broke the lcd cable and waiting for a replacement, I hope this was the issue since the locks on the ends were broken alot before but was still working, about the .kexts yes I did install them on the openCore flashDrive, I just have finger crossed this is all about the lcd cable, btw I was having perfect graphic acceleration on Sierra but on catalina it was extremely slow, I was told to reset the PRAM but Ill do it as soon I get home just with the external monitor
AppleGraphicsControl is a system kext and cannot go in the /kexts folder of OpenCore, it needs to be installed by the following sequence
1. open terminal enter
Code:
sudo mount -uw /
Killall Finder
2. download Kext Utility http://cvad-mac.narod.ru/index/0-4
3. drag the AppleGraphicsControl.kext onto Kext Utility icon to install. let it time out with an Error
4. Open Terminal again and enter "sudo reboot"

For anyone else reading this, I'll be posting the 10.15.7 AppleGraphicsControl.kext in a minute.
 
Last edited:
You think the seller knows the answer? 😝
there is no guarantee if any WX4150 card will work on iMac, because it's not official, and still not known yet to 100%.

you've to do the risk, Nguyen Duc Hieu was succeeded, and highvoltage12v didn't succeed (which has high experience) in with both blue card with white hp logo 109-C98581-10_02.

View attachment 961851

So I don't have any ideas....
I need to get ahold of a 2010 27" iMac, it has a track record of working with any WX7100 card installed in it. It all comes down to whether the SMC likes what it sees in the MXM slot. I think the 2010 27" iMac just doesn't care what card is installed. It's an interesting phenomenon. Again 3 iMacs I tried, the 2010 21.5" had the most success, but it still crashes the SMC (all fans at 100% cpu throttled down to 800MHz) once a Benchmark is started.
 
Yes exactly it is this listing. I messaged the seller to ask about compatibility and he said it won't work. However that contradicts the success story of Nguyen Duc Hieu. I am tempted to take a punt on this - the sluggish GPU performance is killing me.

If it worked for Nguyen Duc Hieu wh would it not work in my case. Is the card he used not the same?

Boy, I did not buy from that eBay listing directly. I saw that ebay item too, but shipping cost if buying directly was too high. ( 100$ including shipping charge)
I bought from a local seller (Vietnam). He might buy from that ebay seller, or from another source, I didn't know.
He charged me only 70$, shipped to my door, all included, 15 days waiting.
He also offered me K3100m for the same price, which I couldn't find anywhere on eBay.
So I don't think my local seller bought from that ebay listing.
But probably they all came from the same original seller in China. We are next to China and the shipping route is different, much cheaper than the official postal services.

And please don't encourage those sellers to test the cards on iMac. If success ratio is 100%, they would simply re-list the item and tripple the price like the K610m. Check aliexpress you will see.
 
  • Like
Reactions: iPlasm
So withe the MXM-B cards they are all based on the older @Nick [D]vB VBIOS which has a delay on boot that doesn't line up with the faster EFI instant on time of the iMac's. Because of this, the boot screen will only show up if the ALT/Option key is pressed, or OpenCore is set as your Primary boot loader. It's still extremely nice to have AppleBootPicker/TargetDiskMode as you'll soon find out with Big Sur.

My recommendation is to have OpenCore on an SD card set as your primary boot device. That way you will always have some kind of boot screen and brightness control again.

Thanks again!
One last thing... this should theoretically be compatible?
Original K1100M Video Graphicscard N15P-Q1-A2 for HP Elitebook ZBOOK15 Dell M4600 M4700 M4800

Memory: 2GB
Chipset:N15P-Q1-A2
Compatibility: Dell M4600 M4700 M4800
 
Last edited:
Where did you find this information on the first post on the first page? I will fix it, just in case.

Uh, no - just somewhere in this thread.
A user mentioned a missing part/chip on the left side of HP cards which is the BIOS chip so I thought they are not compatible without being able to flash a vBIOS.
 
Uh, no somewhere in this thread.
A user mentioned a missing part/chip on the left side of HP cards which is the BIOS chip.
This was (not only) me talking specifically about the AMD WX4170 card.

All the info about working cards and limits are collected in the first post. You are free to read it. Normally all Nvidia HP cards work with the BIOS versions published here.

Please delete your wrong assumptions from your post unless other start to believe in this, too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pappl
This was (not only) me talking specifically about the AMD WX4170 card.

All the info about working cards and limits are collected in the first post. You are free to read it. Normally all Nvidia HP cards work with the BIOS versions published here.

Please delete your wrong assumptions from your post unless other start to believe in this, too.

Thanks! Deleted it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ausdauersportler
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.