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cyb3rdud3

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Jun 22, 2014
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I’m not relieved. I don’t think they are totally incompetent at all. Max had a good race, but not a good weekend running up to it. The rain was a great leveller and helped him show his skills.

Personally I’m not convinced the car is better yet. Checo is no help in the team and can just be discounted. The next races will be dry, very unlikely to have similar conditions. It’s not over yet, especially not when the competition can work as a team. Max will always be max, doesn’t play poker well. All they need to do is have one press his buttons and the other be ready to pounce and take the advantage.

Now will be the moment to see whether McLaren, Lando, and the Oscar have the championship attitude.

In my opinion Red Bull is at a disadvantage for the remaining races. And very lucky Max was Max in Brasil to improve the bufferzone.

So a few more exciting weeks to go. 👍
 

The-Real-Deal82

macrumors P6
Jan 17, 2013
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Wales, United Kingdom
As does the "anti-british" bias.

What he did was stupid. If you had the same feed as me, Sky on espn, even the announcers weren't clear on what was going to happen next and then Lando took off which also baffled the announcers and we viewers. Lando got a fine. What more do you want? Jail time? Shouldn't it suffice to say that Lando is a prisoner of his own foibles and his lack of ability to beat Max.
I think until there is a procedure where incidents are penalised based on what the Verstappen fan club feel is appropriate, and how it benefits them, we just have to rely on the sporting code. Remember when we had calls for penalties to be decided based on the severity of an accident, rather than the cause a few years ago? The more I read lately and how tribal F1 has become, the more I realise how awful the effects of Netflix and social media have had on the sport.
 

cyb3rdud3

macrumors 601
Jun 22, 2014
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I think until there is a procedure where incidents are penalised based on what the Verstappen fan club feel is appropriate, and how it benefits them, we just have to rely on the sporting code. Remember when we had calls for penalties to be decided based on the severity of an accident, rather than the cause a few years ago? The more I read lately and how tribal F1 has become, the more I realise how awful the effects of Netflix and social media have had on the sport.
This Max fan agrees. That is all I’m asking for that it is in accordance with the regulations and code, and with some common sense. As do most when you read there responses. At the moment it is just farcical.
 

sunapple

macrumors 68030
Jul 16, 2013
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The Netherlands
Couldn't agree more. I think if it had just been one or two cars the severity of the penalty might have been a little, if not a lot, different. As it is at least half the grid went with him. Maybe that influenced their judgement? Did anyone else get a fine? Did they just punish the ringleader?

Soooo on to the next topic?

Here it is: How relieved are you Max fans in knowing that Lando/McLaren are completely incompetent?
I don't think they have completely unraveled yet either, there is bound to be more to come as the pressure mounts.


Have you seen this:
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I would love to weigh in and share my thoughts but I’m afraid my Dutch bias will get my post deleted again.

Unrelated, I’m now a huge Lewis Hamilton fan I decided, let it be known 🇬🇧
 

headlessmike

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May 16, 2017
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10 seconds and 3 points. Failing that a penalty more severe than that for saying a swear word.

The confusion was only because Lando took off when he shouldn’t and then others followed. The messaging was clear to other who questioned what they were doing and had their engines switched off as per the rules under this message.

But as Johnny exclaimed many others agreed with his thinking just ask Zak and Lando 🤦‍♂️ Or as Will Buxton exclaimed “…because there are no British racers”.

All I want it some level of consistency.
Speaking of consistency. The last aborted start was at the Austrian GP in June (specifically the sprint). The procedure then was for the aborted start to result in an immediate second formation lap. The procedure ultimately depends on the situation, but I can see that mistakes happen when the protocol isn't set in stone for such an event.
 

JustinePaula

macrumors 6502a
Mar 14, 2012
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Most aborted starts are as a result of a muppet getting confused, and stalling the car on the grid, the field does a 2nd warm up lap, enough time to get the muppet into pit lane...

In the case of this last race, Stroll beached it, so that took even longer, maybe the solution is if the track is safe, YELLOW only lights, but if the track is unsafe, then RED/YELLOW, proceed at pit lane speed under YELLOW until the grid is reformed..

Had there been a combination of RED/YELLOW, Lando would have respected the RED and not left.. It was a confusing circumstance...

Not helped by the lack of "ending" at the start of the 2nd period of racing after the red flag.. 1 lap, suddenly the rolling start..1 lap.. maybe a bit hasty there Race Director...If there is a rolling start, minimum 2 laps..

Any way, a couple of months before the next one, and I hope it there are no more 2am sessions for the drivers.. Or fans being chased away as there is no $$ to pay for security...
 
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