My Alienware 15 r4 with a 6 core cpu running at 2.2ghz get's a cinebench score of 1175 and the fans barely came on. That is what these chips are capable of.
Just saying.
Just saying.
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Here we go: i9 vs base i7. Kind of the same results.
As I have expected the i9 to throttle a lot I went with the mid-range, higher clocked i7. Guess once a fan-curve update is out, the higher clocked i7 will perform just as the i9.
My Alienware 15 r4 with a 6 core cpu running at 2.2ghz get's a cinebench score of 1175 and the fans barely came on. Just saying.
That’s *exactly* what I’m hoping for soon.
My Alienware 15 r4 with a 6 core cpu running at 2.2ghz get's a cinebench score of 1175 and the fans barely came on. That is what these chips are capable of.
Just saying.
Can anyone recommend which software I can use on Windows 10 to benchmark my workflow, so I can accurately determine which MBP model will be better suited to my needs? I believe Task Manager can monitor most things, other than CPU throttling?
I just ran it on my PowerSpec 1510 w/ 7700HQ & GTX 1070.
718 CPU score. The CPU boosted to 3.4Ghz for the CPU test, max temp 68C, and it boosted to 3.5Ghz for the OpenGL test with temps in the mid to high 50's. That was with the fans under automatic control, which kept them far below max.
There's really no excuse for the level of throttling these Macs are showing. None at all.
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Intel Power Gadget works the same on both Macs and Windows machines, and it'll show you the CPU frequency and temperatures in real time.
If you're going to be working in Windows you should read about undervolting. It might sound scary, but it's really not. Intel XTU and Throttlestop are both capable and not that hard to use. There are tutorials all over the place. Intel has to set the voltages for these CPUs based on the worst-case scenario for how much voltage it takes on average to run a given generation of CPU at a given frequency. They tend to err on the high side in the name of stability, meaning that unless you get very unlucky there is almost always a lot of room for improvement since your CPU is being fed a voltage that only the very worst CPU should actually need.
Hey guys, I've been lurking in this forum for a while but decided to join just now as I am looking for a new laptop. When I saw the specs of new MacBook models I was very close to ordering the i9 model straight away, now I'm glad I waited to read the reviews first. I am still looking at one of the i7 models and I didn't hear much about the 2.6 GHz i7 model, most benchmarks I've seen are on 2.2 GHz i7 (which seems too slow) and on i9 model (which unfortunately throttles too much). Are there any benchmarks of that model?
I will mostly be using it for programming - Running an Android/iPhone emulator or Node/Java server in the background and occasionaly compiling an app (keep in mind that some apps I work on take over 3 minutes to compile). Seeing how the i9 throttles below 2.9 GHz even in a 1-minute test I don't have high hopes for it.
Is there anybody here who has one of the 2018 15-inch MacBooks and uses it for similar purposes (light background usage with occasional 2-3 minutes under 100% CPU load)? What are your experiences? How long does it take for the laptop to start throttling? How hot does it run in general under low stress?
Uh, what? The 2.2 GHz i7 is blistering fast. It's faster than the top-of-the-line 2017 15" Core i7 MacBook Pro.Hey guys, I've been lurking in this forum for a while but decided to join just now as I am looking for a new laptop. When I saw the specs of new MacBook models I was very close to ordering the i9 model straight away, now I'm glad I waited to read the reviews first. I am still looking at one of the i7 models and I didn't hear much about the 2.6 GHz i7 model, most benchmarks I've seen are on 2.2 GHz i7 (which seems too slow) and on i9 model (which unfortunately throttles too much). Are there any benchmarks of that model?
I need a powerful laptop for more than just that, but that is what I will be using it for 80% of the time so I want it to run without overheating for at least those tasks.Why would you buy a mac for those tasks, especially this mac? Get a thinkpad man.
You mean 2.2 GHz i7? It is faster than top-of-the-line model only because the i9 throttles so much. Are you saying that it is faster than 2.6 GHz as well? That would make no sense, and mean that Apple really screwed up with these models.Uh, what? The 2.2 GHz i5 is blistering fast. It's faster than the top-of-the-line 2017 15" Core i7 MacBook Pro.
Hey guys, I've been lurking in this forum for a while but decided to join just now as I am looking for a new laptop. When I saw the specs of new MacBook models I was very close to ordering the i9 model straight away, now I'm glad I waited to read the reviews first. I am still looking at one of the i7 models and I didn't hear much about the 2.6 GHz i7 model, most benchmarks I've seen are on 2.2 GHz i7 (which seems too slow) and on i9 model (which unfortunately throttles too much). Are there any benchmarks of that model?
I will mostly be using it for programming - Running an Android/iPhone emulator or Node/Java server in the background and occasionaly compiling an app (keep in mind that some apps I work on take over 3 minutes to compile). Seeing how the i9 throttles below 2.9 GHz even in a 1-minute test I don't have high hopes for it.
Is there anybody here who has one of the 2018 15-inch MacBooks and uses it for similar purposes (light background usage with occasional 2-3 minutes under 100% CPU load)? What are your experiences? How long does it take for the laptop to start throttling? How hot does it run in general under low stress?
I need a powerful laptop for more than just that, but that is what I will be using it for 80% of the time so I want it to run without overheating for at least those tasks.
For more intensive tasks I will be leaving it under the AC anyway.
You mean 2.2 GHz i7? It is faster than top-of-the-line model only because the i9 throttles so much. Are you saying that it is faster than 2.6 GHz as well? That would make no sense, and mean that Apple really screwed up with these models.
There's plenty of info about 2.2 GHz i7 and the i9, but nothing about 2.6 GHz i7. And since I will be getting 512 GB and a 560x GPU I might as well get the higher-clocked CPU for $100. That's why I asked about that specific model.There’s plenty earlier in the thread about the 2.2 i7.
Essentially it runs fine and maintains the 2.2 as supposed to. If you’re doing general tasks and only occasionally pushing it, it’ll be more than fine. Especially if you’re not invoking the GPU which adds to the temperature and thus compromises how quickly the CPU throttles and performs.
I’m looking at one of these, for FCPX and RAWs in Lightroom and I’m almost certainly going for the i7 2.2 with the 560x and 32gb options. No point paying 50% more for ~7% real world extra performance because of extreme throttling.
Great, that's exactly what I want to see.Max Yuryev just got the i7 2.2 and 2.6 models and he’s going to do tests along with the i9 he has.
Will be interesting and we’ll have some direct comparisons to base decisions off.
No, I mean the 2018 2.2 GHz i7 is faster than the top of the line 2017 model.I need a powerful laptop for more than just that, but that is what I will be using it for 80% of the time so I want it to run without overheating for at least those tasks.
For more intensive tasks I will be leaving it under the AC anyway.
You mean 2.2 GHz i7? It is faster than top-of-the-line model only because the i9 throttles so much. Are you saying that it is faster than 2.6 GHz as well? That would make no sense, and mean that Apple really screwed up with these models.
Max Yuryev just got the i7 2.2 and 2.6 models and he’s going to do tests along with the i9 he has.
Will be interesting and we’ll have some direct comparisons to base decisions off.
Hey guys, I've been lurking in this forum for a while but decided to join just now as I am looking for a new laptop. When I saw the specs of new MacBook models I was very close to ordering the i9 model straight away, now I'm glad I waited to read the reviews first. I am still looking at one of the i7 models and I didn't hear much about the 2.6 GHz i7 model, most benchmarks I've seen are on 2.2 GHz i7 (which seems too slow) and on i9 model (which unfortunately throttles too much). Are there any benchmarks of that model?
I will mostly be using it for programming - Running an Android/iPhone emulator or Node/Java server in the background and occasionaly compiling an app (keep in mind that some apps I work on take over 3 minutes to compile). Seeing how the i9 throttles below 2.9 GHz even in a 1-minute test I don't have high hopes for it.
Is there anybody here who has one of the 2018 15-inch MacBooks and uses it for similar purposes (light background usage with occasional 2-3 minutes under 100% CPU load)? What are your experiences? How long does it take for the laptop to start throttling? How hot does it run in general under low stress?
No, I mean the 2018 2.2 GHz i7 is faster than the top of the line 2017 model.
Just because the 2.2 is the entry level 15" this year doesn't make it slow.
Corrected the i5 to i7.In your post you said i5 2.2 GHz model, which doesn't exist.
I know that model is not slow, what I wanted to know is whether 2.6 GHz i7 or i9 are faster for my use-cases and if any of them is even worth it as opposed to a getting a Windows laptop and waiting for 2019 models.
Hey guys, I've been lurking in this forum for a while but decided to join just now as I am looking for a new laptop. When I saw the specs of new MacBook models I was very close to ordering the i9 model straight away, now I'm glad I waited to read the reviews first. I am still looking at one of the i7 models and I didn't hear much about the 2.6 GHz i7 model, most benchmarks I've seen are on 2.2 GHz i7 (which seems too slow) and on i9 model (which unfortunately throttles too much). Are there any benchmarks of that model?
I will mostly be using it for programming - Running an Android/iPhone emulator or Node/Java server in the background and occasionaly compiling an app (keep in mind that some apps I work on take over 3 minutes to compile). Seeing how the i9 throttles below 2.9 GHz even in a 1-minute test I don't have high hopes for it.
Is there anybody here who has one of the 2018 15-inch MacBooks and uses it for similar purposes (light background usage with occasional 2-3 minutes under 100% CPU load)? What are your experiences? How long does it take for the laptop to start throttling? How hot does it run in general under low stress?
I will be getting 512 GB and a 560x GPU anyway so for $100 I might as well get the higher-clocked CPU unless it throttles just as bad.Corrected the i7.
Even without throttling the 2.6 is only about 5-10% faster than 2.2.
My Alienware 15 r4 with a 6 core cpu running at 2.2ghz get's a cinebench score of 1175 and the fans barely came on. That is what these chips are capable of.
Just saying.