It was the prism that was the problem I have to see if I can get a non prism prescription. It’s funny I’ve gotten lenses for metaquest 2,3 and PSVR2, nonissues and the image is great. Not sure why Apple is such an issue
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2024 - Apple Vision Pro US Pre-Orders, Orders, and Delivery Status Thread
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In order to pay off anything towards the Vision Pro you’ll have to have an empty balance on your Apple Card. Once your charges are no longer pending you’ll be able to pay your balance. You can pay early before the due date.
It’s done this way to push consumers to pay off debt with interest vs the zero interest financing.
There’s nothing to pay as the first charge is still pending and the total charge is greater than my limit
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Well in that case you will have to wait until it posts and pay early.
At least Apple Card won't charge you a fee for going overlimit like other card companies...
Has anyone seen anything as to how the ZEISS lenses are packaged? I'm wondering if they have a case or anything for when I want my wife or son to try without my prescription. I hate putting my glasses or sunglasses anywhere but "on my face or in the case" so I'll probably be the same with these, except it will be "in the Vision Pro or in the case".
It’s not going to fail because Apple have the deepest pockets in the industry and they won’t let it fail. There is one reason and one reason alone why people think it will fail: it costs $3,499.
If it cost $1,000 all of the naysayers wouldn’t have anything bad to say about it. What else is wrong with it? The UI? I don’t think so. It’s too heavy? Meh… it’s not much heavier than the competition. The external battery pack? Really? That’s the best you got naysayers?
No, it’s the price that’s the problem for people and that’s it. There are second order effects of the price too - if developers don’t make apps for it, it’ll be because they think it’s too expensive to be more than a niche product.
So, no problem here that some discounting can’t solve. Apple are clearly ready for v1 to be a low volume seller as they’re not making many of them. They will be working to bring costs down for future versions to find a bigger market. If the low volume expectations for v1 become so low that they cause an existential crisis for the Vision Pro (ie. No one buys it, all developers flee) then they will work even harder to lower those costs for future versions, and I wouldn’t rule out them selling them at cost price for a while if they had to.
Vision Pro failing would be a major strategic disaster for Apple. We’re talking Tim Cook stepping down levels of disaster. This is the first major new innovative product from Apple in years. They won’t let it fail.
When does the charge hit for pickups? Never done a pickup but not a dime was charged or even authorized on my card. Weird.
I’d also be interested to know this.
I’d also be interested to know what happens if the payment declines at that time? Is your order instantly cancelled or do Apple give you a chance to update your payment method? I only ask because $3,499 is a big payment and I wouldn’t be totally surprised if my card company declined it for a fraud check.
Ok some new points then that I will address, but perhaps this should be spun off into a new thread, because it is a subject worthwhile discussing in a lot more detail.
Whilst you make some very valid points (and points that I wholeheartedly agree with), I don't agree for one moment that the sole reason people are saying this is going to fail (or that potentially it might fail) is because of the price.
Does anyone seriously believe that the reason Meta (Quest 2 sales to date - of the order of 20 million units) are not supporting it is because it's too expensive right now, production is constrained, and maybe only half a million people will get their hands on it this year?
What about Google? Do you think they are not supporting it because of the low sales estimates?
The price and sales volumes have nothing to do with these two not supporting the Vision Pro.
Let's project a year out from now, and work on the following assumptions -
Vision Pro 2 (or just the "Vision" without the pro) has been announced.
Google through partnering with Samsung have a 4K per eye headset out.
Facebook have the Meta Quest 4K released (do you see what I did there?).
The following apps are still not available on visionOS in any form - YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, GMail, Chrome, Facebook Messenger, Google Maps, Google Sheets, Google Docs...
What then?
If you're picking up on the release, you’ll see the charge on your card on the earlier part of that week. Usually around Monday but no later than EOD Tuesday.
Write out the same thing but replace ‘Vision Pro’ with ‘iPhone’. Same thing, and just as valid.
You know the mutually assured destruction thing in the Cold War? The USA and Soviet Union wouldn’t nuke each other as they knew the result of it would destroy them both? That’s the tech industry. Google could pull all their services off iPhone and really **** Apple up if they wanted to. But if they did that, they’d really **** themselves up too by losing the iPhone market.
So instead they fight skirmishes, small wars. “We’re not going to nuke you, but we’ll take our sweet time in making an app for your new product.” Maybe Apple say “alright, in retaliation for that little skirmish we’ll further add to our anti-tracker security to cost you some more ad money. We’re not nuking you, proportionate response.”
It would be a bigger act of self-sabotage to not bring out an app for the Vision Pro if it had a larger user base. The reason it doesn’t have a larger user base? The price. So I stand by my point that there’s nothing wrong with Vision Pro that can’t be fixed by future discounting.
If Google, Meta or anyone else commits an act of aggression big enough to cause a strategic disaster for Apple, then Apple would hit back hard and they know it. And the failure of Vision Pro would be such a strategic disaster. Ergo, not gonna happen.
I don’t know actually as I’ve done delivery before. As of right now, I don’t even see a pending charge on my card.
Didn't you use your Apple card ?
My AC got charged, first payment w/ sales tax added on, and now showing in my monthly installments.
I’m picking up at the store. Also, was forced to pay full price and will convert to monthly installments later.
They hold back stock to keep filtering into the Apple Stores for availability. Makes sense.
Your card will be charged when it ships.
That's also when a tracking number will be generated.
And the fun begins tracking.
See iPhone launch threads on tracking - folks have come up with many different ways...
I just got off the phone with Apple. There won't be a hit on the Apple Card for those who are picking up the AVP until close to the pickup date.
Ah that's how store pickup works!
Mine is a home delivery so my Apple Card got charged as soon as I placed the pre-order on 1/19.
For the next week or so, I will be posting my tracking updates while it's on a UPS flight and UPS truck...
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Thanks. I’m used to this for when I order for delivery, but per the reply below yours, I think things are different when you pick up. I don’t expect to receive a tracking number and will probably see my credit card charged a couple of days before pick up (probably when my device arrives at the Apple Store).
Thanks for confirming! Store pick-up should be exciting on launch day. My UPS deliveries are usually at the very end of the day, so I will end up getting it sooner with pick-up if all works out, but it is a little anxiety provoking to still see the ‘Cancel Order’ button.
Prisms mess with the eyetracking which can't correct for the deviation. The PSVR2 has that feature as well but probably works off of looser tolerances as foveated rendering can afford less precision than pointing.