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GanleyGanley

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May 10, 2014
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SOLVED: Well. Sort of. I plugged my monitor in HDMI instead of thunderbolt (2013 15" MBP) and 90% of the fan and lagging issues stopped. Sucks, but I don't need crazy resolution so it's okay I guess.
 

tbobmccoy

macrumors 6502a
Jul 24, 2007
969
219
Austin, TX
Guys, i sold my 16 MBP almost a year ago for an 13" M1 MBA and randomly stepped in this old thread i used to read regularly. Im happy, that theres finally a solution and a bit sad that i sold the MBP 16" :)
I did a similar thing but sold for the 2021 MBP. I only miss boot camp, but otherwise my MBP is amazing. Glad to see it took Apple 2 years to solve the issue!
 

mariovilar

macrumors newbie
May 12, 2022
6
3
12.3.1 and LPM on. Also tried with LPM off. Now everyone solved the problem except me: I'm devastated :(. BTW, kernel_task at 700% when I took the screenshot.

Screenshot 2022-05-14 at 01.45.10.png
 

mo5214

macrumors regular
Sep 20, 2019
145
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12.3.1 and LPM on. Also tried with LPM off. Now everyone solved the problem except me: I'm devastated :(. BTW, kernel_task at 700% when I took the screenshot.

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For mine, the wattage was lowered only when monitors were HDMI (4K/60) (I connected mine through usb-c dock). When I tried it with a Cinema 30” (via usb-c to and then dual-link dvi adapter) it stayed at 17-19W
 
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JosquinDesprez

macrumors newbie
Oct 7, 2021
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12.3.1 and LPM on. Also tried with LPM off. Now everyone solved the problem except me: I'm devastated :(. BTW, kernel_task at 700% when I took the screenshot.
I had the same problem: 12.3.1 and very high kernel_task CPU and noisy fans, with or without LPM. I brought the MacBook to an Apple center to clean the fans and remove the internal dust, and now it works like a charm with LPM off!
 
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mariovilar

macrumors newbie
May 12, 2022
6
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Havw you tried a different monitor? same result?
That's the problem: it seems to work okay with other monitors (it was a Samsung), at least fan-wise and kernel_task-wise —I didn't check power withdrawal from GPU. Trying this morning with another one to confirm and editing this message.

For mine, the wattage was lowered only when monitors were HDMI (4K/60) (I connected mine through usb-c dock). When I tried it with a Cinema 30” (via usb-c to and then dual-link dvi adapter) it stayed at 17-19W
I have an LG 29UM69G-B, it's WFHD (2560x1080), 75Hz (but capped at 60Hz). Connected it via DisplayPort to USB-c and HDMI to USB-c. LPM on and off. Still the same.

I had the same problem: 12.3.1 and very high kernel_task CPU and noisy fans, with or without LPM. I brought the MacBook to an Apple center to clean the fans and remove the internal dust, and now it works like a charm with LPM off!
Yeah, that's what I thought a couple of weeks ago, and I brought my Mac to Apple. When they gave it back after some tests I specifically asked about internal cleaning and they said that yes, they did it. Still the same.
 
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mariovilar

macrumors newbie
May 12, 2022
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That's the problem: it seems to work okay with other monitors (it was a Samsung), at least fan-wise and kernel_task-wise —I didn't check power withdrawal from GPU. Trying this morning with another one to confirm and editing this message.


I have an LG 29UM69G-B, it's WFHD (2560x1080), 75Hz (but capped at 60Hz). Connected it via DisplayPort to USB-c and HDMI to USB-c. LPM on and off. Still the same.


Yeah, that's what I thought a couple of weeks ago, and I brought my Mac to Apple. When they gave it back after some tests I specifically asked about internal cleaning and they said that yes, they did it. Still the same.
Yes, confirmed, Samsung screen seems to work nicely:

Screenshot 2022-05-21 at 11.38.18.png


Looking forward to talk with LG and hoping they offer me a solution. I think it's my last option, it seems like Apple has nothing to do with my problem.
 

icebergz

macrumors newbie
May 23, 2022
2
1
I Upgraded to 12.4 by mistake and now the problem is back!
I'm not sure if it is because the temperature outside is hotter now or because of the OS.
 
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leonchu1225

macrumors newbie
Oct 15, 2020
12
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I Upgraded to 12.4 by mistake and now the problem is back!
I'm not sure if it is because the temperature outside is hotter now or because of the OS.
Mine still ok after 12.4. I still need to check all the time if i'm on Variable Fresh Rate though. VFR will draw 18w+. Fix to 60 Hz will draw 6 to 10w.

A bit annoying but already much better than before.
 

Yurk

macrumors member
Apr 30, 2019
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Seeing everyone say that the new OS update fixed the issue, but I still seem to be having it. Is the issue fixed with LPM off for you guys?

I'm currently running in clamshell mode going out to 1 4k LG 27UL650 and 1 Acer 1080P display. Both at 60Hz. My GPU with LPM off hovers between 15.5-18W. My temperature at idle is between 135F-145F.
Can you try plugging in the power cable on the right side and the display cable on the left side? I noticed a reduction in temperatures if I do that.
 

eddielovesyou

macrumors newbie
Jun 30, 2022
2
0
I had been holding off on Monterey but after seeing that they seemed to have fixed the issue in 12.3 I finally updated (to 12.4). Unfortunately I still get 19-20W GPU when plugged in my CalDigit TS3 dock > DisplayPort monitor. If I lower the external monitor resolution to 1080p or run in clamshell mode the GPU power consumption goes way down.

I've tried toggling LPM, restarting, etc. Anything else to try?

Radeon 5500M 8GB, monitor is Scepter Q32 2560x1440
 

eddielovesyou

macrumors newbie
Jun 30, 2022
2
0
Ok a little more info and possible workaround:

The refresh rate options for my external monitor were 59.5, 75, and 85Hz. No setting had an effect on the 19W GPU draw. I installed SwitchResX and created a custom resolution forcing 60Hz exactly; when I switch to that power consumption goes down! To like 7-9W with LPM off.

I also tried every combination of enabling "Overdrive" and "Adaptive Sync" options on my monitor; no change, though the latter did give me a Variable Refresh Rate option that didn't help.

So do I need to buy SwitchResX or is there another way to force 60Hz refresh rate?
 
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