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Personally, I thought Fred in the AMR23 looked dam good in P2. It won’t be the racing we all yearn for, but I could see Fred giving Max a reason to be looking in his mirrors quite a bit.

W14 is still the W14.
Nah. Max will break DRS before it’s open. Be catching back markers by lap 10.
 
Why? He’s following in the great Lewis footsteps… in fact not even that as he’s not lapping 4th place every race like Lewis did they were so out in front.
Max is perfectly fine where he is, other teams will have to catch up and challenge and race him.
It's when you post things like that that I think you don't understand how F1 works...

But I get your point.
 
How dull was it when Lewis was winning all the time though? Right now the chances of other teams catching up is slim to none this season. An incident is the only way this season can get exciting, or better than it is. Alonso seems to be getting the most attention and he is not even winning races, which goes to show how eager viewers and the press are for some competitive racing.
Like we were ... for the last 30 years...? Seriously, I don't get why F1 is this way. I don't want IndyCar, or nascar, parody. I just want at least two teams to be able to race each other. I mean it's in place. How are Alpha Tauri so far out of touch? Shouldn't they be the real threat to RBR?
 
Like we were ... for the last 30 years...? Seriously, I don't get why F1 is this way. I don't want IndyCar, or nascar, parody. I just want at least two teams to be able to race each other. I mean it's in place. How are Alpha Tauri so far out of touch? Shouldn't they be the real threat to RBR?
Their main purpose is selling a clothing brand…

More seriously it mostly seems the long distance thing isn’t working
 
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What I really cannot stand is the insanity of the regulations,
1-ban the cost cap, if you cannot pay, then bugger off, it is a business, and those that can afford it, will find ways, it cheapens and dulls the sport, it is a stupid irrational illogical decision, F1 is a business, and should be run like one, it is not a league....

2- Wind tunnel time, it should be as much as you need, for as many sessions as you need, to say to Red Bull you get x number of sessions, and to McLaren you get 18x as you are useless and came 7th, you should get more time "to catch up" what is this, special olympics??? No..

If I ran a team, and the sport abministrators [FIA/F1/Liberty Media] told me I could have a lot more time and a competitor had less, I would show them my middle finger, and sue...

F1 is about the best brains in the biz, locked in combat, to hobble or retard development to the better of another is just pathetic, it cheapens and dulls the whole reason the Formula exists in the first place, you cannot say "we have the best x or y" when in reality it is unbalanced in terms of who gets what..

Just imagine in 2024, as a result of the extra benefit Maclaren get, and they romp to a 21 season win, out of 23, and only 2nd twice, and Red Bull finish 3rd to Mercedes, what then? You bet a lot of whine and whinge about tunnels and cost caps and maybe McLaren cheated on the accounting app...

Go back to unlimited, if you have the resource, use, if not find a way to generate.. The sport will sort it self out, it worked for 50+ yrs with no caps, and toss the electric section in the bin, straight pipes with the vodka fuel, straight etho, into a 9 speed semi auto....V6 V8, Vx,....but no hybrid, straight old school pistons..
 
What I really cannot stand is the insanity of the regulations,
1-ban the cost cap, if you cannot pay, then bugger off, it is a business, and those that can afford it, will find ways, it cheapens and dulls the sport, it is a stupid irrational illogical decision, F1 is a business, and should be run like one, it is not a league....

2- Wind tunnel time, it should be as much as you need, for as many sessions as you need, to say to Red Bull you get x number of sessions, and to McLaren you get 18x as you are useless and came 7th, you should get more time "to catch up" what is this, special olympics??? No..

If I ran a team, and the sport abministrators [FIA/F1/Liberty Media] told me I could have a lot more time and a competitor had less, I would show them my middle finger, and sue...

F1 is about the best brains in the biz, locked in combat, to hobble or retard development to the better of another is just pathetic, it cheapens and dulls the whole reason the Formula exists in the first place, you cannot say "we have the best x or y" when in reality it is unbalanced in terms of who gets what..

Just imagine in 2024, as a result of the extra benefit Maclaren get, and they romp to a 21 season win, out of 23, and only 2nd twice, and Red Bull finish 3rd to Mercedes, what then? You bet a lot of whine and whinge about tunnels and cost caps and maybe McLaren cheated on the accounting app...

Go back to unlimited, if you have the resource, use, if not find a way to generate.. The sport will sort it self out, it worked for 50+ yrs with no caps, and toss the electric section in the bin, straight pipes with the vodka fuel, straight etho, into a 9 speed semi auto....V6 V8, Vx,....but no hybrid, straight old school pistons..
#2 huh?

I feel like you worded it ... wrong..?

You mean any team could use it as much as they need to, right?
 
As explained, the Formula should be uncapped, you race what you have developed, you have a wind tunnel, you use it, if you are poor and pathetic and have to rent, well find a 2nd source of income, sell more merch, sell more booze, whatever...

F1 should be a liquid fuel formula, on bio eth, or potato, rice, whatever float your boat, ZERO electrical hybrid garbage, pure pistons like we had back in the 80's, but only potato or rice bio ethanol fuels...

It should be about the best, and if you have the budget race, if not, then that is your problem, to retard Red Bull only for another team to gain advantage is cheating, it is an unfair advantage, I can look at your design, but you cannot mine... how is that fair??

No one moaned from the 1950's to the 1990's... you raced what you could, the formula sorts out the whingers from the winners... budget caps and limited tunnel runs are counter productive...
 
Disappointing upgrades for all in Spain. Looks like 2023 will continue to be the RB show.
Can’t wait for 2024.

It is the Max and Perez show. MacRumors established last race it has nothing do with the car, but all because of the driving.

Alonso should be winning and taking pole positions in his Aston Martin according to MacRumors.

Everybody on the grid needs to get driving lessons from Max and Perez according to MacRumors.
 
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I feel like given past Ferrari qualifying speeds and Monaco Alonso qualifying time the cars should be much closer. It‘s in the fine details that stretched out over a race make a huge difference. Max then makes it seem easy by being super consistent. I was expecting more of a fight up front. It’s coming at some point anyway.

Rooting for Alonso and his team to take the number 2, they can get Perez too. And what do we say each year? Next year will be exciting!

I’m rooting for Alonso and Aston too, but Max and RB are too strong for him to beat. Still it’s providing some excellent excitement up front, and they have replaced the lack lustre design mess the of Mercedes. Be nice if McLaren could get up there with Alonso with Lando, maybe now they’ve pinched that chap from RB they may do that?
 
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Uncapped budgets in F1 just lead to even longer periods of dominance and the death of potential privateer teams. Looks at what decades of uncompetitive performance due to monetary constraints did to Williams. A cost cap ensures every team has a fair chance at competing within the same parameters, or should do unless food bills spiral of course. Look what Brawn did when they produced one of the most expensive F1 cars in the history of the sport. Obviously we still see dominance but at least it’s manageable.
 
Uncapped budgets in F1 just lead to even longer periods of dominance and the death of potential privateer teams. Looks at what decades of uncompetitive performance due to monetary constraints did to Williams. A cost cap ensures every team has a fair chance at competing within the same parameters, or should do unless food bills spiral of course. Look what Brawn did when they produced one of the most expensive F1 cars in the history of the sport. Obviously we still see dominance but at least it’s manageable.

An open field leads to hydraulic suspension, two axle front setups, fans sucking cars down, and the resulting total complete dominance of the field.
 
It is the Max and Perez show. MacRumors established last race it has nothing do with the car, but all because of the driving.

Alonso should be winning and taking pole positions in his Aston Martin according to MacRumors.

Everybody on the grid needs to get driving lessons from Max and Perez according to MacRumors.

Since when has a couple of posters on Mac Rumours been a metric for ignoring technology and promoting human talent as the only important factor in Formula One?
 
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Well at least qualifying is offering some excitement...
  • LeClerc 19th at the end of Q1.
  • Perez 11th at the end of Q2.
  • George also out in Q2, and then is side-swiped by Lewis for good measure down the front straight.
 
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Alonso has to be worried he won’t get beaten by this slow driver called Lewis who has been nowhere this season.

Quite a shame that the only driver talented enough to beat Max, which is Perez, keeps sending his car in the gravel. If this is the 2nd best driver in Formula 1, the entire grid is really terrible.

Wish Alonso or Lewis was atleast as good as Perez as a driver. That would make the season more interesting.
 
Another dominant pole by Max - almost a half-second up on #2 Sainz and could have gone faster if he wanted.

All we can hope for now is rain tomorrow.
 
Really badly driven by Alonso, as according to MacRumors, there is no difference between a Red Bull and an Aston Martin, and it is only due to driving.

Alonso should have taken pole position in that Aston Martin if I have to believe MacRumors.
 
Alonso has to be worried he won’t get beaten by this slow driver called Lewis who has been nowhere this season.

Quite a shame that the only driver talented enough to beat Max, which is Perez, keeps sending his car in the gravel. If this is the 2nd best driver in Formula 1, the entire grid is really terrible.

Wish Alonso or Lewis was atleast as good as Perez as a driver. That would make the season more interesting.

Sergio has a "Focus Problem" currently. These type of sessions don't help with "Will Riccardo be in my ride in 2024?"

RBR probably doesn't help behind the scenes. Helmut doesn't pass up an opportunity to make a negative Perez comment. Plus Daniel being an Aussie.....well, you know.......
 
The race will probably be dry, but if it does starts wet, that could help LeClerc since he could do a complete setup change to adapt for wet conditions since starting from the pit lane is really no worse than starting 19th (and might even be better since it would protect him from first corner carnage).
 

I laughed.. if they are both on a flying lap who's to blame? 50 50 to me if that was the case. George needs to learn to use his mirrors.
 

I laughed.. if they are both on a flying lap who's to blame? 50 50 to me if that was the case. George needs to learn to use his mirrors.

I think it was just miscommunication. Lewis thought George had left space for him to pass and George evidently hasn’t checked his mirrors along the straight. At least it was only minor damage.
 
Alonso has to be worried he won’t get beaten by this slow driver called Lewis who has been nowhere this season.

Quite a shame that the only driver talented enough to beat Max, which is Perez, keeps sending his car in the gravel. If this is the 2nd best driver in Formula 1, the entire grid is really terrible.

Wish Alonso or Lewis was atleast as good as Perez as a driver. That would make the season more interesting.
If Perez is the second best driver in F1 I’m the King of England!
He’s in the best car and is nowhere close to his team mate.

I would put Lewis, Alonso and Norris well ahead of him.

He’s like LeClerc. Does well sometimes then just has a shocker now and then.

Sadly Max had plenty more in the bag. He’ll drive off into the distance for sure.
 
If Perez is the second best driver in F1 I’m the King of England!
He’s in the best car and is nowhere close to his team mate.

I would put Lewis, Alonso and Norris well ahead of him.

He’s like LeClerc. Does well sometimes then just has a shocker now and then.

Sadly Max had plenty more in the bag. He’ll drive off into the distance for sure.

According to MacRumors, Alonso lost pole position last race by 0.1 seconds due to Max being a superior driver and the rocketship called Red Bull he is driving has nothing to do with it.

So if the Red Bull is not faster, MacRumors are implying Perez is better than Alonso too as he has been beating Alonso all season so far. And this is despite crashing his car and sending his Red Bull in the gravel constantly.

I’m just following the “consensus” that Alonso is getting beat due to his driving skills rather than the Aston Martin he is driving.
 
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