If you consider the blooming to be a “defect”, then you might as well call the low contrast ratio of all other iPads a “defect.”
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iPad Pro 2021 12.9 Screen Shadow
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They are yellow, as you can see here. So either the screen is defect or simply ****.
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I would ask for replacement. It is a pain but it isn’t exactly a cheap device - shouldn’t come damaged out of the box (even so slightly).
I did the same, but no difference. Look at the post above.
Well it looks like this issue is going to happen across the board not overly impressed, this coupled with the fact mine came with an imperfection, I think I am going to return to the retailer and get the 2020 version.
Yeah the M1 is great but is it really needed I don’t know… centre stage is what I will be gutted loosing though. Ugggggh!
Best part is I knew in my heart that this display was going to be riddled with issues being a first gen product… bit gutted but you live and learn.
That thick border effect in the last part of the video is what I had and what got fixed by my restart of the iPad after upgrading to 14.5.1
I don’t have mine in hand yet so I don’t know about the shadow along the edges but the blooming seems to be interesting. When in settings and watching the movie, you couldn’t see it. When he drew the shapes you could see that there were far too many dimming zones in use for what little line there was. Is it possible that they could tighten up the dimming zones and reduce this issue with a software update?
I spent the last 4 years with a white iPad Pro 10.5” with a black pinstripe between the bezel and the screen content. I’m already over the shadow around the edges now I know it’s a “feature” rather than a defect.
I don’t know but really annoying for the moment the evening . During the day it’s good but the evening it’s obvious ;(
That’s the shadow effect on mine, I don’t know to me this display seems a bit of downgrade from the clarity of the 2020 model… I think Apple nailed it with there retina displays, this just seems a bit meh…
the shadow effect does impede on the date/time battery meters that are in the corners a bit
the shadow effect does impede on the date/time battery meters that are in the corners a bit
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side shadow is not mini-oled exclusive. i've seen it before, but i can't for the life of me remember which model was reported with the issue, was it Air 4? anyway, the guy said it looks like a subtle roll off of a screen matrix along one side, which gave a slight shadow tint because the side wasn't aligned with the plane of the rest of the screen ..
Issue with this shadowing is it is right around the screen not just on one side which suggests that the LED panels apple are using a marginally too small for the device… not sure though.
Either way, I feel this is a poor implementation of miniLED, and unfortunately it is a public BETA product… likely to get refined for upcoming macs.
So I had quite bad blooming when in a dark room with auto brightness on and at 0% (you know, like you are in your bed and you don’t want to have a light on). When in « normal » conditions (basically if there is bright enough light or during the day) no problem, the screen looks gorgeous.
Tried rebooting this morning and have a look in a dark room with no light, and I’ll say it’s seems it’s still there but much less noticeable.
Before, the transition between the light zone and the black zone was really harsh. Now it‘s much more softer.It’s an improvement.
Maybe it’s just a trick of my brain or maybe it’s definitely better ? I’ll have to use it more to say. And maybe they can fix it further with another update if they really can ?
Re shadows….. in this review, at around 12:15 he’s comparing screens, and I’m sure I see shadows on the 11 too?
it really is shameful YouTube influencers didnt mention this.
99% of them at least. Afraid of losing their Apple access? Signed a waiver saying they wouldn't get into it? Who knows. BUT
In my view it's a betrayal of their job task for the title of the video they uploaded, which is to review the iPad Pro 12.9 2021, and a betrayal of their audience especially since the display IS largely the experience of the device, the rest if running smoothly (performance, audio, battery life, etc.) just melts into the background. I don't think I'm being dramatic either. 'Reviews' have turned into 'look what showed up at my door step before launch date because I'm on Tim Santa's good list, weeeeee!' For example, Marques can notice the 0.5mm difference in thickness, but not the screen in front of his eyes?
Whether or not blooming and shadows bothers people is another thing, and beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, but to not even mention it and for people to discover it on their own, on launch day, is really incredibly lame imo
Especially since lots of people are always operating in dark mode, and blooming around text is straight up a downgrade no matter how you look at it, outlook wise or the inky blanks outside of the blowout. It's unintentional highlighter mode exclusive 2021 feature, if you want to be euphemistic about the whole thing.
I also find it kinda silly here on MR people are like 'of course mini LED blooms' - where were the threads warning people in advance this could be the case? They didn't exist and if they did, others would presume Apple with all their heavy engineering and R&D investment, figured out a way to overcome this fault/characteristic. In the same way they did with OLED's being oversaturated on Samsungs and many smartphones, and made them more realistically tuned for iPhones with their own calibration standards, something many people praised them for doing.
Not that MR people are responsible, but to say ' of course it does and we all knew this' for people who own miniLED tv's where there's 10 seconds of prefaced text (vs hours of consuming articles and websites on a tablet) really is disingenuous too, without there having been prior discussion about it. After all this isn't just a miniLED transplant, this is the Liquid Retina Display XDR
It is true they couldn't 'fix' off axis tint shift of OLED, but they are able to demand specs as they want and have manufacturers meet those specs in other ways generally speaking. This is something someone not tech-y might even be able to easily see and wonder 'huh what's going on? is my screen messed up?' and that aint exactly good.
99% of them at least. Afraid of losing their Apple access? Signed a waiver saying they wouldn't get into it? Who knows. BUT
In my view it's a betrayal of their job task for the title of the video they uploaded, which is to review the iPad Pro 12.9 2021, and a betrayal of their audience especially since the display IS largely the experience of the device, the rest if running smoothly (performance, audio, battery life, etc.) just melts into the background. I don't think I'm being dramatic either. 'Reviews' have turned into 'look what showed up at my door step before launch date because I'm on Tim Santa's good list, weeeeee!' For example, Marques can notice the 0.5mm difference in thickness, but not the screen in front of his eyes?
Whether or not blooming and shadows bothers people is another thing, and beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, but to not even mention it and for people to discover it on their own, on launch day, is really incredibly lame imo
Especially since lots of people are always operating in dark mode, and blooming around text is straight up a downgrade no matter how you look at it, outlook wise or the inky blanks outside of the blowout. It's unintentional highlighter mode exclusive 2021 feature, if you want to be euphemistic about the whole thing.
I also find it kinda silly here on MR people are like 'of course mini LED blooms' - where were the threads warning people in advance this could be the case? They didn't exist and if they did, others would presume Apple with all their heavy engineering and R&D investment, figured out a way to overcome this fault/characteristic. In the same way they did with OLED's being oversaturated on Samsungs and many smartphones, and made them more realistically tuned for iPhones with their own calibration standards, something many people praised them for doing.
Not that MR people are responsible, but to say ' of course it does and we all knew this' for people who own miniLED tv's where there's 10 seconds of prefaced text (vs hours of consuming articles and websites on a tablet) really is disingenuous too, without there having been prior discussion about it. After all this isn't just a miniLED transplant, this is the Liquid Retina Display XDR
It is true they couldn't 'fix' off axis tint shift of OLED, but they are able to demand specs as they want and have manufacturers meet those specs in other ways generally speaking. This is something someone not tech-y might even be able to easily see and wonder 'huh what's going on? is my screen messed up?' and that aint exactly good.
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Glad I waited and have just visited an Apple store to get some hands on. The display on the 12.9 didn't blow me away + the shadow and screen thickness was obvious. Yes, if you need a new 12.9 today then it's the one to buy but until the M1 power is realised, stick with the your old models.
Popping back in to say that my 12.9” iPad Pro exhibits all of the mentioned issues. I noticed blooming around the Apple logo from the very first boot. I notice shadows across the edges in most productivity and web browsing activities. So far it isn’t a deal breaker. I’ve gone through setup processes, watched YouTube/Apple TV, been productive, browsed the web and so forth.
This iPad will be used for video and photo editing. From what I’ve seen so far, I think that the trade offs with this display technology will be worth it. I’ll be putting the M1 through its paces and didn’t want to settle for the current discounts on offer for the previous generation 12.9” iPad Pro.
YouTube influencers are just assisting with the marketing of goods. That is their purpose - to help hype & sell goods.
No one should ever take their reviews seriously. Occasionally a few people like MKBHD & Jonathan Morrison will point out some issues, but the rest - no chance.
MaxTech post very in-depth videos, especially relating to performance. Essentially, you always listen to people that actually paid for their hardware over those who get early access loan units.
And I’m saying that’s not good
12 clickbait videos that all can be summarized as “it’s the new apple thing! Need I say more?” Yes, you do. Considering you have access to the product we don't yet, and your judgment determines sales.
A reviewers job is to review. Otherwise its a hands on and should be titled as such.
A food reviewer shouldn't praise a restaurant because they are friends with the owner and have a personal relationship with him/her or an emotional bias towards the spot, it's where he proposed to his girlfriend. This holds no weight. They should praise the food because it's delicious. Or scold it because it's overrated microwaved crap.
Just like a scientist is designed to question virtually everything, and let data determine the conclusion, no matter how outlandish or balked at that conclusion may be - rather than look for evidence to support their already predisposed hunch.
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I watch videos from iJustine, Rene Ritchie, Jonathan Morrison, MKBHD etc just to get a really good look at the hardware. I don't necessarily take on board what they are saying when they are showcasing new hardware. Most are just covering all the bullet points on a crib sheet that Apple have encouraged them to highlight.
If you notice, they are all saying basically the same thing, just in a different order and a few with some personal opinions thrown in.
It has to be said that their videos are all of a very high standard. Just remember that when it comes to hardware 'reviews' or 'first looks' you are essentially watching adverts.
But we haven't gotten a 'really good' look at the hardware, else we would have been at least side noted about blooming and shadows. And we were not.