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CWallace

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More like his only option now. And likely at a less lucrative contract. Damn he has been unlucky. And Perez is just too lucky. I really didn’t want him to stay with Red bull. :(

I doubt Audi has suddenly dropped the value of whatever offer they had extended to him just because Mercedes and Red Bull are no longer options for him (and I would not be surprised even if they were interested, they would have offered less money and worse terms than Audi).

So unless Williams pulls off a miracle and signs Adrian Newey, going to Audi will net him a nice paycheck and a three-plus year contract.
 

Glideslope

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$75 Million. Hats off to his agent. Quite a Bag for Sergio. It’s not a 1+1 as initially reported as well. Straight 2 yr extension. Latin America will be stocking up on Red Bull………;)

I‘m inclined to see this also as a reduction in Marko’s political posture. It was quite clear from reports that Helmut only wanted a 1+1, and Horner wanted a 2year for Sergio.

I don’t see Marko being at RBR in the near future.
 

cyb3rdud3

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Perez contract was negotiated by Max I think.

I'd like a teammate that won't challenge me at all for the next 2 years please!
That doesn't sound like Max at all. Max likes a challenge and less boring. And at the same time a teamplayer capable of helping.
 

pachyderm

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That doesn't sound like Max at all. Max likes a challenge and less boring. And at the same time a teamplayer capable of helping.
Yeah, I think it's actually called a "Perez", or a "Bottas"... They both do/did their best.
I'm pretty sure it is hard to keep up with Max and was hard to keep up with Lewie...
 
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danny842003

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Perez has to be the luckiest man in the paddock.
He landed that seat when he was on his arse and has kept it despite not being able to use an utterly dominant car.
People will say yes he finished second last year but I think I could have had a fair crack at finishing second in that car last season.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Perez isn’t really a regular threat to Max and is a team player when he is asked. He’s also accepted that Max will never help him, like switch positions when he needs the extra points once Max has won the championship. Not many drivers would accept a one way role and I think Red Bull realise it would be easier to stick with this arrangement than have Jos throwing his leather jacket across the garage and getting emotional if ever his son is given a team order. It’s best to avoid these types of situations and have a less exciting and less challenging number 2.
 

headlessmike

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Perez isn’t really a regular threat to Max and is a team player when he is asked. He’s also accepted that Max will never help him, like switch positions when he needs the extra points once Max has won the championship. Not many drivers would accept a one way role and I think Red Bull realise it would be easier to stick with this arrangement than have Jos throwing his leather jacket across the garage and getting emotional if ever his son is given a team order. It’s best to avoid these types of situations and have a less exciting and less challenging number 2.
They probably also value the WDC over the WCC, so if they finish second in the WCC it's not a big deal as long as Max is champion. A second place in the constructors championship earns them less prize money but more resources in development and I would imagine that they prefer more of the latter than the prior if given a choice.
 
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Glideslope

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Perez isn’t really a regular threat to Max and is a team player when he is asked. He’s also accepted that Max will never help him, like switch positions when he needs the extra points once Max has won the championship. Not many drivers would accept a one way role and I think Red Bull realise it would be easier to stick with this arrangement than have Jos throwing his leather jacket across the garage and getting emotional if ever his son is given a team order. It’s best to avoid these types of situations and have a less exciting and less challenging number 2.

The quintessential definition of Sergio's new contract.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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They probably also value the WDC over the WCC, so if they finish second in the WCC it's not a big deal as long as Max is champion. A second place in the constructors championship earns them less prize money but more resources in development and I would imagine that they prefer more of the latter than the prior if given a choice.

That does seem a waste for the history books though as that constructors trophy is a validation that a team has produced the best piece of engineering for a given season. I’ve always assumed the drivers championship was more for the fans and the marketing. If Red Bull have that strategy then at least it gives an advantage to the other teams below the top step.
 

headlessmike

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That does seem a waste for the history books though as that constructors trophy is a validation that a team has produced the best piece of engineering for a given season. I’ve always assumed the drivers championship was more for the fans and the marketing. If Red Bull have that strategy then at least it gives an advantage to the other teams below the top step.
I’m just speculating, but Red Bull is all about marketing and as you say the WDC is more marketable. I agree with you and wish that racing was more about having the best drivers driving for the best teams and less about politics within the teams. Keeping Max happy seems to be their top priority, even if it means risk losing the WCC.
 

Glideslope

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I’m just speculating, but Red Bull is all about marketing and as you say the WDC is more marketable. I agree with you and wish that racing was more about having the best drivers driving for the best teams and less about politics within the teams. Keeping Max happy seems to be their top priority, even if it means risk losing the WCC.

Just my opinion, but I see Sergio’s signing as 2 fold.

First from a marketing POV I don’t think they could afford to loose the most popular driver, if not athlete in Latin America. Perez is a sports god there. They still feel he is good enough to bring home a WCC. Time will tell.

Secondly, IMO it’s a sign that Horner has taken back control in the power struggle. I don’t think Carlos was ever in contention. Max would never be “Happy” with him as a teammate. It was always Marko wanting a 1+1 and Horner pushing with Sergio for a 2 yr. It’s just taken this long with all the self inflicted distractions.
 

CWallace

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Just my opinion, but I see Sergio’s signing as 2 fold.

First from a marketing POV I don’t think they could afford to loose the most popular driver, if not athlete in Latin America. Perez is a sports god there. They still feel he is good enough to bring home a WCC. Time will tell.

And even if they finish 2nd, Sergio brings in far more than the difference in prize money. His personal sponsorships are said to be worth $9 million-plus and his "social media value" is said to be almost four times that. Ralf Schumacher recently posited that Sergio is why Red Bull can pay Max $55 million a year in salary. :oops:



Secondly, IMO it’s a sign that Horner has taken back control in the power struggle. I don’t think Carlos was ever in contention. Max would never be “Happy” with him as a teammate. It was always Marko wanting a 1+1 and Horner pushing with Sergio for a 2 yr. It’s just taken this long with all the self inflicted distractions.

Agreed. He successfully survived the scandal and nobody talks about it anymore. And he has the backing of the majority owners so his position looks to be secured.
 
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Glideslope

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And even if they finish 2nd, Sergio brings in far more than the difference in prize money. His personal sponsorships are said to be worth $9 million-plus and his "social media value" is said to be almost four times that. Ralf Schumacher recently posited that Sergio is why Red Bull can pay Max $55 million a year in salary. :oops:





Agreed. He successfully survived the scandal and nobody talks about it anymore. And he has the backing of the majority owners so his position looks to be secured.

$9 million + is probably conservative by quite a bit when his Social Media is bundled.

Ralf most likely has a more accurate number......;)
 
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CWallace

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The interesting thing is that if Horner is really fully in control, that could benefit Daniel even though Yuki is wiping the floor with him. It's been said Christian likes Daniel (and his sponsorship capability) so with Liam Lawson said to be guaranteed a seat in 2025, that could mean Yuki is the one shown the door at the end of the year even if he has the better record.
 
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danny842003

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Just my opinion, but I see Sergio’s signing as 2 fold.

First from a marketing POV I don’t think they could afford to loose the most popular driver, if not athlete in Latin America. Perez is a sports god there. They still feel he is good enough to bring home a WCC. Time will tell.

Messi says hello.
 

Glideslope

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The interesting thing is that if Horner is really fully in control, that could benefit Daniel even though Yuki is wiping the floor with him. It's been said Christian likes Daniel (and his sponsorship capability) so with Liam Lawson said to be guaranteed a seat in 2025, that could mean Yuki is the one shown the door at the end of the year even if he has the better record.

I would agree with this. Once again sponsorship could very well be the deciding factor. It's not a surprise however. This is professional sports in 2024.

Messi says hello.

Fair. $65 million US in 2023 is very impressive indeed. I didn't even know who he was until your post. ;)
 
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liquid stereo

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Perez has to be the luckiest man in the paddock.
He landed that seat when he was on his arse and has kept it despite not being able to use an utterly dominant car.
People will say yes he finished second last year but I think I could have had a fair crack at finishing second in that car last season.
I'm not sure how much luck has to do with it. Maybe is brief stint at McLaren had a bit more luck involved. The dude brings a fair amount of sponsorship.
 
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