I’m reading that people take these radio messages as serious. In reality they’re mostly messing about.
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May I ask what country you are in?
Fair enough point. My parents don't live in the UK, so they don't have the geo restrictions, but I've helped out friends to install the VPN service on their router, and configure such that their Apple TV uses it automatically. All they have to do is click on the application and it works.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of geo restrictions, but from a business perspective, I can appreciate Sky wanting to protect their investment in the licence agreement. Sadly, it is just a thing, ever since DVD's came out in the 90s I've had multi-region players, with Blu-ray the nonsense continued, and finally with the nonsense stopped with Ultra HD Blu-rays. Yet, streaming services like Netflix and the likes do the same thing again.
I also wish they'd just open up their service to all, in my opinion, the Sky Q UHD version still has plenty of added features to warrant a premium for those who want to watch it that way. But hey, it isn't so at the moment.
It depends on what you want from a VPN service, basic popular ones work well, there is no need for multiple chains, non-logging, multi-hops etc if you mainly use it for streaming online video. Settings can be left to automatic mode for that as well. Yes, you are right, there is a cost to a VPN service, naturally you can use it for other purposes as well, like banking, official government interaction, other streaming services, privacy, etc. If your ISP blocks, then I'd really recommend switching ISPs, besides surely you've got an ISP anyway? Or alternatives, as aforementioned, you can use a mobile phone and cast it to a TV if you want to watch on a larger screen. No different from what you mentioned using YouTube.
Exactly! I can't believe some are taking them with a bigger meaning. These guys have a fantastic relationship. It was so funny to witness that.
The only cynical thought I have, but no evidence for currently, is that the Netflix crew was with them, and they acted up a bit more than usual.
But the way Max said it was such typical dry Dutch humour, and the way Gianpiero responded was such a typical British response. They were clearly joking with each other. In the post race interviews Max was also explaining the human element, similar to; In the pit lane they have the data and the stats, but I am in the car and can feel the car.
Max did set a very fast fastest lap-time at that moment and wanted the full points as any race driver would/should want. Just look at Lewis Hamilton, he had enough of a gap as well and through thank you very much, I'll do that extra pit stop and grab that point, which he did with a very impressive lap. As we've seen in 2021, 1 point can make all the difference. And now Lewis is only 1 point away from a 3rd place in the standings. And dare I say it, if the Mercedes keeps doing what it does, and Lewis maintains his impressive fight, he may be in with a shot to become 2nd overall? Unless Pérez can find some consistency in his races.
In this case, the risk for Red Bull likely outweighs the result of a 1 / 2 finish.
It is funny though, some people refer to Max as not fun and arrogant, yet when he jokes they still can't see it, or on many other channels they call him rude and disrespectful. A bit of cultural awareness wouldn't go amiss for some.
I thought the same thing.It’s all too easy for Red Bull. Max even offering to up his pace to squeeze a pit stop in for extra practise, Christ on a bike. Another predictable race that was a struggle to find exciting. Max is clearly in a different league to his teammate and is unstoppable in that car. Roll on 2024 and I hope the likes of McLaren and Mercedes have improved to actually give us a title fight of some form at the very least. This is the dullest season since 2022
Honestly, and not to start any kind of argument or debate, the seasons are always like this these days. Mercedes also ran away with a few titles. As a fan of backmarkers this is nothing new. It does seem to be worse this season.
Whoever wins in F1 is arrogant, that’s just how it is. The underdog can say whatever, that’s just competitive behavior. Speaking super generalized obviously. I experienced the exact same thing with Hamilton, I was no better myself.
I’d rather discuss anything else honestly.
Dang. Hamilton will surpass Alonso next race.
Great race, endless amazing ballsy overtaking moves! Albon in that Williams! And Max just showed why he’s number one, catching Sergio and blasting past him. But great to see Sergio back on the podium again. Shame McLaren have lost their touch same with Aston.
But you know THE most stunning amazing unbelievable thing of this weekends race? Ferrari, yes FERRARI actually managed a podium finish WITHOUT screwing it’s up with strategy! It’s an absolute miracle I tell you!
But you know THE most stunning amazing unbelievable thing of this weekends race? Ferrari, yes FERRARI actually managed a podium finish WITHOUT screwing it’s up with strategy! It’s an absolute miracle I tell you!
On a side note, lots of talk going round how F1TV are cracking down hard on VPN users, lots have suddenly had it stop working for them over the last week. Mine is still alright with Nord, but another option is Stream Locator that works still, you can have a free trial to test it out anyway.
I think there is a level and there is a level, one for the winners, and one for the rest, the winning car just sort of maybe once in 24 races is actually checked, maybe, and the rest, tested and retested to the point it is late for DHL shipping.. I just cannot see how Max can just be almost 2 minutes faster than the bloke in 3rd.. Other than maybe his car is a just a tiny bit sus..
You seem need to F1, even Hamilton will tell you in the world of F1 Cash Is King. Berney made himself a billionaire from F1. All through the media contracts.
You will never get F1 for free or cheap anymore, those days are long gone, now it’s all profit profit profit, and Liberty are chasing that, so you have to pay to see it. Sky most likely paid hundred of millions of not billions for the F1 contract, they think nothing of paying 5 billion plus sterling for a 3 year deal for a single football league. And they will make anyone pay a lot to watch it then.
So for me a VPN and F1TV app is the cheapest way.
The point is, drive to survive is a netflix product, so bundle the F1 as part n parcel of netflix, as an add on fee, £60 or £5 a month bolt on, down on that, all day, ready to spend right now... But they wont, cause idiots..
Erm Lewis Hamilton did the exact same thing for several years, some races he was lapping 4th place. Did they not get scrutinised either? You seem new to the sport. It is HEAVILY scrutinised, controlled, audited, monitored, so much that teams have to look for loopholes in the regs to gain advantages. ALL cars and teams get the exact same monitoring.
They won’t cause Netflix cannot afford to out bid Sky, it’s business, big business.
In order to have bacon n eggs, you have to break the eggs, there is nothing stopping Liberty who own the F1TV rights, to give it away to whom they please, if they were smart, they would for $1 sell to Netflix, and ask for a % of the profit of Netflix, I am pretty sure Netflix would be keen, why would they not??
Sky offers something netflix cannot, the onboards, the porsche cup, F2/F3, radio comms, if you want that, you go for Sky, if all you want is Q and Race, then you pay the £60 a year or £9 a month for the months you want, added onto your Netflix, I remember a while ago, there was a massive boxing event, and it was pay per view, and there was so much fighting, that the guy who owned the rights, gave access to some tiny broadcaster....
Don't forget that F1 is entertainment business product 1st, it would make sense for Netflix to handle the admin of the F1Tv pro access, 2nd point, the actual streaming is done by Akamai, they handle the actual access to the service, be it Netflix, Sky, youtube, facebook, Apple, every broadcaster uses Akamai to handle streaming..
So really at the end of the day, it is about who gets paid, the actual stream never moves from the provider, the £60 is mostly going to Akamai, F1 maybe gets about 5c out of the deal if that... So really what is the issue? If it was through Netflix, there is more chance of it working, if not then? It is still Akamai, but if there is a problem, Akamai know that there is very little comeback from F1/Liberty...
Maybe that is the reason changing providers was never done?? It is very sus that Sky provide the commentary to F1TV Pro... What Sky does back in the UK is add features, that is not available to international viewers, it is still the same stream going into the UK, but streamed regional it is enhanced, that is what you are paying for...
Sky offers something netflix cannot, the onboards, the porsche cup, F2/F3, radio comms, if you want that, you go for Sky, if all you want is Q and Race, then you pay the £60 a year or £9 a month for the months you want, added onto your Netflix, I remember a while ago, there was a massive boxing event, and it was pay per view, and there was so much fighting, that the guy who owned the rights, gave access to some tiny broadcaster....
Don't forget that F1 is entertainment business product 1st, it would make sense for Netflix to handle the admin of the F1Tv pro access, 2nd point, the actual streaming is done by Akamai, they handle the actual access to the service, be it Netflix, Sky, youtube, facebook, Apple, every broadcaster uses Akamai to handle streaming..
So really at the end of the day, it is about who gets paid, the actual stream never moves from the provider, the £60 is mostly going to Akamai, F1 maybe gets about 5c out of the deal if that... So really what is the issue? If it was through Netflix, there is more chance of it working, if not then? It is still Akamai, but if there is a problem, Akamai know that there is very little comeback from F1/Liberty...
Maybe that is the reason changing providers was never done?? It is very sus that Sky provide the commentary to F1TV Pro... What Sky does back in the UK is add features, that is not available to international viewers, it is still the same stream going into the UK, but streamed regional it is enhanced, that is what you are paying for...
No, it was simply that Sky paid them the most money, nothing more. Write to Netflix and ask them why they aren’t prepared to spend a couple billion sterling for F1?
To be honest I’m quite happy with the channel 4 highlights. It’s usually at a better time of day for me anyway. The show is 2 and a half hours long which is plenty for me. Especially this season!
Indeed and despite supporting British drivers, I was very vocal on here about wishing the competition would close the gap as it was also very boring watching Mercedes run away with it each year. One bonus I suppose is you see more of the racing further down the pack as the leading driver gets very little coverage. We saw little of Lewis and it’s the same now with Max, but the fan in me would love to see racing for victories rather than points. We can’t have it all though I suppose.
Times have indeed changed. I don’t think Liberty care if 100K watch it or 100M in certain regions, it’s about profit and if TV companies are willing to pay £100M a season to broadcast to just a few million viewers, that’s good enough for Liberty and the teams.
I watched Sky F1 for years on a £45 a year IPTV app but it became a little unpredictable, plus I was too busy most Sundays as I am now to dedicate 3 hrs to watching a race. I did think about getting another dodgy subscription as my father in law has a really reliable one, but the racing hasn’t been the best the last 2 years so I’ve stuck with highlights or catching the odd live race in a pub if I’m about. I’ve been to quite a few Grand Prix over the years, but can’t see myself paying family holiday prices for the cost it is these days. F1 has evolved past the days of being prestigious but obtainable for fans, to a full on Americanised model. We used to think Bernie was bad for the sport and he must be laughing now.
Yeap, reportedly Sky paid 1 billion for the 2019 to 2024 stretch, so I can only imagine they have paid at least double that to extend to 2029. The drivers swapping hats with sponsors depending on if they are on the podium or in an interview, have to strap on giant expensive watches for the podium. All marketing for the sponsors. All big money.
Sadly, I guess not.
I blame the other teams that can't quite seem how to figure it out.
I saw an interview with Lewis saying something like that he wishes he had a car like the RBR19, and (brutally!?) mentioned that if he had Perez's car, Max wouldn't have it so easy.
Well, I must admit I agree with him, it is not how the sport is played, but it would be fun seeing those two stars both in the RBR19. Then again, I don't think Lewis has signed the contract yet, bar the emotional agreement (whatever that is) according to Toto. Now that would spice things up, but won't happen…
Well, I must admit I agree with him, it is not how the sport is played, but it would be fun seeing those two stars both in the RBR19. Then again, I don't think Lewis has signed the contract yet, bar the emotional agreement (whatever that is) according to Toto. Now that would spice things up, but won't happen…
It was reported on July 7th that “Lewis and Toto had agreed in principle to the financial terms and 2yr extension.” It has not been signed yet, but is expected to be over the break, or at least not publicly announced.
I’d wager it’s packed with incentives versus just paying him the ridiculous $50 million a year/5yr he wanted. So, the W15 had better move that driver location to allow for a proper rear suspension.
It’s obvious with his comments that he realizes as most do that the RB19 is very different depending on the driver.
Not taking sides, however if Lewis was in a RB19 set up to his liking Max would simply just flip another switch.
Max can be his own worst enemy at times. He needs to keep it together mentally. I believe he will. The Summer Break will allow that.
I’d wager it’s packed with incentives versus just paying him the ridiculous $50 million a year/5yr he wanted. So, the W15 had better move that driver location to allow for a proper rear suspension.
It’s obvious with his comments that he realizes as most do that the RB19 is very different depending on the driver.
Not taking sides, however if Lewis was in a RB19 set up to his liking Max would simply just flip another switch.
Max can be his own worst enemy at times. He needs to keep it together mentally. I believe he will. The Summer Break will allow that.
Yes, absolutely. Max has matured a lot, as people do at that age. And is surrounded by superb people as well. A large part of his character is just being Dutch, to be honest. Especially British and Americans tend to have either an issue with it, or admire it when they figure it out. Nothing wrong with a bit of honest straight talking, non cheerleader behaviour. And when you get a thank you from a Dutch person it is actually genuine and hearty, opposed to a habitual part of language or because it is the polite thing to do.
Max seems fine, and relaxed. However, I bet he wished the other teams got their act together and provide some challenges, the person loves to race.