Xeon sounds plenty fancy to me.
Someone should stick that reddit post in a new thread/get it stickied tbh.
The reddit author already has! https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-explanation-of-apples-engineering-f.2128936/Someone should stick that reddit post in a new thread/get it stickied tbh.
another comprehensive review of throttling and Volta usage.You're WELCOME
Definitely wait for the end. This guy is EPIC
Ouch
The reddit author already has! https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-explanation-of-apples-engineering-f.2128936/
Nah, pretty sure heat sink size is independent of fan size. It would not be unlike the current situation with apple putting a processor in a 50W TDP chassis even though it can pull 125W peak load. Except the results would be better I'm sure.
Not a fan of him, but one video recently that hit the nail on the head was- it is basically how Apple can get away with making mistakes and have their user base defend them against anyone who mentions such failure - similar to an abused girlfriend situation who blames everyone but their abuser. Meanwhile, any other company would be burnt at the stake.
So why do we have this emotional attachment to Apple, which other companies don’t seem to get the benefit of?
I think it is two fold.
1) Apple market products to your emotions, not strictly need or functionality. I was working as a dev for one of the major automotive car companies and part of their strategy was to become like Apple and market to emotions, they wanted people to but their products as an emotional driven event.
The idea is, if someone becomes emotionally involved with a product, things like price, or issues, or lack of capabilities compared to the competition become irrelevant. We all have certain brands or products we naturally have an affinity to, even though there seem to be logical better alternatives.
2) One of the main selling points of Apple is the ecosystem - the idea that you can have multiple products that seamlessly integrate. It is great and it is the kind of thing that makes you want to buy an Apple TV even though you’d be better served by maybe a Roku, it’s what’s makes you buy an Apple Watch when you don’t even like watches (I’m guilty). People who never used a MacBook now suddenly think maybe it’d be nice to buy one and have it sync with your iPhone.
Lack of functionality, issues or defects all kill the dream of this ecosystem. You’ll see in the various threads where people are doing such crazy work arounds or trying to justify or defend basic lack of functionality that should be expected - because hey, no one wants to feel like the ecosystem is broken. It’s sometbnng even I find I do myself.
@Apple, you got something that most companies don’t, that is there is a huge fan base who are wanting you to succeed - they don’t see you as a corporation, they treat you like their favourite sports team and make excusss on your behalf.
Please, start doing better, not just on the MacBook but even on Siri, AppleTV, HomePod, Touchbar (glitches), HomeKit etc. Last few years feels like we are being treated like beta testers and being drip fed features and fixes (if at all).
No. If you increase the volume from which you want to draw heat, you need to increase airflow. You can do this by increasing pressure, but that means more RPM and thus more noise. The easiest way is increase fan area using a larger diameter fan and get more airflow volume per revolution of the fan.
So because the CPUs are hotter and the fans are slower immediately means less performance? Oh gosh...someone smack me in the face. Lol
Not a fan of him, but one video recently that hit the nail on the head was- it is basically how Apple can get away with making mistakes and have their user base defend them against anyone who mentions such failure - similar to an abused girlfriend situation who blames everyone but their abuser. Meanwhile, any other company would be burnt at the stake.
So why do we have this emotional attachment to Apple, which other companies don’t seem to get the benefit of?
I think it is two fold.
1) Apple market products to your emotions, not strictly need or functionality. I was working as a dev for one of the major automotive car companies and part of their strategy was to become like Apple and market to emotions, they wanted people to but their products as an emotional driven event.
The idea is, if someone becomes emotionally involved with a product, things like price, or issues, or lack of capabilities compared to the competition become irrelevant. We all have certain brands or products we naturally have an affinity to, even though there seem to be logical better alternatives.
2) One of the main selling points of Apple is the ecosystem - the idea that you can have multiple products that seamlessly integrate. It is great and it is the kind of thing that makes you want to buy an Apple TV even though you’d be better served by maybe a Roku, it’s what’s makes you buy an Apple Watch when you don’t even like watches (I’m guilty). People who never used a MacBook now suddenly think maybe it’d be nice to buy one and have it sync with your iPhone.
Lack of functionality, issues or defects all kill the dream of this ecosystem. You’ll see in the various threads where people are doing such crazy work arounds or trying to justify or defend basic lack of functionality that should be expected - because hey, no one wants to feel like the ecosystem is broken. It’s sometbnng even I find I do myself.
@Apple, you got something that most companies don’t, that is there is a huge fan base who are wanting you to succeed - they don’t see you as a corporation, they treat you like their favourite sports team and make excusss on your behalf.
Please, start doing better, not just on the MacBook but even on Siri, AppleTV, HomePod, Touchbar (glitches), HomeKit etc. Last few years feels like we are being treated like beta testers and being drip fed features and fixes (if at all).
Video previously posted but here's a screenshot from it with the max fan. i9 already faster in basically everything he tested (except premiere) but the max fans showed a pretty big boost. My 2015 maxes out fans anytime I render something intensive... so doesn't bug me at all to crank'em up myself if need be to gain some speed.
Good video, but I still want to see a comparison with the 2.GHz 2018 model.
This guy is working on it. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDlQwv99CovKafGvxyaiNDA
Hear Hear!I consider myself a "fan" of apple since the days of apple iic. This issue has just sicken me. I'm so upset about how apple has been treating it's user lately. I'm even more sicken by some of the blind defense of apple's behavior. Just reading some of the post on this thread has me embarrassed to call myself a apple fan...
another comprehensive review of throttling and Volta usage.
This sort of review bore me. Just rehashing whatever info he got from people who did all the hard work plus 80% of his own opinions.
Jon’s new video is up!
Uh ? Jon say's Mid Tier 6 Core model is Best Bang for your Buck ! But does he mean the i7 Processor Model? or the i9 Processor Model ? Because both are 6 Core right ?