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appleincognito

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I was experimenting the usual 1% per hour like many of the users.

Then I tried the method described some post before with an add on: I unpaired my APP2 from ANY device they where paired to: MacBook, iPhone 12, iPhone 14 PM.

Then pair again and charge until the case reached 100%.

Well, the case is still at 100% from 72h 😳 weird.

I’ve never used the AirPods since the charge.

Today i’ll try to use the airpods, then i’ll keep monitored the case.


EDIT #1

I tried the buds for 20 minutes. The case went immediatly to 96% after i put the buds in, then it settled to 91% after the buds charge was completed. Let see if it starts dropping 1% per hour as before.

EDIT #2

1 hour, 1% The usual routine seems started again
Can you try turning off find my network in AirPods settings and seeing if that fixed?
 

Jutah

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But how? First unpaired it via the bluetooth menu on your iPhone and next on the site(?) iCloud.com?

1) i removed the devices on iCloud.com.
2) i manually unpaired via bluetooth (i think that the step #1 automatically unpaired the device but it wasn't so).
3) reset APP2 (long press the back button until the led blinks of an orange/red light and you hear a sound)
4) paired again
 
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Aristurtle

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Can you try turning off find my network in AirPods settings and seeing if that fixed?
Didn’t know that one could disconnect it from the find my network and still have it paired. I used the find my app. That caused also an unpairing.
Great find. Gonna try this. Battery life and a better sound quality is so much more important to me than this gimmick. I was already looking for a way to use a APP 1 case with the APP 2 buds.
Hope this trick will help though.
 
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Jutah

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I was experimenting the usual 1% per hour like many of the users.

Then I tried the method described some post before with an add on: I unpaired my APP2 from ANY device they where paired to: MacBook, iPhone 12, iPhone 14 PM.

Then pair again and charge until the case reached 100%.

Well, the case is still at 100% from 72h 😳 weird.

I’ve never used the AirPods since the charge.

Today i’ll try to use the airpods, then i’ll keep monitored the case.


EDIT #1

I tried the buds for 20 minutes. The case went immediatly to 96% after i put the buds in, then it settled to 91% after the buds charge was completed. Let see if it starts dropping 1% per hour as before.

EDIT #2

1 hour, 1% The usual routine seems started again

Update #3
After 8hours the case battery still sits at 90%.
 
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appleincognito

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Didn’t know that one could disconnect it from the find my network and still have it paired. I used the find my app. That caused also an unpairing.
Great find. Gonna try this. Battery life and a better sound quality is so much more important to me than this gimmick. I was already looking for a way to use a APP 1 case with the APP 2 buds.
Hope this trick will help though.
Please come back with an update if it solved it. All it will do is remove the ability to accurately find them on a map and they will behave like APP1 in terms of find my ability
 

Aristurtle

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Please come back with an update if it solved it. All it will do is remove the ability to accurately find them on a map and they will behave like APP1 in terms of find my ability
Well, this solved the problem completely! Lost nearly 2% in 14 hours.

So this crappy find-my feature uses 1% battery life per hour!


Direct from the beginning my hypothesis was that this feature was the culprit of the sucking of APP 2 battery life. And it was corroborated by the fact that both Apple repair and a authorised service provider diagnosed that there was nothing wrong. Problem was that I didn't know how to turn this off. As I said, when I removed the APP 2 with the find-my app, the APP 2 disconnected from the iPhone also. I had to pair it again and as a bonus I get this crazy battery sucking 'one more thing' feature back again.

Shame that Apple support did not mentioned this and instead want to make me believe that 1% per hour battery loss in unused standby mode is normal.

They should mention this in the battery specs then one could leave it to a potential buyer if it is worth it. For me it would be no problem. The way they solved the issue now was that I got a really bad impression of Apple. As a long time user of countless products my trust sank from normal/high to a minimal level in no time. Great job, go find-yourself Apple.
 

senbai

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So mine stopped losing battery charge in standby after a few days and I still have the Find My feature turned on!
But what I still have is the high battery consumption of the case when charging the buds.
 
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So mine stopped losing battery charge in standby after a few days and I still have the Find My feature turned on!
But what I still have is the high battery consumption of the case when charging the buds.
Yes crazy that it still uses 1% of case to charge 1% of buds for me
 
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Well, this solved the problem completely! Lost nearly 2% in 14 hours.

So this crappy find-my feature uses 1% battery life per hour!


Direct from the beginning my hypothesis was that this feature was the culprit of the sucking of APP 2 battery life. And it was corroborated by the fact that both Apple repair and a authorised service provider diagnosed that there was nothing wrong. Problem was that I didn't know how to turn this off. As I said, when I removed the APP 2 with the find-my app, the APP 2 disconnected from the iPhone also. I had to pair it again and as a bonus I get this crazy battery sucking 'one more thing' feature back again.

Shame that Apple support did not mentioned this and instead want to make me believe that 1% per hour battery loss in unused standby mode is normal.

They should mention this in the battery specs then one could leave it to a potential buyer if it is worth it. For me it would be no problem. The way they solved the issue now was that I got a really bad impression of Apple. As a long time user of countless products my trust sank from normal/high to a minimal level in no time. Great job, go find-yourself Apple.
In addition to fixing standby drain, Did it also fix the case using up too much % to charge the AirPods? For example if you discharge your AirPods to 96% and put them back in the case will it use 4% of the case to get them back to 100%? That’s the issue I’m having
 

senbai

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In addition to fixing standby drain, Did it also fix the case using up too much % to charge the AirPods? For example if you discharge your AirPods to 96% and put them back in the case will it use 4% of the case to get them back to 100%? That’s the issue I’m having
Only 4%? Mine would use about 10%!
 

Jack_SB

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After so many weeks the battery standby drain is still completely random.
Sometimes you leave the case for days and there’s nothing or almost nothing going on and other times it goes down 5-10-15% for literally no reason.

But of course the worst is that it takes about 1 to 1 percentage wise to charge the AirPods from the case. Or at least that’s what we see.
How can you charge them from 0 to 100 4 times with the case when you actually can’t even charge them twice before the case is dead?

I mean, I get the small letters regarding battery life here and there about volume, anc, spatial audio etc. But 24 extra hours from the case is just impossible when we can’t even get half of that in a week or so.
 
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Aristurtle

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In addition to fixing standby drain, Did it also fix the case using up too much % to charge the AirPods? For example if you discharge your AirPods to 96% and put them back in the case will it use 4% of the case to get them back to 100%? That’s the issue I’m having
Haha, I'm already so happy with the normal battery loss when not connected to the find-my network that I'm at a place at the moment that all seems right.

But yeah, I did noticed some weird things in this department also. Will monitor this for a couple of days.
 

SocksWthSandals

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After a long call and chatting with a higher up support rep I was told that the 1-1 % drain from the buds to the case is going to be more noticeable in the lower % area. Like if you listen to your buds and they go down to 90%, your case is going to be more of a 1-1 and drop down to 90%, BUT if you drain the buds more, say 50% the case wont drain as much.

Which is what I have been noticing to be true at least in my case. Ive drained the buds to about 50% and the case only eats up about 15% of itself recharging the buds back to 100%.

So makes sense but also kinda ****** because you wont get anywhere near the 26 hour case life if you only listen to your buds for a half hour or an hour a day and the case is getting drained at a 1-1.
 

senbai

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After a long call and chatting with a higher up support rep I was told that the 1-1 % drain from the buds to the case is going to be more noticeable in the lower % area. Like if you listen to your buds and they go down to 90%, your case is going to be more of a 1-1 and drop down to 90%, BUT if you drain the buds more, say 50% the case wont drain as much.

That’s what I noticed, too. Did you get an explanation for that?
 

SocksWthSandals

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That’s what I noticed, too. Did you get an explanation for that?
Not really other than "it takes a lot from the case to jump start the charge on the buds so in the lower end is where you will see that 1-1"... Which I mean... I dont think thats how charging works, at least not in any pair of earbuds Ive ever owned... But hey who am I to say? 😅
 
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After a long call and chatting with a higher up support rep I was told that the 1-1 % drain from the buds to the case is going to be more noticeable in the lower % area. Like if you listen to your buds and they go down to 90%, your case is going to be more of a 1-1 and drop down to 90%, BUT if you drain the buds more, say 50% the case wont drain as much.

Which is what I have been noticing to be true at least in my case. Ive drained the buds to about 50% and the case only eats up about 15% of itself recharging the buds back to 100%.

So makes sense but also kinda ****** because you wont get anywhere near the 26 hour case life if you only listen to your buds for a half hour or an hour a day and the case is getting drained at a 1-1.
There has never been a pair of AirPods that got close to the fully advertised battery life from the case unless all you do is listen to the AirPods, immediately charge them to 100 percent, and then immediately start listening again. That’s the only way to get close to the advertised battery life because otherwise you have to deal with the normal draining of the battery in the case, and then the case topping off the AirPods in an attempt to keep them at 100 percent when removed from the case.
 

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There has never been a pair of AirPods that got close to the fully advertised battery life from the case unless all you do is listen to the AirPods, immediately charge them to 100 percent, and then immediately start listening again. That’s the only way to get close to the advertised battery life because otherwise you have to deal with the normal draining of the battery in the case, and then the case topping off the AirPods in an attempt to keep them at 100 percent when removed from the case.
Dude please. Standby drain is an issue for some but for others it's just that the case drops way too much when charging just a few percentages. My case drops 0% over the night for example, so there's no issue at all for me with any "topping off drain". But the case doesn't hold 4 recharges as it's advertised to do, more like 2 recharges. Which gives me a total listening time of 13-14 hours, that's like 15 hours less than I should get according to Apple.
 
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Minarets

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Yeah I thought I had lost my OG AirPods Pro that I left in my travel bag from September and found them this weekend. They were at 94% battery when I opened them up. I didn’t even think that was possible. Was expecting them to be completely dead.

Whereas I charged the APP2 on Thursday night and didn’t use them this weekend at all but the case was at 72% when I picked them up this morning. Kinda nuts.
 

SocksWthSandals

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There has never been a pair of AirPods that got close to the fully advertised battery life from the case unless all you do is listen to the AirPods, immediately charge them to 100 percent, and then immediately start listening again. That’s the only way to get close to the advertised battery life because otherwise you have to deal with the normal draining of the battery in the case, and then the case topping off the AirPods in an attempt to keep them at 100 percent when removed from the case.
So, youre telling me airpods case charging mechanics is far inferior to other ear buds charging cases? Havent had an issue before where I listened to some earbuds for 10% of the earbud power and they drained 10-12% of the case. Your excuses and explanations are lazy and not great.
 
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So, youre telling me airpods case charging mechanics is far inferior to other ear buds charging cases? Havent had an issue before where I listened to some earbuds for 10% of the earbud power and they drained 10-12% of the case. Your excuses and explanations are lazy and not great.
You’ve never owned a pair of AirPods that weren’t constantly, albeit slower than when out of the case, draining battery inside the case. The only time AirPods don’t do that while in the case is when you remove the AirPods from your account via settings and then reset the AirPods via the button on the case. It’s hilarious that some of you think I’m trolling when this has been known since the very first AirPods. Hell, people complained about the Max because they behave in the same exact manner due to also not having an off button. Go post your issue on the official forums at Apple and then call all the people telling you exactly what I did trolls. Lol
 

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You’ve never owned a pair of AirPods that weren’t constantly, albeit slower than when out of the case, draining battery inside the case. The only time AirPods don’t do that while in the case is when you remove the AirPods from your account via settings and then reset the AirPods via the button on the case. It’s hilarious that some of you think I’m trolling when this has been known since the very first AirPods. Hell, people complained about the Max because they behave in the same exact manner due to also not having an off button. Go post your issue on the official forums at Apple and then call all the people telling you exactly what I did trolls. Lol
Herrpod: While I do not think you are a troll, I think you might be seeing this issue differently. I do have the original APP, and like others, I did not have the issues with the battery dropping by many percentage points in a day. In fact, much like someone else reported, my original APP were lost in the bottom of my bag for a month and after finding them, they were still at 100% and the case was at 96%. My case almost never lost battery on those.

On my APP2, my case drops down by 10-15% within a couple of days - even when not using them. To me, and like many others who upgraded, this is seen as odd behavior compared to the APP we had before.

I have found that when kept close to my phone, the percentage drops LESS than if I leave them home and they are “searching” for something to ping in FindMy.
 

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Herrpod: While I do not think you are a troll, I think you might be seeing this issue differently. I do have the original APP, and like others, I did not have the issues with the battery dropping by many percentage points in a day. In fact, much like someone else reported, my original APP were lost in the bottom of my bag for a month and after finding them, they were still at 100% and the case was at 96%. My case almost never lost battery on those.

On my APP2, my case drops down by 10-15% within a couple of days - even when not using them. To me, and like many others who upgraded, this is seen as odd behavior compared to the APP we had before.

I have found that when kept close to my phone, the percentage drops LESS than if I leave them home and they are “searching” for something to ping in FindMy.
The thing with AirPods is that they’re never off unless they’re not linked to an account. They’re always draining battery, which is why sometimes when you remove them from the case one Or both are at 99 percent, because the case hadn’t yet topped it off. When I first got AirPods I opened a few cases and returned a few pair because of this behavior. I assumed being in the case meant they were off, but Apple support set me straight. Huge battery loss isn’t normal at all, but it isn’t unusual to have the case lose 5-10 percent overnight.
 

eyespy03

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The thing with AirPods is that they’re never off unless they’re not linked to an account. They’re always draining battery, which is why sometimes when you remove them from the case one Or both are at 99 percent, because the case hadn’t yet topped it off. When I first got AirPods I opened a few cases and returned a few pair because of this behavior. I assumed being in the case meant they were off, but Apple support set me straight. Huge battery loss isn’t normal at all, but it isn’t unusual to have the case lose 5-10 percent overnight.
I hear you, but there are MANY who have a very different experience with the APP and APP2. While I understand that  may be saying one thing, myself and many others have had a different experience when the case on the APP did NOT lose ANY battery life over a few days or few weeks. And if so, it was 1-2% MAX in that time frame. All while still connected/linked to an account/phone

The APP2 experience is very different. I may lose 10% in one night and over a few days, it may only be 4%. There is a lot of inconsistency. And a LOT more case battery loss with APP2 than with the originals.

You can look at  forums all you want and talk to support, but the truth is there are a lot of use who do have both versions and are seeing differing battery amounts of battery drain from the case that is very odd and very different than what we had with the originals. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, but your contributions of telling us this is normal are assured based on the amount of us who are experiencing the same issue.
 

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I hear you, but there are MANY who have a very different experience with the APP and APP2. While I understand that  may be saying one thing, myself and many others have had a different experience when the case on the APP did NOT lose ANY battery life over a few days or few weeks. And if so, it was 1-2% MAX in that time frame. All while still connected/linked to an account/phone

The APP2 experience is very different. I may lose 10% in one night and over a few days, it may only be 4%. There is a lot of inconsistency. And a LOT more case battery loss with APP2 than with the originals.

You can look at  forums all you want and talk to support, but the truth is there are a lot of use who do have both versions and are seeing differing battery amounts of battery drain from the case that is very odd and very different than what we had with the originals. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, but your contributions of telling us this is normal are assured based on the amount of us who are experiencing the same issue.
It isn’t that I don’t agree. It’s how they’re designed to work. I hate it. There should be an off button so there’s never any drain when in the case, but that’s just not gonna happen, and what made that more clear was when they released the AirPods Max without a power button so that they’d be consistent with all the other AirPods.And just like all the other AirPods, they eventually go to sleep but still drain their own battery, thus necessitating the case to top them off. It’s not an opinion. It’s an objective irrefutable fact.
 
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