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Bigger does not make it safer, F1 and lower formula cars are made primarily from carbon fibre, for really one reason, safety, as in the case of a serious accident, the amount of energy in the accident needs to be used up, and to use this energy, it is used to delaminate the carbon fibres, as to reduce the amount of energy on the human driver....

There are no airbags, so making the car bigger was only there to accommodate the modern technology, if we went back to a simpler system, using vodka water instead of batteries, the car would be scaled down....

The drawback to this is now the car is actually too small for modern high def television, so what is we want? A better looking car we can actually see on 75 inch tv's or cars that fit the tracks and that can overtake where the track was designed for overtaking back when cars fitted the track and 4:3 tv screens??

Found this....

I'd argue the halo is the biggest safety feature. Utterly ironic it's saved some like Lewis from the other utterly idiotic safety feature being sausage kerbs...
Carbon is also used as it's incredibly light weight and strong.
 
Well that was exciting. Great strategies by both Red Bull and McLaren. Awesome drive by Max but also Piastry.

Hamilton doing a George on Perez and causing a DNF for Perez but only gets a 5s penalty and is still in the points. I guess the rules are the rules. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Well that was exciting. Great strategies by both Red Bull and McLaren. Awesome drive by Max but also Piastry.

Hamilton doing a George on Perez and causing a DNF for Perez but only gets a 5s penalty and is still in the points. I guess the rules are the rules. 🤷‍♂️

Yet, Perez pushed Piastri off the track at Hungary last weekend, which was 100% on Perez and he didn’t get any penalty for it.

At the same time, Lewis was side by side with Perez and there was enough space on the left, and Lewis gets a 5 second penalty for that?

Either Nico Rosberg is one of the stewards this race weekend or there is some preferential treatment for Red Bull. Perez does much worse things and he doesn’t get any penalty what so ever.

I’m more impressed by Gasly his result. Max and Piastry just do what is expected driving the 1st and 2nd best cars of the field. The car of Gasly clearly doesn’t belong there.
 
Well that was exciting. Great strategies by both Red Bull and McLaren. Awesome drive by Max but also Piastry.

Hamilton doing a George on Perez and causing a DNF for Perez but only gets a 5s penalty and is still in the points. I guess the rules are the rules. 🤷‍♂️

Taking his lack of contract progress out on Sergio today. Put a hole in the RB19 side pod the size of a pumpkin. Sergio couldn’t have given more room. Sergio had no traction from his rears over pressurizing.

Lewis didn’t need to do that. He knew better. Could have made the pass in the next zone.
 
Taking his lack of contract progress out on Sergio today. Put a hole in the RB19 side pod the size of a pumpkin. Sergio couldn’t have given more room. Sergio had no traction from his rears over pressurizing.

Lewis didn’t need to do that. He knew better.

Perez wasn’t even on the kerbs when they made contact. Perez is also to blame for it.

Besides, Perez actually ran Piastra off the road last race, much worse than what Lewis did and didn’t get a penalty. This is just too funny this penalty that was given to Lewis.
 
Perez wasn’t even on the kerbs when they made contact. Perez is also to blame for it.

Besides, Perez actually ran Piastra off the road last race, much worse than what Lewis did and didn’t get a penalty. This is just too funny this penalty that was given to Lewis.

Bottom line is that it just shows the lack of ability with the FIA and the Stewards.

You could say the same thing about Lewis today to a dozen other interactions this season.

These Sprint Races are unnecessary. Just more opportunities to screw up and release additional Micro Rubber into the atmosphere. 😏
 
Perez wasn’t even on the kerbs when they made contact. Perez is also to blame for it.

Besides, Perez actually ran Piastra off the road last race, much worse than what Lewis did and didn’t get a penalty. This is just too funny this penalty that was given to Lewis.
Well perhaps you should apply to join race control or become a stewart. Until such time the facts don’t support it.

Just typical Hamilton move.

 
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Well perhaps you should apply to join race control or become a stewart. Until such time the facts don’t support it.

Just typical Hamilton move.


Please, Max has been dive bombing Lewis constantly where both Max and Lewis end up off the track. And ofcourse, no penalties was given for it.

The only time Max got a penalty is when Max slammed the brakes on the main straight so that Lewis crashed into the back of his car. And it was only a 10-second penalty, which should have been a disqualifcation.

The Perez vs Lewis today was simply a race-incident. The Red Bull boys got away with much worse things without a penalty.
 
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Not a fan of the sprint gimmick races.
Especially when the result is always Max!
Great result for McLaren. But even they don’t know if it’s a podium or not.

As for the penalty, that is pathetic. Just two guys racing. I’ve seen others do much worse.
 
Please, Max has been dive bombing Lewis constantly where both Max and Lewis end up off the track. And ofcourse, no penalties was given for it.

The only time Max got a penalty is when Max slammed the brakes on the main straight so that Lewis crashed into the back of his car. And it was only a 10-second penalty, which should have been a disqualifcation.

The Perez vs Lewis today was simply a race-incident. The Red Bull boys got away with much worse things without a penalty.

That was the old Max. Todays Max is far more restrained even when he puts the elbows out. The statement that RBR received preferential treatment is weak at best. Do you honestly believe F1 wants to facilitate the RB19 winning every race by 5-33sec? I certainly do not.

After watching several replays from different angles I agree it looked simply like racing with the elbows out. Mercedes can use this as a motivator tomorrow fighting McLaren.
 
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That was the old Max. Todays Max is far more restrained even when he puts the elbows out. The statement that RBR received preferential treatment is weak at best. Do you honestly believe F1 wants to facilitate the RB19 winning every race by 5-33sec? I certainly do not.

After watching several replays from different angles I agree it looked simply like racing with the elbows out. Mercedes can use this as a motivator tomorrow fighting McLaren.

Intentionally trying to crash into someone on purpose constantly is much worse, yet the FIA allows it if Max does it.

Even Stevie Wonders can see the FIA treats Red Bull differently.

The FIA even went that far to change the safety car procedure during the race to let Max win the WDC, something that has never happened before in the history of F1. I cannot recall an other incident in any other sports where the rules were applied differently so that someone else would win by the governing body.
 
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Intentionally trying to crash into someone on purpose constantly is much worse, yet the FIA allows it if Max does it.

Even Stevie Wonders can see the FIA treats Red Bull differently.

The FIA even went that far to change the safety car procedure during the race to let Max win the WDC, something that has never happened before in the history of F1. I cannot recall an other incident in any other sports where the rules were applied differently so that someone else would win by the governing body.

The FIA and the Stewards don't base penalties on the merits of the incident any longer. Too much of the decision is based on damage to a car. If Sergio had not withdrawn with a hole in his side pod there would not have been a 5 sec penalty, IMO.

I'm not defending RBR. Allot of accusations were made during the Mercedes Era as well. The Root issue is F1 and the FIA. One can pick a team and simply "insert here" as long as they have performance and sponsorship.

The Team that wins while bringing the most sponsorship money into the sport will be viewed differently in some situations in 2023 and beyond by F1. It's not going to change until Liberty Media is gone from F1.
 
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I expect the teams are happy with Liberty since they are making more money and getting much more exposure.
 
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I expect the teams are happy with Liberty since they are making more money and getting much more exposure.
If that was the case, then then Liberty would not have issues with Las Vegas, but sending in the goon squad as mafia to shake down strip venues, and I saw a report that F1 support is waning in the US, due to "boring" events and too many Max wins...
 
Please, Max has been dive bombing Lewis constantly where both Max and Lewis end up off the track. And ofcourse, no penalties was given for it.

The only time Max got a penalty is when Max slammed the brakes on the main straight so that Lewis crashed into the back of his car. And it was only a 10-second penalty, which should have been a disqualifcation.

The Perez vs Lewis today was simply a race-incident. The Red Bull boys got away with much worse things without a penalty.
Please do have a look at the track incident stats say over the last two years ;) That tells a very different story. And I say it again, the facts just don't agree with you to call it simply a race-incident. Hamilton received a penalty for what he did.
 
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Anyway, looking forward to the race today. Should be good. Just hope Max can stay out of trouble in the first corner and lap, after that let's race once more.
 
Well Sky is insanely expensive from what I hear, here in South Africa, we have "dstv" the same sort of thing Sky is, only what sky was in the 1980's, and F1 is available only on the premium package, of which has the smallest number of users as DSTV has a range of packages..

The F1 app, from what I have seen is either great, or a scam, does or does not work.. I would believe there are fewer viewers now than a decade ago.
 
Well Sky is insanely expensive from what I hear, here in South Africa, we have "dstv" the same sort of thing Sky is, only what sky was in the 1980's, and F1 is available only on the premium package, of which has the smallest number of users as DSTV has a range of packages..

The F1 app, from what I have seen is either great, or a scam, does or does not work.. I would believe there are fewer viewers now than a decade ago.
F1TVPro is only GBP59 per year or there abouts. Really not expensive to watch. I have also Sky Q, but when abroad or on the move its nice to be able to watch.

It's interesting though to see the shifting definition of exposure to mean just viewers...
 
F1TVPro either works, or it does not, F1/Liberty seem to not care either way, I considered a subscription, but cannot trust that it will work, and if it does not, there is nothing that can be done, what F1TVPro should do, is allow for viewing of say Porsche supercup, or some event that allows for potential subscribers to evaluate, I don't know or trust F1 to be able to sustain a live stream.
 
F1TVPro either works, or it does not, F1/Liberty seem to not care either way, I considered a subscription, but cannot trust that it will work, and if it does not, there is nothing that can be done, what F1TVPro should do, is allow for viewing of say Porsche supercup, or some event that allows for potential subscribers to evaluate, I don't know or trust F1 to be able to sustain a live stream.
Works fine for me, great quality as well. And when in a hotel or rental place, more often than not there is a decent TV where I can cast it to as well.

And I live in an area where I shouldn't be able to get a subscription as they've region blocked it to give the market to Sky ;)
 
F1TV recently blocked VPN usage, but it seems they've opened that back up again today.
I think it’s more likely that they are trying to play a game of wackamole. They find a VPN, close it, and then the VPN provider opens others. I tend to switch mine between the US, Netherlands or Cyprus.
 
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