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2023 Formula 1 Season thread
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I agree. Whilst he needs to find his focus again we mustn’t forget that he is standing in number 2. But he rapidly needs to get back into it again to preserve and extend his lead.
It must have been so frustrating to get so many times deleted but the rules are the rules. And the margins in the top ten are very small, so I appreciate they have to keep pushing.
He is 2nd because he drives a Red Bull, not because he is any good. He is literally the worst driver on the grid at the moment.
Perez in an Aston Martin wouldn't be 2nd in the championship.
Perez is going to really struggle going forward because Red Bull has been shifting their focus on their 2024 car, now that the championship is pretty much over.
At the same time, the other teams are doing their best to come closer to the 2023 Red Bull car.
At the same time, the other teams are doing their best to come closer to the 2023 Red Bull car.
Any changes would be made after the season. They are not going to buy him out and put Daniel in until 2024. It's too bad to see Sergio coming apart like this. He is a good driver. He just can't handle the constant verbal abuse from Helmut and knowing Daniel is right there to step in.
But that's F1. You need to be able to handle the Circus outside the car between races.
Doubtful. He will stay at the team until the end of the season at least.
De Vries on the other hand...
Partially the car brings benefit, but not anyone can drive a car like that. I am no Checo fan but don’t think he is the worst driver at all. Nyck de Vries, , Logan Sargeant, George Russel to name a few. I don’t believe that putting others in that car all of a sudden makes them good to be second. Whatever issues Checo is battling with he need to overcome, just like last year it is like he gets some mental block.
What verbal abuse? There is just some justified straight talking, I wouldn’t call it abuse. And deservedly so. He is supposed to be the second best in the world, needs to deliver. This is not kindergarten.
Correct. It’s not Kindergarten. However, Helmut can be over the top with his Max bias, and friendship with Jos.
Never cared for Helmut. No opinions will change that. 😉
Who’s Helmut? I didn’t watch today as too busy, it I guess they had some practice then qualifying for the sprint tomorrow so they can smash their cars up, try to get positions and keep the mechanics up all night fixing them, then they can struggle through Sunday. Hate these weekends.
Doctor Helmut Marko. Officially, he is an advisor to the Red Bull Racing team, but he had the ear of the late Dietrich Mateschitz, who generally followed his suggestions on race seats at RBR and TR. He seems to still hold that power under the new management.
Yes today was Free Practice and Race Qualifying. Tomorrow will be Sprint Qualifying followed by the Sprint Race itself.
I prefer the new format as the Sprint Race is now completely independent of the main race and no longer determines the starting order for Sunday's race.
I prefer no sprint race at all. Just another gimmick we don’t need.
I'm watching now and I've no idea what the hell is going on... They did sprint and now ... ?
shootout...?
So the "shootouts" are just old fashioned style qualifying?
Haas guys still in the 3rd session. Cool.
I was just going to comment that the Aston Martin cars seem to have hit a wall but they are in there as well... but yeah, I feel like they've hit a wall...
Hulk up to 4th!
OK not gonna lie... I still don't understand. So they are going to do another sprint at 9:30 USCT?
shootout...?
So the "shootouts" are just old fashioned style qualifying?
Haas guys still in the 3rd session. Cool.
I was just going to comment that the Aston Martin cars seem to have hit a wall but they are in there as well... but yeah, I feel like they've hit a wall...
Hulk up to 4th!
OK not gonna lie... I still don't understand. So they are going to do another sprint at 9:30 USCT?
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Sprint Shootout is the qualifying round for the Sprint Race. Turned out to be pretty exciting (unless you support AMG Mercedes) thanks to a drying track evolving every lap.
Sprint Race is starting now and it rained heavily after the shootout so the track is wet with everyone on Inters.
Sprint Race is starting now and it rained heavily after the shootout so the track is wet with everyone on Inters.
So that was a pretty exciting Sprint Race, though I admit only because it was a drying track.
Based on today, I really hope it pours just before 2PM local tomorrow and then stops about 1/4 distance into the race.
Based on today, I really hope it pours just before 2PM local tomorrow and then stops about 1/4 distance into the race.
Agreed. Wasn’t bad for a BS Sprint Race. Lando really got sent backwards. Was unfortunate. I‘m betting he has a good race tomorrow.
Nice to see Sergio and Max scuffle a bit. Unfortunately that was it then. Max was gone.
So is this the starting grid?
| 1 | 1 | Max Verstappen | RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT | 24 | 30:26.730 | 8 |
| 2 | 11 | Sergio Perez | RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT | 24 | +21.048s | 7 |
| 3 | 55 | Carlos Sainz | FERRARI | 24 | +23.088s | 6 |
| 4 | 18 | Lance Stroll | ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES | 24 | +29.703s | 5 |
| 5 | 14 | Fernando Alonso | ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES | 24 | +30.109s | 4 |
| 6 | 27 | Nico Hulkenberg | HAAS FERRARI | 24 | +31.297s | 3 |
| 7 | 31 | Esteban Ocon | ALPINE RENAULT | 24 | +36.602s | 2 |
| 8 | 63 | George Russell | MERCEDES | 24 | +36.611s | 1 |
| 9 | 4 | Lando Norris | MCLAREN MERCEDES | 24 | +38.608s | 0 |
| 10 | 44 | Lewis Hamilton | MERCEDES | 24 | +46.375s | 0 |
| 11 | 81 | Oscar Piastri | MCLAREN MERCEDES | 24 | +49.807s | 0 |
| 12 | 16 | Charles Leclerc | FERRARI | 24 | +50.789s | 0 |
| 13 | 23 | Alexander Albon | WILLIAMS MERCEDES | 24 | +52.848s | 0 |
| 14 | 20 | Kevin Magnussen | HAAS FERRARI | 24 | +56.593s | 0 |
| 15 | 10 | Pierre Gasly | ALPINE RENAULT | 24 | +57.652s | 0 |
| 16 | 22 | Yuki Tsunoda | ALPHATAURI HONDA RBPT | 24 | +64.822s | 0 |
| 17 | 21 | Nyck De Vries | ALPHATAURI HONDA RBPT | 24 | +65.617s | 0 |
| 18 | 2 | Logan Sargeant | WILLIAMS MERCEDES | 24 | +66.059s | 0 |
| 19 | 24 | Zhou Guanyu | ALFA ROMEO FERRARI | 24 | +70.825s | 0 |
| 20 | 77 | Valtteri Bottas | ALFA ROMEO FERRARI | 24 | +76.435s | 0 |
dear god...
So there is literally no point to the sprint format.
yeah i hate the sprint bullsh*t.
And I do feel like the Aston Martin crew have hit a wall. I don't believe we will be seeing them on the podium much the rest of the season... unless there is some sort of attrition.
| 1 | 1 | Max Verstappen | RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT | 1:05.116 | 1:04.951 | 1:04.391 | 24 |
| 2 | 16 | Charles Leclerc | FERRARI | 1:05.577 | 1:05.087 | 1:04.439 | 26 |
| 3 | 55 | Carlos Sainz | FERRARI | 1:05.339 | 1:04.975 | 1:04.581 | 25 |
| 4 | 4 | Lando Norris | MCLAREN MERCEDES | 1:05.617 | 1:05.038 | 1:04.658 | 23 |
| 5 | 44 | Lewis Hamilton | MERCEDES | 1:05.673 | 1:05.188 | 1:04.819 | 25 |
| 6 | 18 | Lance Stroll | ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES | 1:05.710 | 1:05.121 | 1:04.893 | 25 |
| 7 | 14 | Fernando Alonso | ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES | 1:05.655 | 1:05.181 | 1:04.911 | 27 |
| 8 | 27 | Nico Hulkenberg | HAAS FERRARI | 1:05.740 | 1:05.362 | 1:05.090 | 24 |
| 9 | 10 | Pierre Gasly | ALPINE RENAULT | 1:05.515 | 1:05.308 | 1:05.170 | 21 |
| 10 | 23 | Alexander Albon | WILLIAMS MERCEDES | 1:05.673 | 1:05.387 | 1:05.823 | 21 |
| 11 | 63 | George Russell | MERCEDES | 1:05.686 | 1:05.428 | 21 | |
| 12 | 31 | Esteban Ocon | ALPINE RENAULT | 1:05.729 | 1:05.453 | 15 | |
| 13 | 81 | Oscar Piastri | MCLAREN MERCEDES | 1:05.683 | 1:05.605 | 19 | |
| 14 | 77 | Valtteri Bottas | ALFA ROMEO FERRARI | 1:05.763 | 1:05.680 | 14 | |
| 15 | 11 | Sergio Perez | RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT | 1:05.177 | 2:06.688 | 19 | |
| 16 | 22 | Yuki Tsunoda | ALPHATAURI HONDA RBPT | 1:05.784 | 10 | ||
| 17 | 24 | Zhou Guanyu | ALFA ROMEO FERRARI | 1:05.818 | 9 | ||
| 18 | 2 | Logan Sargeant | WILLIAMS MERCEDES | 1:05.948 | 9 | ||
| 19 | 20 | Kevin Magnussen | HAAS FERRARI | 1:05.971 | 10 | ||
| 20 | 21 | Nyck De Vries | ALPHATAURI HONDA RBPT | 1:05.974 | 10 |