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4K Monitor Sucks!

kingtj said:
Come on.... You expect me to believe you shelled out for the Sharp 4K monitor with the new Mac Pro and didn't do any research first, and now you're upset that the fonts look small on it, etc. And NOW you're asking MacRumors for advice on alternatives to it?

IMO, it's pretty clear that 4K displays are the new, over-hyped thing to drive display sales, and just like 3D HDTV, it's only going to matter to a niche segment of the market unless prices drop so far, it becomes pretty much standard-issue.

From all the reviews of the new 4K display offerings I've seen so far, you're looking at the classic immature marketplace. You've got far more vendors promising new models than actually selling them, and left and right they're trying to sell you less than 4K pixel resolution but call it 4K anyway by "rounding up". Half the stuff has synchronization problems with the new Mac Pro too, right now. As usual, Dell is out there trying to offer a product before most of the others are ready and at competitive prices, but it's going to be in a typical, ugly looking enclosure and you'll regret buying the first model instead of waiting until later in the year when it's replaced with better versions at half the price.

I'm interested in a new Mac Pro myself, but not going to bother spending much on displays. IMO, you'll do great with a pair of 27" IPS panel displays from Samsung, Dell, HP, or any other similar vendor, coupled with a good monitor stand designed to VESA mount both of them. Don't bother with any of Apple's Cinema Displays unless you get some steal of a deal on a used or refurbished one. They're way overpriced just to have the matching Apple logo on them.
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Honestly this guy does not need advise, sorry but he's just a bragger. I don't care, even if I was rich I would still research things. Get a couple of NEC 27/30" monitors and in a year from now, 4K will be a different level. Mr tong out of interest what would you use 6 apple monitors for?
P**n! X6. #
 
I saw one of these displays at a Apple store today connected to a nMP. I can't believe how crappy this display looked in comparison to Apple's products. The monitor is a cheap looking plastic monitor. I can't believe that Apple is offering this product on their site. It's very unlike Apple and I can't imagine why they're offering it much less displaying it in their retail stores. I'd never in a million years pay 3 grand for this display.
 
abluehaze said:
I saw one of these displays at a Apple store today connected to a nMP. I can't believe how crappy this display looked in comparison to Apple's products. The monitor is a cheap looking plastic monitor. I can't believe that Apple is offering this product on their site. It's very unlike Apple and I can't imagine why they're offering it much less displaying it in their retail stores. I'd never in a million years pay 3 grand for this display.
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But how was the quality of the displayed image?
 
IMHO, the issue is not the 4K monitor. The monitor is fine...

Problem is OS X and total utter lack of visual accessibility. Apple's idea of accessibility is to zoom into the screen to read something you can't at normal size.

Who the hell can work like that?!

Accessible OS would have *all* GUI elements, in any application, scalable (responsive) to user adjustable size through some accessibility menu.

Sadly, Mac OS X is not one of those OSes, alas Apple thinks the World has to conform to their twisted view of accessibility standards, instead of adopting established practices. This falls under the same category of why we still use a mouse instead of extending our arms and touching the screen, for hours on.

Situation is similar to Micro$oft...they at some point in time thought they could write their own Web standards by inventing HTML tags and attributes. It only took 11 major revisions of IE to finally come to their senses.

Perhaps OS X 11.0 will be the one? :D
 
People are still taking this thread seriously?

We've already found:
- HiDPI mode can be enabled on the Mac Pro, just like the MacBook Pro.
- OP isn't paying attention to people telling him that and complains about text being too small, even after being giving the exact solution to fix his problem.
- He commands the thread to find him a new monitor, again ignoring the fix.
- People continue to pretend this is a serious thread. These people for some reason also ignore that Retina output can be enabled.

C'mon now. This guys has about enough business talking seriously about nice monitors as a toddler has flying a 747. He's just throwing money at things he doesn't understand, and then has no idea how to set them up or use them. Assuming it's not just a troll account to begin with.

Let the thread die.
 
Windows 8.1 running in Parallels, in 4K, of course.

I still don't know which one to buy.
 
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goMac said:
People are still taking this thread seriously?

We've already found:
- HiDPI mode can be enabled on the Mac Pro, just like the MacBook Pro.
- OP isn't paying attention to people telling him that and complains about text being too small, even after being giving the exact solution to fix his problem.
- He commands the thread to find him a new monitor, again ignoring the fix.
- People continue to pretend this is a serious thread. These people for some reason also ignore that Retina output can be enabled.

C'mon now. This guys has about enough business talking seriously about nice monitors as a toddler has flying a 747. He's just throwing money at things he doesn't understand, and then has no idea how to set them up or use them. Assuming it's not just a troll account to begin with.

Let the thread die.
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I seriously need assistance with this matter. Can you just summarize what you'd like me to do?
 
Just enabled HiDPI Mode.

Is this very stupid of me considering I paid all that money for this monitor to run it in a low resolution?!
 
Newsflash.

Apple took 3+ years to update the MacPro and it is still half-baked. Fat Phil gets on stage bragging about supporting 3 x 4k screens at once. Yet... the OS and drivers have non-existent support.

Thanks Apple!
 
After some time dealing with the 4k phenomena, i come to the point to use two dell U2713H screens with the nMP.

I will change at this time when i get a 2560x1440 resolution in HiDPI.
 
Congrats on making it to my ignore list

You have exactly two kinds of posts:
  • Pictures to brag about your swag
  • Baseless complaints

Now I don't have to see them any more.
 
mrkennethtong said:
Doesn't me running in this mode defeat the purpose of me having 4K!?
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No—HiDPI mode turns on “Retina” mode, so text and graphics should look a lot better with it enabled.
A 4K “Retina display” only has the workspace of a 1080p monitor though.

My post here explains the issues you are seeing with this display in detail: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18647140/

In short:

OS X is built around 100 pixels per inch displays—200 PPI with Retina.
The Sharp monitor you have bought is either too small to be used as a non-retina display with a large workspace (140 PPI) or too large to be used as a retina display. (70 PPI equivalent)

Windows supports 125% and 150% scale factors, which OS X does not.
The Sharp monitor is ideally suited to these. (109 PPI/92 PPI equivalents)


If you plan on using OS X, you need a 4K display which is either ~22″ in size (“Retina”/HiDPI mode enabled) or ~44″ using 3840x2160 natively.
Alternatively, switch to Windows to use 125/150% scaling with your current display, depending on your preference.
 
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mrkennethtong said:
Doesn't me running in this mode defeat the purpose of me having 4K!?
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Dude, the 4k display is going to give you a HiDPI 1080p display. Unless you run it at a 4k resolution, then you will whine about the text being too small (because you are running such a high resolution).

It's obvious you don't need a 4K display and just have more money than you know what to do with. 4K displays are for two things. Running HiDPI 1080 or running a 4k resolution for added workspace. That's it.

MacPro, 4K display, and I bet all you do is surf the web. What a waste.
 
check facts before typing...

macpro2000 said:
And fresnel lenses correlate with prisms, for alignment of images, not magnification.
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You should have Yahoo!'d or Bing'd for "magnifying Fresnel lens" before typing.

It's a lens. It can magnify, shrink, align or do what most other lenses can do.

And, by the way, the "s" is completely silent and the first "e" is a hard "a" with the accent subtlety on the second syllable - it's pronounced "'fray nell´' lens". ;)
 
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