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Yes.

I want to just set it now to grab an IP via DHCP, but I can't get rid of the .99 address I entered manually.

Right-It's not got an I.P of .83 via DHCP and the router confirms that.

However.... no Airplay icon in either iTunes (wireless laptop or wired desktop).
 
It's got a DHCP address via ethernet (.83) and that's confirmed int he router (I've also reserved that address).

But I'm back to no iTunes Airplay icon.

The only time I've had an Airplay icon is wirelessly and even then all I can stream is what's on my iPhone or my Ipad, not from my wired desktop PC that has my library.

*Bangs whole body on floor*
 
Try restarting AE, router, admin util.

And plugging it in next to stereo and adding audio cable for good measure.

I think you're almost there. Probably.
 
Try restarting AE, router, admin util.

And plugging it in next to stereo and adding audio cable for good measure.

I think you're almost there. Probably.

Doing that now.

I'm just going to plug AE into wall-no ethernet cable-correct?

Or use an existing ethernet cable that I have in the living room?
 
It's got a DHCP address via ethernet (.83) and that's confirmed int he router (I've also reserved that address).

But I'm back to no iTunes Airplay icon.

The only time I've had an Airplay icon is wirelessly and even then all I can stream is what's on my iPhone or my Ipad, not from my wired desktop PC that has my library.

*Bangs whole body on floor*

As an aside, did you try the Remote app? That lets you connect to the pc from the iPad/phone and play the music on the pc to the AE. V. cool. If it works, obviously
 
As an aside, did you try the Remote app? That lets you connect to the pc from the iPad/phone and play the music on the pc to the AE. V. cool. If it works, obviously

Yes I did (on iPad and phone), but it only let me stream what's on that device.
 
  • AE plugged in to wall (factory reset already done before moving it).
  • LAN ethernet cable plugged into AE.
  • Optical cable also plugged in.
 
From wireless laptop:

"Airport found with default settings".

Now whether I click Manual setup or continue, it will ask me if I want to switch networks.
 
Also-it still has the reserved 192.168.1.83 address...

Pinging 192.168.1.83 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.83: bytes=32 time=390ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.1.83: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.1.83: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.1.83: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.83:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 390ms, Average = 97ms

C:\Users\Me>tracert 192.168.1.83

Tracing route to base-station-004f57.lan [192.168.1.83]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms base-station-004f57.lan [192.168.1.83]

Trace complete.

[Edit] - I can run the Utility from my wired desktop PC by selecting File>Configure other>enter I.P and default password of "public".
 
If I now click "Music" (without configuring anything else), I have an option (which I've never seen before) of "Enable Airplay over ethernet" :eek:

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[Edit] - Plus....

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Ok this is progress. Basically, if you can see it in Util from your wired pc, and you can check that box described above, it's gonna work I think. Set it up as per option 3, turning off the wireless and enabling AirTunes - using the wired pc to do it.


For Remote to work, you need to turn on home sharing in iTunes on all your devices, and have iTunes running on the comp you're trying to play from, and then it'll work.
 
Ok this is progress. Basically, if you can see it in Util from your wired pc, and you can check that box described above, it's gonna work I think. Set it up as per option 3, turning off the wireless and enabling AirTunes - using the wired pc to do it.

As I said, anything I do removes the "Enable Airplay over ethernet" option and I'm back to square 1. :(

For Remote to work, you need to turn on home sharing in iTunes on all your devices, and have iTunes running on the comp you're trying to play from, and then it'll work.

I can get remote to work on my iPhone and iPad, controlling the library that's on my wired PC.
 
You've set up the AE thats hardwired to the router in bridge mode right?

Any other AEs' are just set as join or extend.

I have 7xAEs forming the wireless network (covers about an acre) with speakers hooked to 4 of them, a hardwired mac mini serving the content out, and a hardwired ATV1 in the lounge which also acts as a receiver for music to the stereo system.

So Netgear router (wireless turned off)
1 x AE hardwired creating wireless network
6x AEs either joining or extending network (predominently set for speakers)
1 x Mac mini hardwired server
1 x iPad as controller

Ive looked at your screen shots but its been a long time since I switched from Windows.All I can think of is making sure your hardwired AE is set to bridge mode.

When I get there I usually just crack open my laptop, it hooks up straight away, and Airport Utility see's all the AE's. When I run Airport Utility from the mac mini, it also see's all the AEs.

I know Im not helping much but its the Bridge Mode thing I think is breaking your efforts here.


Actually looks like Gee nearly has you there. Sorry for being late to the party!!
 
Airplay and Airport Express

Just want to say that airplay and the airport express rock. This will be huge once the average joe blow catches on....

Got it hooked up in the house and the speakers out to the pool deck and all I have to do is sit on my but and control it from my iphone. Can't stand how cool this is.
 
A seriously confusing thread but from what I read you only have one wireless device (excluding iphone and ipad). You need two wireless devices:
- an AExpress, AExtreme or other wireless router
- the AExpress to act as a receiver(client)

A wireless router connects to the network and gets its ip address from the modem that's using dhcp and broadcasts the network. The AExpress acts as a client (join an existing network) and the hifi cables plug into it.

It sounds like your wired network is independent of your AExpress because if you set up the AE as the network, it will create its own dhcp ip addresses and that is why your wireless devices connect to it?

Do you have a wireless network other than the single AExpress?

My setup is similar to Omne666. I have a modem running dhcp, an AExpress connected to it and setup as the wireless router which all wireless devices connect to, and another AExpress as a client connected to my hifi and joined to an existing network. I can output from any device (ipad, notebook, iphone).

But, I have the notebook on the wireless not hardwired so instead of plugging your ethernet into the modem maybe it should be plugged into the wireless router.
 
A seriously confusing thread but from what I read you only have one wireless device (excluding iphone and ipad). You need two wireless devices:
- an AExpress, AExtreme or other wireless router
- the AExpress to act as a receiver(client)

I have a wireless N ADSL modem/router and a wireless N Airport Express.

A wireless router connects to the network and gets its ip address from the modem that's using dhcp and broadcasts the network. The AExpress acts as a client (join an existing network) and the hifi cables plug into it.

Yep, all good so far!

It sounds like your wired network is independent of your AExpress because if you set up the AE as the network, it will create its own dhcp ip addresses and that is why your wireless devices connect to it?

Yes, sounds feasible.

Do you have a wireless network other than the single AExpress?

My ISP is O2 and all I have is the BB connection that comes into that router and broadcasts in the house (it's what our iPhones, laptops etc also use).

My setup is similar to Omne666. I have a modem running dhcp, an AExpress connected to it and setup as the wireless router which all wireless devices connect to

I think I follow you here-you have a standalone broadband modem (as opposed to my combined ADSL modem/router), with an Airport Express connected to it via Ethernet-and it's the Airport that does the wireless broadcasting?

and another AExpress as a client connected to my hifi and joined to an existing network. I can output from any device (ipad, notebook, iphone).

So your 1st AE (that's connected to your modem) broadcasts wirelessly and your 2nd AE picks up that signal and passes it to your hifi?

But, I have the notebook on the wireless not hardwired so instead of plugging your ethernet into the modem maybe it should be plugged into the wireless router.

I'm not sure what you mean by plugging my ethernet into my modem.

It is all a bit confusing, that's my fault. :eek:

Here's the kit I have:

  • Wireless N O2 ADSL modem/router.
  • Router is in turn connected by 1 single ethernet lead to 24 port switch in garage (nothing else connected to router)
  • Ethernet connections from switch in garage to living room (for XBOX/Popcorn Hour etc) and also to office (hardwired PCs).
  • Apple Airport Express (Wireless N).
  • Wired PC (Actually 2 if I count my Wife's) with iTunes library(s) on.

What I would like to be able to do (in an ideal world) is simply stream music from the wired PC(s) to the Airport Express, which will be plugged in in the living room and connected via optical to my amp/speakers and have the AE extend the wifi further through the house.

I don't mind/care if the AE is connected in the living room by ethernet or wireless, just so long as I can send music from my hard wired PC(s) in the office to it!

I have an iPad and an iPhone and my Wife has an iPhone, so I'd like for us to be able to use the Remote app to select an album/playlist that is on the wired PC and send it to the Airport Express/speakers in the living room.

Hopefully that makes sense and thanks for all the help in this thread. :)
 
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Ok, so I'm starting again having done a(nother) factory reset. :rolleyes:

The AE is plugged in to the wall and has an ethernet cable in it. :)

Using my wired PC the Airport Utility doesn't find it initially, but I can get to it by specifiying the IP (showing in my "attached devices" section in router) of 192.168.1.83. (so far so good yes!?)

When the utility opens up, if I click on "Music", I get an option to enable Airtunes over ethernet. :eek:

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But...when I then click on "Airport" Tab and then "Wireless"

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If I then select "Join wireless network", "Extend Wireless Network", or "Off" etc, it removes the AirTunes over Ethernet option. :confused:

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I have a wireless N ADSL modem/router and a wireless N Airport Express.
OK, that makes more sense and is good.

I think I follow you here-you have a standalone broadband modem (as opposed to my combined ADSL modem/router), with an Airport Express connected to it via Ethernet-and it's the Airport that does the wireless broadcasting?
Yep, you got it.

From the sounds of things it doesn't make sense why you have an issue. Having a combined router/modem should make life easier as you only have one source for dhcp.

Is the switch configurable? If so, is it using dhcp too? All the devices should basically have consecutive (or similar) ip addresses. Eg my network is 192.168.1
- .1 modem
- .2 AExpress router
- .3 Notebook 1
- .4 Notebook 2
- .5 Ipad
- .6 Iphone 1
- .7 Iphone 2
- .8 ATV2

Can you ping them all from different devices?

If the switch is configurable it should be bridged and not using dhcp.

For my AExpress as a client connected to the hifi I have a simple setup:
- Join a wireless network
- Allow Ethernet clients
- Nothing on Internet tab - bridged is greyed out.
- Only 'Enable iTunes' checked on music tab..
- nothing on print or advanced tabs

I am not sure if someone asked this before but it HomeSharing ON the PC iTunes?

The only other thought I have is that the modem/router may be running/configured separately even thought its in the one box. Does it show what brand model it really is?

Or you could connect you PC to the network via wireless instead :)
 
In addition, regarding your last entry.
- I have never tried using ethernet for AExpress - didnt know it could do that
- I have nothing in Itunes Speaker Name and/or password
 
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