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To use nvflash on the MP to flash my 8800GT I did the following:

1) Download the fdfullcd.iso from freedos.org - burn the ISO image to a CD.

2) While in OSX put the CD into the MP then do a restart. After your screen goes blank, press and hold the 'option' key while the MP reboots. You will get a screen that gives you options on what to boot from, you should have at least two and possibly three options. Pick the icon that looks like a CD and is likely labelled "Windows". Click the up arrow underneath the icon.

3) FreeDOS will boot and give you a splash screen with some options, choose 1 (Continue to boot FreeDOS)

4) There will be a bunch of text followed by another set of options, choose 3 (boot DOS with Himem etc.) NOTE: to select option 3, hit the number 3 key on the keyboard, do not attempt to use the arrow keys to scroll the selection up and down. No need to hit enter, immediately after entering 3 the system will continue to boot. You will see error messages regarding the CDROM drive, these can be ignored.

5) You will be left at a DOS prompt on A:, which I presume is a ram disk.

At this point you need access to the nvflash program and possibly some read/write disk area if you wish to save a copy of your existing flash image.

I have bootcamp installed and FreeDOS recognized this partition and mounted it R/W for me as drive C: - problem solved! I used OSX to move nvflash and the previously posted MP8800 image files to the root of my BOOTCAMP drive, then booted FreeDOS to save my original flash and re-flash with the mac image. Instructions provided in previous posts to this thread on how to use nvflash to check the size of your flash and perform the actual image update.

If you don't have bootcamp installed you could try two options, use the bootcamp assistant to install bootcamp to the part where it wants the Windows CD and then quit. At that point you should have a DOS formatted partition on your hard drive that FreeDOS will see and use. Proceed as above. I saw one post somewhere that said it was necessary to have the Windows installer format the bootcamp C: drive before it was useable. If this is true, then it may require that you use FreeDOS to format that partition before it can be used. Make sure you format the correct piece of disk;) When complete you can use the bootcamp assistant again to remove the DOS partition.

Second option would be to see if you could slipstream nvflash (and MP8800 image) into the FreeDOS image before burning to CD. Not sure on specific instructions on how to do this, having never needed to do it myself. This would allow you to flash a card, but not make a backup of the original image. Not recommended unless you're sure it will work. Could be used to test a card to check it's flash size in either a MP or PC.

Well I injected the NVFLASH program into the ISO. But since FreeDOS cannot see the cd ... I can't load the NVFLASH EXE.

Also you can run 2 cards in the MP the ATI which the MAC see's and the 8800 which will boot into windows. Unfortunatly when booting into the Mac side of things the 8800 fan is going at Full tilt. Also my PNY card's color is Blue the laminated part... the Actual Board is green but its Blue for the most part.

I'm going to have to wait until I have access to a real pc with a boot disk.
I dont want to format my NTFS partition just to find out I have the wrong card.
 
I've RMA'd my card and got myself a BFG 8800GT OC 512... and nearly flung it against the wall when I saw it had a black PCB. But I tried to flash it anyway and, lo and behold, it has a 128K EEPROM ! So, two new datapoints :

Gainward 8800GT 1G (red PCB) -> Nope
BFG 8800GT OC 512MB (black PCB) -> OK

The BFG card's P/N is BFGR88512GTOCE.

And now, a question for pipomolo42 : it's probably possible to replace the BIOS part of the Apple card's ROM by whatever ROM the card previously had in order to conserve factory overclocks and TV I/O capabilities in BootCamp, right? Is it as simple as cat'ing the two together ? If not, would it be possible to write an utility to turn a BIOS ROM into an hybrid one?

AG

I bought the same exact BFG P/N number from Best Buy this afternoon and it has the 64kb, but luckily my wife had an MSI 8800GT in her PC and I stole that then through the BFG one in her machine. The MSI happened to have the 1024kbx1s. I lucked out. Now I am running both Mac OSX and Windows XP with an 8800GT. Still have to sort the cable thing out. I just used the molex cable and an extender. So far so good!! Thanks everyone!:D
 
and, this is ok to flash it,
sorry my english, but i´m spanish


i have a octo core macpro 2008 edition with ati hd2600 and i need a 8800 but i not pay the expensive price off apple store for this card

http://www.alternate.es/html/product/details.html?artno=JAXXL1&showTechData=true

erteclas I will sell you the one I have in my Mac Pro now because I'm going to get a different 8800GT. If you want one I'll give you one that guaranteed to work, (Stock Apple 8800GT) at a good price.

I'm looking at an overlocked edition which will cost me a premium price, but I will have an extra 8800GT card that I am more than wiling to give away at a reasonable rate.
 
I bought the same exact BFG P/N number from Best Buy this afternoon and it has the 64kb, but luckily my wife had an MSI 8800GT in her PC and I stole that then through the BFG one in her machine. The MSI happened to have the 1024kbx1s. I lucked out. Now I am running both Mac OSX and Windows XP with an 8800GT. Still have to sort the cable thing out. I just used the molex cable and an extender. So far so good!! Thanks everyone!:D

very well , could you please make a foto of your MSI FRONT and BACK side and POST it here. MSI has RED and Green PCB layout !
 
When the 8800GT first came out, all the companies just shipped NVidia's reference design. It seems the reference design had 128k eeprom. Then as time went by they all made their own (cheaper, overclocked, etc.) variants and some of these have 64k. So perhaps if you can find "old stock" or "second hand" you will have a better chance of getting 128k.
 
Well I injected the NVFLASH program into the ISO. But since FreeDOS cannot see the cd ... I can't load the NVFLASH EXE.

Bummer. Must be an issue with the CD driver that's in FreeDOS not liking the CDROM drive in the MP.

Do you have a spare SATA hard drive you could install temporarily and use for bootcamp?

Or perhaps an old CD drive that you could install into the second optical bay - boot FreeDOS from the existing drive and then see if you can access the second drive where you would have put a CD with only nvflash and the mp8800gt.rom file?
 
Bummer. Must be an issue with the CD driver that's in FreeDOS not liking the CDROM drive in the MP.

Do you have a spare SATA hard drive you could install temporarily and use for bootcamp?

Or perhaps an old CD drive that you could install into the second optical bay - boot FreeDOS from the existing drive and then see if you can access the second drive where you would have put a CD with only nvflash and the mp8800gt.rom file?

I think I have a sata drive that I can use .. good idea...thanks
 
I think I have a sata drive that I can use .. good idea...thanks

I had to do something strange with the freedos. I integrated the .rom and the nvflash onto the cd using Ultra ISO. Once I did that I booted using the CD and then chose the install Freedos to hard drive option. When I came to a screen I then pressed escape to exit the install. It gave me some more options. One was to boot by CD again and go to command prompt. I then saw a drive letter of "X:" I could then see everything and ran NVFlash. Don't know if this is what you meant or not. I just bypassed the whole safe mode not loading drivers all that.
 
very well , could you please make a foto of your MSI FRONT and BACK side and POST it here. MSI has RED and Green PCB layout !

I sure will. I will have to upload it a bit later. Me and the wife are streaming from this system to our Apple TV. When she goes to bed I will pull it and take some photos. I don't need to take the heatsink off the front though right? Just take pics of it intact?

Anyway here is the one I bought back in November for my Wife's *shiver* PC. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127311

Sorry for the blur. Took them with my iPhone.

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8800GTc.JPG
 
I am having no luck SLI'ing two EVGA 8800 GT's. I was realy hopping that we would have this feature, but I am told that the board needs to support it as well. (I have attached the SLI Bridge)

If anyone has any suggestions, please let them rip...
 
Home built cable

I ordered the parts to make a power cable yesterday afternoon, and today at noon they showed up at my door! Amazing service.

Took about 1.5 hours to put it together, photos attached. The connector for the 8800 end isn't exactly the right one and needed a quick 'adjustment' with a sharp knife.

I ordered quantities of ten to get a price break (and in case I needed a second try:)), so I have parts left over for nine more. PM if interested.
 

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I am having no luck SLI'ing two EVGA 8800 GT's. I was realy hopping that we would have this feature, but I am told that the board needs to support it as well. (I have attached the SLI Bridge)

If anyone has any suggestions, please let them rip...


it is not the Logic Board , it is NVIDIA Blocking the Board with their driver , cause of the Intel chipset.
but there are HACK Nvidia driver ,just google and you will find a MOD Driver to get SLI in Action .

crossfire by qay is 100% supported via ATI Catalyist latest Version.

but SLI with 2 HD2600Xt sucks anyway ! would be nice to get 2 HD3870 OC in xfire.:)
 
Sorry for the long response time SuperGrobi, I was busy with biochem research all day. I bought this card literally the week they came out, 10/30/07 to be exact. It has a green PCB, and since its the older model it has the smaller fan. Let me know if I could be of any more help.

Thanks for the info. I bought the card you mentioned yesterday (11/07). The PCB was black, so I was really worried at first that I might have a different EEPROM but still I was lucky! The card is now running fine in Mac OS and Win XP. Only drawback is that it is not overclocked anymore at this time 600MHz / 1800MHz. I guess by modifying the Bios within the 128k ROM to match the original Bios it came with I should be able to get the original performance back - at least I would like to have that in XP. What kind of software did you use to modify your Bios?
Thanks again for the hint to try this card!
 
it is not the Logic Board , it is NVIDIA Blocking the Board with their driver , cause of the Intel chipset.
but there are HACK Nvidia driver ,just google and you will find a MOD Driver to get SLI in Action .

crossfire by qay is 100% supported via ATI Catalyist latest Version.

but SLI with 2 HD2600Xt sucks anyway ! would be nice to get 2 HD3870 OC in xfire.:)

Are you sure about that? All info I found so far suggested that the new Mac Pro board might not allow to use SLI anymore? Well, I have a second overclocked GT8800 lying around here (64k rom, humh) and I would love to see the two in SLI! Anybody have a link that actually describes a 2008 Mac Pro running SLI?
 
I have found very little when searching Google. I found some 83.10 drivers used several years back, but nothing that would be of use today. If someone finds modded drivers, please let me know so I can post some benchmarks.

Thanks in advance!
 
Thanks for the info. I bought the card you mentioned yesterday (11/07). The PCB was black, so I was really worried at first that I might have a different EEPROM but still I was lucky! The card is now running fine in Mac OS and Win XP. Only drawback is that it is not overclocked anymore at this time 600MHz / 1800MHz. I guess by modifying the Bios within the 128k ROM to match the original Bios it came with I should be able to get the original performance back - at least I would like to have that in XP. What kind of software did you use to modify your Bios?
Thanks again for the hint to try this card!

Overclocking is totally possible with these cards. Just FYI there is an option in the bios to raise the voltage from 1.05 to 1.1 (not necessary but it helps). After doing this mod I raised my clocks to 750/1850/1000 - core/shaders/memory. I also edited the fan profile so that the fan spins up earlier. You guys will soon realize how hot these cards can run under heavy use.

**Please test any over clock in software before flashing it to the bios**

btw I'm jealous of the black pcb......it would look much better in my computer haha :)
 
Overclocking is totally possible with these cards. Just FYI there is an option in the bios to raise the voltage from 1.05 to 1.1 (not necessary but it helps). After doing this mod I raised my clocks to 750/1850/1000 - core/shaders/memory. I also edited the fan profile so that the fan spins up earlier. You guys will soon realize how hot these cards can run under heavy use.

**Please test any over clock in software before flashing it to the bios**

btw I'm jealous of the black pcb......it would look much better in my computer haha :)

Yup, board looks also very stylish in the Mac Pro - unfortunately I rarely keep the case open ;o)

Btw, I noticed that this card generates much less noise than it's successor - the new XXX card from XFX is a pain - even with closed case!
 
it is not the Logic Board , it is NVIDIA Blocking the Board with their driver , cause of the Intel chipset.
but there are HACK Nvidia driver ,just google and you will find a MOD Driver to get SLI in Action .

crossfire by qay is 100% supported via ATI Catalyist latest Version.

but SLI with 2 HD2600Xt sucks anyway ! would be nice to get 2 HD3870 OC in xfire.:)

Crossfire works but SLi doesn't. AFAIK no one has been able to get the GF8 series cards to work through hacked drivers. Only the GF7 series. Nvidia has closed whatever hole people were using, I guess.
 
thanks smg freak


so my main question now is out of the cards which have confirmed successes which one features the best performance ???

although makes me think the 8800gt from apple is only £130 to upgrade from an ati so should i just buy that ??

however even if i do i think i will pick up a pc 8800 at the right price so which one is the so called best ??

keep up the good work guys its because of people that innovations and breakthroughs occur !
 
thanks smg freak


so my main question now is out of the cards which have confirmed successes which one features the best performance ???

although makes me think the 8800gt from apple os only £130 to upgrade from a ati so should i just buy that ??

however even if i do i think i will pick up a pc 8800 at the right price so which one is the so called best ??

keep up the good work guys its because of people that innovations and breakthroughs occur !

Personally, I would buy the Mac Pro with the 8800GT upgrade instead of the stock ATI card - unless you are planning to use more than 2 displays

Flashing a PC card was a better option for me since this way I could get the Mac Pro in a shop without having to wait for it to ship. Now as the 8800GT Mac Pros are shipping I would simply order that one.

As far as you are concerned about performance, I think if you plan to flash a PC card you will anyway end up with the standard clock rates which are determined by the Mac bios ... unless you plan to edit the bios yourself before flashing. Of course you can overclock the card again in Windows but I made the experience that I am much more satisfied with a 600MHz card and thus low fan noise. At the moment I have an originally 670MHz overclocked card running in the Mac Pro at 600MHz and it is very quiet. When I tested it playing Crysis in Win XP I still reached 60C GPU temperature easily so I don't plan to do a lot of tuning to get maybe 10% more speed with the risk of damaging the card. Still the card is a rocket compared to the stock ATI :D

Just my opinion ... a real gamer will surely think different ;)
 
Personally, I would buy the Mac Pro with the 8800GT upgrade instead of the stock ATI card - unless you are planning to use more than 2 displays

Flashing a PC card was a better option for me since this way I could get the Mac Pro in a shop without having to wait for it to ship. Now as the 8800GT Mac Pros are shipping I would simply order that one.

As far as you are concerned about performance, I think if you plan to flash a PC card you will anyway end up with the standard clock rates which are determined by the Mac bios ... unless you plan to edit the bios yourself before flashing. Of course you can overclock the card again in Windows but I made the experience that I am much more satisfied with a 600MHz card and thus low fan noise. At the moment I have an originally 670MHz overclocked card running in the Mac Pro at 600MHz and it is very quiet. When I tested it playing Crysis in Win XP I still reached 60C GPU temperature easily so I don't plan to do a lot of tuning to get maybe 10% more speed with the risk of damaging the card. Still the card is a rocket compared to the stock ATI :D

Just my opinion ... a real gamer will surely think different ;)

i would buy the MAC PRO with Standard ATI , than i would sell the ATI card on eBAY ( hd2600 works 100% in all MAC PRO 2006 /2007 /2008, than i get me a PC 8800GT Medium Clocked like 650/1900 and flash it .

1. Get the Mac for standard Price
2. Sell ATI get some Extra Cash Back
3 buy a 8800GT OC

i managend to edit my bios with Nibitor latest build , flashed it back to Original Leadtek now i hae GPU 650 / Shader 1625 / 1900 RAM and 14346 points 3dmark06 ! it is fantastic
 
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interesting ideas guys i may see how much the ati's are going for on ebay and hell yeah i was always going with the 8800 so dont worry about that hmmm but we shall see i may just go with apple although i will research the cost implications

thanks

smgfreak and other good thread keep it going :)
 
Just to give an heads up:

The eVGA 8800 GT KO Crysis edition had a 1024k rom chip! It works perfectly after flashing in my 2008 mac pro.

P/N: 512-P3-E802-AE

Happy hunting ! ;)
 
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