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nielsandersen

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I fixed the problem with overheating with the Dell D6000 dock station which was using DisplayLink. Everything is fine, but HiDPI mode is not working, even with SwitchResX or RDM. Guys from DisplayLink know about it, and maybe they fix it in new versions of their driver. View attachment 1755256

I have the same setup as you with the Dell D6000. I'm using a little utility called Display Menu to control resolutions on my monitors. I have access to the HiDPI resolutions in this way. Hope it can help.
 

Spectra456

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Mar 29, 2021
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I have the same setup as you with the Dell D6000. I'm using a little utility called Display Menu to control resolutions on my monitors. I have access to the HiDPI resolutions in this way. Hope it can help.
Hmm, I tried every software to fix it, but it just shows my Dell UP2616D in mac settings like 'unknown display' without any HiDPI resolutions((. Same with HDMI and DP.
 

PanchiDP

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Apr 14, 2021
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I have the same issue, do you think this would be solved with the Silicon Valley processors?
 

mikles450

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Apr 18, 2021
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Hi guys!

I have a 16'' MBP from 2019. It is i9, 32 GB RAM with Radeon Pro 5300M. Whenever I connect it to external monitor(LG 35'' ultrawide, 3440x1600, with usb-c hub) via USB-C it is getting much hotter and the fans are spinning much faster when I do my daily things like compiling the code, running some local web servers. When I unplug it from the monitor usually the fans are much quieter and slower. When connected to LG, I am using clamshell mode, the dGPU takes 5-10W so it is not the problem of the power consumption by Radeon, right? Also, what amazes me the most is the fact that when I plug the same MBP to 2xFullHD monitors there is no problem with fans and heat. I'm not looking for the answer how to avoid this fast fans on 35'' monitor. I am just trying to understand why the problem occurs on 35'' and does not on 2xFullHD.
 

Robert Hall

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Dec 11, 2019
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I've come back to this thread multiple times over the past year. I think I'm finally going to break down and buy an eGPU.

I know the answers are buried in this thread, but GOSH 192 pages. Can anyone recommend the best less-expensive setup? Ideally, it won't require a ton of configuration to get it going. Pretend I have a budget of $400.
 

FF89

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Mar 3, 2021
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Hi guys!

I have a 16'' MBP from 2019. It is i9, 32 GB RAM with Radeon Pro 5300M. Whenever I connect it to external monitor(LG 35'' ultrawide, 3440x1600, with usb-c hub) via USB-C it is getting much hotter and the fans are spinning much faster when I do my daily things like compiling the code, running some local web servers. When I unplug it from the monitor usually the fans are much quieter and slower. When connected to LG, I am using clamshell mode, the dGPU takes 5-10W so it is not the problem of the power consumption by Radeon, right? Also, what amazes me the most is the fact that when I plug the same MBP to 2xFullHD monitors there is no problem with fans and heat. I'm not looking for the answer how to avoid this fast fans on 35'' monitor. I am just trying to understand why the problem occurs on 35'' and does not on 2xFullHD.
From my experience (in clamshell mode), dgpu only consumes low power (5-7 watt during idle) when running at standard resolution such as 720p, 1080p, and 2160p (4k) (tried on Dell U4320Q). Other resolution, immediately the dGPU will consume higher power (17-19 watt during idle).

I have also tried with 1920x1200 monitor (Dell U2415) and 2560x1440 resolution (Dell U2520D) (whether in clamshell mode or open lid, immediately the dGPU will consume higher power (17-19 watt during idle). I need to reduce the scan rate below 60 Hz to reduce the power (5-7 watt during idle) using third party apps called SwitchResX.

Although I do notice the increase in temperature at the thunderbolt proximity (around 50 degree Celcius, compare to 30 degree celcius when not connecting anything to the ports) when connected to external monitor (in clamshell mode), but it never trigger the fan to increase the RPM. The fans maintain their speed around 1800 and 1700 RPM for left and right fan, respectively, during idle which is identical to when I am not connecting my MBP to any external monitor.

The fans' rpm only increase to more than 4000 rpm (not immediately, but gradually depending on the temperature of dGPU as well) if the dGPU power at 17-19 Watt even during idle (whether in clamshell mode or open lid) which increased the temperature of the dGPU to above 60 degree Celcius, because of the different resolution as mentioned above in paragraph 2.

That is why, I conclude, the dGPU gives higher impact to the increase of fan speed based on my testing as above. I am also not push away the possibility that the cumulative effect of other temperature sensors such as the Thunderbolt proximity when connected to external display also contributed to the heating of the MBP. However, I do believe, the dGPU power contributed higher impact than the thunderbolt proximity based on the reasoning that I have given above.
 

mikles450

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Apr 18, 2021
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From my experience (in clamshell mode), dgpu only consumes low power (5-7 watt during idle) when running at standard resolution such as 720p, 1080p, and 2160p (4k) (tried on Dell U4320Q). Other resolution, immediately the dGPU will consume higher power (17-19 watt during idle).
It does not happen on my setup. My dGPU takes 5-9 W when being in clamshell mode, "doing nothing" and running on full native resolution - 3440x1600. It bumps up to 22-25W when e.g. sharing screen.

What I am struggling with is: the fans spinning up to 5200 rpm when doing some heavy CPU work. It is fine as long as the CPUs are hot(80-100 C) but it should definitely slow down the fans when CPUs are colder (50-70 C) but it does not do it on my machine. I have to wait 5-10 minutes so the fans slowly slowly go down to 1800 rpm. When being not plugged to external monitor, the fans slow down much faster(1-2 minutes).
 

FF89

macrumors newbie
Mar 3, 2021
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Malaysia
It does not happen on my setup. My dGPU takes 5-9 W when being in clamshell mode, "doing nothing" and running on full native resolution - 3440x1600. It bumps up to 22-25W when e.g. sharing screen.

What I am struggling with is: the fans spinning up to 5200 rpm when doing some heavy CPU work. It is fine as long as the CPUs are hot(80-100 C) but it should definitely slow down the fans when CPUs are colder (50-70 C) but it does not do it on my machine. I have to wait 5-10 minutes so the fans slowly slowly go down to 1800 rpm. When being not plugged to external monitor, the fans slow down much faster(1-2 minutes).
Yup. That's also happen to me under heavy work load. I think that's normal for this MBP. Although it can be modified using Macs Fan Control (as in the video
), I prefer how the default fan works for heavy work load. As long as the fans are not spinning wild during idle while connecting to the external monitor.
 

Yurk

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Apr 30, 2019
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I have now also padded the both thunderbolt controllers as well as the Video Ram, and also the VRM.

I cannot believe, the result is further improvement. Fan is much quieter both idle and under load, even with external monitors and open lid.
This looks awesome. I am also planning to try thermal pads. Could you specify what thickness of thermal pads you ordered? I am thinking of getting fujipoly 17 W/mK, 1.0 mm or 1.5 mm thick.
 

kelvincht

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Mar 8, 2021
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This looks awesome. I am also planning to try thermal pads. Could you specify what thickness of thermal pads you ordered? I am thinking of getting fujipoly 17 W/mK, 1.0 mm or 1.5 mm thick.
The recommendation is try not to use anything more than 6 W/mK because it would make the backplate too hot and potentially over heat some parts.

Both 1.5mm and 1mm works. 1mm you need 3-4 layers, where 1.5mm you only need 2-3 layers. If you have a choice go for 1.5mm.
 
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kemo

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I have now also padded the both thunderbolt controllers as well as the Video Ram, and also the VRM.

I cannot believe, the result is further improvement. Fan is much quieter both idle and under load, even with external monitors and open lid. View attachment 1754821
Would you mind sharing how much the temperatures has improved after applying the thermal pads?

Thanks,

Tom
 

kemo

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Have any1 tried to install latest 11.4 beta? There seems to be a version bump for AMD 5000 drivers.
 
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kelvincht

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Would you mind sharing how much the temperatures has improved after applying the thermal pads?

Thanks,

Tom
Heatsink temperature fully warmed up during idle with 2 external 4k monitors and lid open.

No mod = 66C, fan comes up all the time
with VRM mod = 61C, quiet during idle, fan comes up for light load
with VRM mod + thunderbolt = 61C, fan comes up with heavy load
with VRM mod + thunderbolt + small fan under back plate = 57C, fan comes up only with sustained heavy load
 
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Appledoesnotlisten

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The recommendation is try not to use anything more than 6 W/mK because it would make the backplate too hot and potentially over heat some parts.

Both 1.5mm and 1mm works. 1mm you need 3-4 layers, where 1.5mm you only need 2-3 layers. If you have a choice go for 1.5mm.
What W/mK did you use?

And what if we use 3mm instead of 1.5mm thickness?
 
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IceStormNG

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I used Arctic Thermal Pads with exactly 6 W/mK.
They work pretty good especially with my little printed standoffs that allow better cooling of the bottom plate.
 

Appledoesnotlisten

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I used Arctic Thermal Pads with exactly 6 W/mK.
They work pretty good especially with my little printed standoffs that allow better cooling of the bottom plate.
Thanks.
I am using these pads, I stack 3-4 of them up and they won pretty well.
 

IceStormNG

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I am using these pads, I stack 3-4 of them up and they won pretty well.
You sure? These are not thermal pads but generic rubber pads. The stuff might melt on the VRMs
 
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