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2018 i9 MacBook Pro throttling discussion [merged]
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Ah...nope. I think this has been discussed. It isn’t a hardware issue per se but an issue with how the firmware is handing this new hotter CPU. I won’t go into detail as it is now all over the forums.
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If I were you, I would.
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Wait it sticks? If it sticks then that isn’t right and send it back. Could you elaborate or desribe what you mean? About the delete key sounding louder, it’s been discussed in the forums before that this seems to be the common case but it’s not like significantly louder right?
Okay i was seriously considering i9 for audio (logic pro x mostly), my 2012 quadcore rMBP is hitting its ceiling and i was waiting for a 6-core to get significantly more processing power as I do now (as well as 32GB RAM for sample libs).
Throttle can cause audio dropouts... I had a preorder on i9 but pulled back.
I'm gonna wait a week or two now and then order it if what you say really is true, and i9 can be made to consistently maintain at least base clock.
Not sure we can call it a VRM over-heat just yet but it is one of the two leading theories given the results when tweaked. The other related theory is that the system upper power limits are being challenged, especially when temperatures are at their highest. This second related theory would explain the rapid collapse in CPU frequency, well before thermal inertia is overcome.
(hey first time poster here 
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I've been needing a new Macbook to replace my trustworthy 2011 13 MBP and put an order for the 2018 15 i9 which I'll be expecting tomorrow.
I'm a web developer, so don't really do any video editing or intense rendering tasks to speak of. Should I be worried because of these throttling issues? Granted, I could have easily gone for the 2.6 i7 or even the base i7 and I probably would have been more than OK, but went for the top spec because it was still within my budget, and out of habit I tend to go for the most souped out specs for my tech, with the idea it would probably last me longer. Another reason I went for the i9 is because the a higher base clock speed does in fact give me quicker performance for my short-burst tasks such as running terminal commands, tests, querying databases and compiling code. All these little things add up for me to save a considerable amount of time.I also went for 32GB ram (I use a lot of virtual machines) and 512gb SSD (I don't deal with large files at all so I figured I'd be OK).
My only concern is with the throttling issues on i9, would I expect my shelf life of my new machine to take a hit? Or should I be OK since I don't think I'll be stressing it to the point it would need to throttle hence my machine should stay mostly cool for what I use it for?
Thanks
)I've been needing a new Macbook to replace my trustworthy 2011 13 MBP and put an order for the 2018 15 i9 which I'll be expecting tomorrow.
I'm a web developer, so don't really do any video editing or intense rendering tasks to speak of. Should I be worried because of these throttling issues? Granted, I could have easily gone for the 2.6 i7 or even the base i7 and I probably would have been more than OK, but went for the top spec because it was still within my budget, and out of habit I tend to go for the most souped out specs for my tech, with the idea it would probably last me longer. Another reason I went for the i9 is because the a higher base clock speed does in fact give me quicker performance for my short-burst tasks such as running terminal commands, tests, querying databases and compiling code. All these little things add up for me to save a considerable amount of time.I also went for 32GB ram (I use a lot of virtual machines) and 512gb SSD (I don't deal with large files at all so I figured I'd be OK).
My only concern is with the throttling issues on i9, would I expect my shelf life of my new machine to take a hit? Or should I be OK since I don't think I'll be stressing it to the point it would need to throttle hence my machine should stay mostly cool for what I use it for?
Thanks
Me three! I ordered my i9/32GB/1TB/560X at 3:30 pm PDT on July 12. At first my order status said “This item will take longer than usual to ship. As soon as it’s ready, we’ll send you an update and prepare the shipment.”
On Friday, July 20 the status changed to just “As soon as the item is ready, we’ll send you an update and prepare the shipment.”
The delivery estimate is still “Jul 20 - Jul 27”. I’m starting to worry, hehe.
Maybe I’ll call today and ask them about it.
Anyway, I’m hopeful Apple will address the throttling issues soon. If not it looks like some smart members of this community have figured some things out that can help.
I am definitely thinking they have halted production while they work out what they are going to do. If you do call them please let us know what they say. My estimate was 24th - 31st.
If you go to Apple's site, none of the Apple stores near me have any in stock for pickup, or any in the region in fact. All locations say delivery in August. I just ordered one to be shipped to home, and that too, shows an early August delivery. So I think you are probably right.
Lots of them say 8th Aug for me, but if I select i9 / 32Gb / 1Tb there are plenty of those around.
And then there are these reports from outside the U.S.:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/916owe/stores_in_my_country_stopped_advertising_the_2018/
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/916owe/stores_in_my_country_stopped_advertising_the_2018/
Hmmm - that's strange - I ordered in the UK an i9/32gb/2tb on the 13th and it's due for delivery from UPS tomorrow?
My 15" i9, 16Gb, 1TB just arrived today and I'll be setting it up remotely while I'm in Europe for the summer. While I was mildly concerned with the number of posts I was seeing pop on MacRumors and Reddit, I rarely pay attention to Youtube reviews as I find most veer toward sensationalism within the realms of complete amateur reporting. I know Apple products, and I know there are constant issues across the wider computing world that happen almost weekly. The cost of an Apple product is not prohibitive but the hardware is a necessity to the photography/video studio I own within the Adobe / Capture One / MacOS ecosystem(s).
Sure, it's mildly alarming but nothing new. I've seen these headlines almost weekly, whether it's coming from Apple, Asus, Broncolor, Canon, Dell, Elinchrom, Hasselblad, Leica, Nikon, Profoto, Samsung, Sonos, Sony, Yamaha, or any of the other brands we have lying around the office and at home. Apple will either issue a software fix via update or if it turns into a 2011 MBP GPU meltdown again, we'll be looking at 5 more years of free logic board replacements. Meh. So the wheels turn, life goes on and we all get work done a little faster and more efficiently (while Adobe software forever grows more and more bloated than before.).
Thanks, Apple (and others), for rushing to get us products that are iterative, rarely-but-at-times-so ground-breaking, aesthetically pleasing but at what are reasonably acceptable rates of failure. That's all I expect and am willing to pay for. And I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve ever chosen to render the final output for a serious job, be it stills or video, on a laptop over the last 10 years.
We have desktops for that task, let’s not forget.
Sure, it's mildly alarming but nothing new. I've seen these headlines almost weekly, whether it's coming from Apple, Asus, Broncolor, Canon, Dell, Elinchrom, Hasselblad, Leica, Nikon, Profoto, Samsung, Sonos, Sony, Yamaha, or any of the other brands we have lying around the office and at home. Apple will either issue a software fix via update or if it turns into a 2011 MBP GPU meltdown again, we'll be looking at 5 more years of free logic board replacements. Meh. So the wheels turn, life goes on and we all get work done a little faster and more efficiently (while Adobe software forever grows more and more bloated than before.).
Thanks, Apple (and others), for rushing to get us products that are iterative, rarely-but-at-times-so ground-breaking, aesthetically pleasing but at what are reasonably acceptable rates of failure. That's all I expect and am willing to pay for. And I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve ever chosen to render the final output for a serious job, be it stills or video, on a laptop over the last 10 years.
We have desktops for that task, let’s not forget.
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Yep me too. Ordered it on the 14th and also expecting it tomorrow via UPS.
LOL... know what you mean. In my case I think I am the jinx... last time I ordered a Macbook Pro there was that bloody ash cloud in Europe that halted all flights, including the one carrying my Macbook!
There’s no jinx, there’s no curse. When it arrives, it arrives. Never understood the nail-chewing, questioning posts of ‘when will it arrive / should I cancel my order’ posts that crop up every year, 6 months, every...day. I suppose living in close proximity to the factories means my wait time is a fraction of those in the EU / USA.
But that said, when it does arrive, enjoy that open a new toy smell to your heart’s content!
From the many youtube videos, forums posts I am confident in your use case it will be a beast of a machine. Even with temporary throttling it would perform just fine.(hey first time poster here
I've been needing a new Macbook to replace my trustworthy 2011 13 MBP and put an order for the 2018 15 i9 which I'll be expecting tomorrow.
I'm a web developer, so don't really do any video editing or intense rendering tasks to speak of. Should I be worried because of these throttling issues? Granted, I could have easily gone for the 2.6 i7 or even the base i7 and I probably would have been more than OK, but went for the top spec because it was still within my budget, and out of habit I tend to go for the most souped out specs for my tech, with the idea it would probably last me longer. Another reason I went for the i9 is because the a higher base clock speed does in fact give me quicker performance for my short-burst tasks such as running terminal commands, tests, querying databases and compiling code. All these little things add up for me to save a considerable amount of time.I also went for 32GB ram (I use a lot of virtual machines) and 512gb SSD (I don't deal with large files at all so I figured I'd be OK).
My only concern is with the throttling issues on i9, would I expect my shelf life of my new machine to take a hit? Or should I be OK since I don't think I'll be stressing it to the point it would need to throttle hence my machine should stay mostly cool for what I use it for?
Thanks
Plenty of people would complain about the increase in size and weight. The systems that do very well with the i9, not just OK, tend to be quite a bit thicker, heavier, and noisier than the MBP.
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Gaming laptops do do well with the i9 and even GTX 1070s. But, realistically that is a different buyer than a MBP. And the bottom line is all laptop are a compromise. Pick the compromises you are willing and not willing to make and get a system that matches.
Then those people should use a MacBook instead of a MacBook Pro. It makes little sense to put a high end processor into a form factor which cannot accommodate it. My top of the line 2012 rMBP has no problem maintaining its minimum clock speed while at full utilization. But then it's a larger system which can sufficiently dissipate the heat it generates.