I dunno, mine has locked up since my last post in this thread (4 days ago). Maybe it's just luck, but so far that seems like a solution that has worked for me.
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I dunno, mine has locked up since my last post in this thread (4 days ago). Maybe it's just luck, but so far that seems like a solution that has worked for me.
Yeah, I'm with ya on that one. It started with 3 times a day and worked its way up to 7-10+ times EVERY SINGLE DAY since 3.1 has been out. Today I had absolutely had enough, by noon today it had already frozen on me 6 times, I couldn't tolerate it anymore and marched into the Genius Bar (with no appointment mind you) explained just how F-ed up the 3.1 software was and I need desperate help.
Thankfully the Genius I worked with was sympathetic (possibly also because I wasn't yelling or screaming like everyone else does), and he swapped my phone out for me. Much to my joy it was still on 3.0.1, where it will stay until this bug gets ironed out.
This post from someone named Mark on the apple.com support discussions sums up how Apple is responding thus far (even on their own support forums).
Yeah, that's right. There's a (now) 1,700 post thread with 150,000+ views and it's just getting ignored. Don't get your hopes up for a fix anytime soon...
Yeah, that's right. There's a (now) 1,700 post thread with 150,000+ views and it's just getting ignored. Don't get your hopes up for a fix anytime soon...
Ok, I just got home with my replace iPhone 3G. The genius plugged it in and within 4 seconds he knew immediately it was bad. I asked him how he knew so far, he said he saw all the crashes and this is a key pointer for the "coma".
He then said the only fix that Apple recommends is a replacement phone. So now I"m home with my replaced phone.
It came with 3.01 on it, and while I was tempted to leave it there, I'm upgrading it to 3.1 to prove a point to myself.
From those I"ve talked to, all of us that had the coma had early 3G. The 3 people that I know that just got their 3G had gotten them within the past 8 months. So maybe there was a chip level revision later in the build that 3.1 software works fine with. Who knows?
If this crashes, I told them I'll be right back looking for another solution.
Also while waiting, my wife talked to a guy picking up his new 3GS that said he worked for apple (not retail). He said the design of 3.1 software was set for the 3GS and they made it compatible with the 3G. At first I thought no chance, but then I thought that I haven't heard one problem with OS 3.1 on any 3GS. Maybe I'm wrong...
I'll let every one know if it crashed again. Fingers crossed.
He then said the only fix that Apple recommends is a replacement phone. So now I"m home with my replaced phone.
It came with 3.01 on it, and while I was tempted to leave it there, I'm upgrading it to 3.1 to prove a point to myself.
From those I"ve talked to, all of us that had the coma had early 3G. The 3 people that I know that just got their 3G had gotten them within the past 8 months. So maybe there was a chip level revision later in the build that 3.1 software works fine with. Who knows?
If this crashes, I told them I'll be right back looking for another solution.
Also while waiting, my wife talked to a guy picking up his new 3GS that said he worked for apple (not retail). He said the design of 3.1 software was set for the 3GS and they made it compatible with the 3G. At first I thought no chance, but then I thought that I haven't heard one problem with OS 3.1 on any 3GS. Maybe I'm wrong...
I'll let every one know if it crashed again. Fingers crossed.
Kinda same story. Installed 3.1, it was crashing (had other problems) and i went into apple. Genius restored it, 20 minutes later it crashed.
Got my replacement today, its 3.0.1 and I am NOT upgrading it. Period.
My 3G was purchased a couple of weeks after the intro and it runs 3.1 with no ill effects whatsoever, so there's something other than build date going on here for those that are having problems.
Well it was the thought that counts, right?
However, I upgraded yesterday and so far no lock ups that I can see. Fingers crossed.
My 3G was continually locking up over and over every 3 days. I could watch the memory creep up to max and it would never release it.
I rolled my phone back to 3.0 and have had no lockups since and it is going on day 6. I was on Beta 3.1 and it was just as bad. I don't think that it should have been released to be honest.
I rolled my phone back to 3.0 and have had no lockups since and it is going on day 6. I was on Beta 3.1 and it was just as bad. I don't think that it should have been released to be honest.
I did the same thing proving a point to myself with the phone I got replaced from Apple it had 3.01 on it and I upgraded to 3.1 havn't had any more issues (yet *knocks on wood* )
Fiance... not sure why I slipped that extra "e" in there, that's me.
We're going to replace her phone AGAIN this friday. I REFUSE to just be stuck on 3.01. I make them update it and we go from there. No reason she should be delegated to an older firmware for whatever reason.
We're going to replace her phone AGAIN this friday. I REFUSE to just be stuck on 3.01. I make them update it and we go from there. No reason she should be delegated to an older firmware for whatever reason.
Fiance... not sure why I slipped that extra "e" in there, that's me.
We're going to replace her phone AGAIN this friday. I REFUSE to just be stuck on 3.01. I make them update it and we go from there. No reason she should be delegated to an older firmware for whatever reason.
Why do you need 3.1? What are you doing on your iPhone that makes it so you NEED 3.1? I think having a stable phone is more important than a few small bug fixes. If you keep upgrading to 3.1, you'll most likely keep having problems. How many times can Apple give you a new phone because you feel you NEED to upgrade to 3.1?
I didn't say which Tuesday... I have no idea. Updates just *usually* come out on Tuesdays... so I thought... what the heck.
Downgraded my 3G today back to 3.0.1
Seems to be going ok so far. Will post in 24 hours. Used this guide.
http://www.redmondpie.com/downgrade-iphone-3.1-to-3.0.1/
I LOVE my iPhone again lol!
Seems snappier?
Seems to be going ok so far. Will post in 24 hours. Used this guide.
http://www.redmondpie.com/downgrade-iphone-3.1-to-3.0.1/
I LOVE my iPhone again lol!
Seems snappier?
Honestly, and you obviously have a different opinion on this, there should not be any reason why a phone under warranty should not function as it is supposed to on the new firmware.
They test it and release it for a reason.
My fiance does not NEED 3.1, but there isn't any reason she should not be allowed to have the phone working properly under it. She's under warranty, I am not. My phone works absolutely fine.
We paid $300 for the 3G and are given a 1 year warranty. If it doesn't function properly, it's up to them to give us a replacement that does. Be it a software or a hardware problem.
What if we stay on 3.01, they release an update, and she is still screwed PLUS out of warranty? Doesn't sound like a pleasant scenario, does it?
So if you go to the doctor and find out that a certain peanut started making you sick every time you eat it... are you going to go home and eat that peanut again because you "should" be able to eat that peanut?
Why not just avoid having the problem until Apple fixes it. Cause if you keep upgrading to 3.1, then you'll most likely keep running into the same problem... and isn't it a pain to keep swapping out iPhones all the time over a software issue?
That's my point. You'd rather fight with your phone because of principal instead of understanding that there's an issue that Apple mistakenly created with 3.1 and wait for a fix.
Well here it is 24 hours later after apple replaced the phone. I upgraded it to 3.1 and so far things are good. No lock ups or coma yet.
Looks like early hardware doesn't like 3.1. Dunno it's just a guess.
Looks like early hardware doesn't like 3.1. Dunno it's just a guess.
You're comparing allergies that you have no control over to a consumer electronics device that is failing within warranty?
That's just absurd. There really is nothing else to say regarding the issue. The phone will continue to go back as long as it is under warranty. She doesn't need to deal with it, and there's a warranty for a reason be it software or hardware.
I'm not disagreeing with you that it's not right, but 3.1 is so insignificantly different from 3.0.1 that I see no real benefit to begin with. I don't see why it's worth the hassle of of continually swapping out phones and setting each one up again. To gain what functionality exactly? Won't continually returning her phone be more of an inconvenience to her than just using a stable 3.0.1 that works fine?
3.1 is complete crap...just wait for Apple to fix it.
To be fair do you have control over 3.1? Can you fix it yourself? Go ahead keep installing 3.1 and keep getting the freeze-ups. Unless you can fix it yourself, my peanut analogy works.
Why KEEP RE-CREATING THE PROBLEM instead of sticking to something that DOESN'T have problems until the OTHER problem is fixed?