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Airport Express (Wireless N)-God Give Me Strength.

Azzin said:
Hmmm....

There's something strange I've just noticed-I can't use the "Remote" app to find my iTunes library... :eek:

I've enabled Home Sharing (and am signed in) by Advanced>Turn on Home Sharing.

This MUST be related...
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Could be, though you have to have iTunes running for it to work, which is none too convenient.

Anyways, I think the NAT problem needs solving. I can't replicate here, but I would have thought that if you have turned off wireless, then this issue shouldn't arise. If you click on it, you get that message you posted in the post above, right? And wireless is definitely off?
Give the thing a new password too, so that if we manage to solve both errors you'll be able to see the same status screen I can.
 
Could you just try enabling your wireless network on your router, connect the express by Ethernet and in the airport utility select join an existing wireless network.

Make sure you have enable AirTunes checked on the express. Unplug from the mains and router and the move it to your living room and plug it into an outlet and your stereo.

I believe that the Ethernet port is to:

a: allow a non wireless device to join a wireless network

You will not be able to extend a wireless network as this is only supported by airport extremes.

You could use an express to create a wireless network but then you would need another to receive the AirTunes stream.

As I posted earlier from the apple support pages.

AirPort Express can function as a full-fledged wireless access point, or it can join an existing network just to offer its wireless print server and audio features. When AirPort Express does that, it is in "client mode."

In client mode AirPort Express does not offer itself as a wireless access point or use its Ethernet port. As a wireless client, AirPort Express is simply a destination for AirTunes and print jobs. It can join both 802.11b and 802.11g networks, including those using security features such as WEP and WPA-PSK.
 
The OP's problem is that he wants to be able to stream music from his wired PC connected to his router, and thus far, has been unable to get the PC to see the Airport Express and get the Airtunes menu in iTunes.

The way you describe is essentially one of the options he originally tried that didn't solve the problem. I suggested he try setting up the AE as a remote wired client just for airtunes as a first step in solving the prob (i.e. to avoid any confusion with the AE's wireless and the wireless non-apple network he already has produced by the router).
 
As his wired pc is wired to his router and not he switch in his garage, he should enable his routers wireless function (which I believe he has done for iPhone/IPad access ) and connect his express to that for initial seup.

Airport utility should find his express, I have all macs but my wife has a pc and I tried this earlier and it worked.

He should be able to set the express to join his existing wireless network and enter his network and password.

He had managed this as his i-devices could connect, see post 15, change extend to join and connect wirelessly not Ethernet
 
gazpilot said:
As his wired pc is wired to his router and not he switch in his garage, he should enable his routers wireless function (which I believe he has done for iPhone/IPad access ) and connect his express to that for initial seup.

Airport utility should find his express, I have all macs but my wife has a pc and I tried this earlier and it worked.

He should be able to set the express to join his existing wireless network and enter his network and password.

He had managed this as his i-devices could connect, see post 15, change extend to join and connect wirelessly not Ethernet
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Yeh, he did all that to start with, and everything worked and connected and streamed music - iPhone, wireless laptop, etc. Except the wired PC. It is getting the wired PC to have the little airplay icon in ITunes that we're trying to solve.
 
I understand that, the airport will not stream over ethernet from his pc it must connect wirelessly with the airport in "join an existing wireless network mode"

Connect to express via LAN
select join existing wireless network, enter network details,
Enables AirTunes, deselect AirTunes over Ethernet
Save settings
Unplug express from wall
Unplug Ethernet from express
Plug express into wall (Do not connect Ethernet cable)
Wait for light to go green

"Yeh, he did all that to start with, and everything worked and connected and streamed music - iPhone, wireless laptop, etc. Except the wired PC. It is getting the wired PC to have the little airplay icon in ITunes that we're trying to solve."

His pc was connected to the express by Ethernet.
 
Hi guys :)

gazpilot said:
Connect to express via LAN
select join existing wireless network, enter network details,
Enables AirTunes, deselect AirTunes over Ethernet
Save settings
Unplug express from wall
Unplug Ethernet from express
Plug express into wall (Do not connect Ethernet cable)
Wait for light to go green

"Yeh, he did all that to start with, and everything worked and connected and streamed music - iPhone, wireless laptop, etc. Except the wired PC. It is getting the wired PC to have the little airplay icon in ITunes that we're trying to solve."

His pc was connected to the express by Ethernet.
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My PC (the wired one with the iTunes library on) has never been connected to the AE by ethernet.

The only device that has been connected to the AE via ethernet is my wifi laptop.

I ran a lead direct from laptop to AE to configure.

I really have lost track of what I've tried, what configuration etc etc now. :(

Anyway, I still really want to crack this! :p

I've just done another factory reset and I'm going to set it up again.

Should I?

1. Have an ethernet lead in it and configure it by IP from my desktop PC (using the Airport Utility).
2. Confgure it using my wireless laptop, finding it by doing a scan from the Airport Utility?
3. Connect an ethernet lead between my wifi laptop and the AE configure it?

I'm started with number 2 and the 1st thing that happened is that the Utility asked me if I want to "switch networks".

So I said yes and I'm on page 1 of the setup.

Airport Express Name= Azzin's AirPortExpress.
AirPort Express Password=********

Step 2:

Do I want :

1. To create a wireless network?
2. Replace an existing base station or wireless router with Airport Express?
3. Airport Express to join my current network.

I'm going with "Join my current network".

Step 3:

Do I want:

1. Airport Express to wirelessly join my network?
2. Connect AE to my network using ethernet to extend my current netowrk or create a second network?
3. Disable the wireless network on the AE and connect it to my network using ethernet?

I'm going with the 3.

Saved and updated....

Logged in to AE from wired desktop PC using manual I.P (192.168.1.87) and password in Airport Utility.

If I go to "Music" tab, Enable Airtunes is ticked (no over ethernet option present).

Now what?

That's right, off to iTunes on my wired desktop PC-That's right-no Airplay icon.

Wifi laptop-no Airplay icon.

iPhone-no Airplay icon. :(

I'm beginning to think this is a router related issue, as I can't currently get the "Remote" app to connect to my library.
 
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gazpilot said:
Could you just try enabling your wireless network on your router, connect the express by Ethernet and in the airport utility select join an existing wireless network.
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My wireless network has always been enabled, it's what our iPhones and my iPad use.

gazpilot said:
Make sure you have enable AirTunes checked on the express. Unplug from the mains and router and the move it to your living room and plug it into an outlet and your stereo.
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I'll do that in a mo.

gazpilot said:
I believe that the Ethernet port is to:

a: allow a non wireless device to join a wireless network
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Ah-such as an early model XBOX 360 you mean?

gazpilot said:
You will not be able to extend a wireless network as this is only supported by airport extremes.
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Right, thanks-that at least clears that up!

gazpilot said:
You could use an express to create a wireless network but then you would need another to receive the AirTunes stream.
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A bit OTT really.

gazpilot said:
As I posted earlier from the apple support pages.

AirPort Express can function as a full-fledged wireless access point, or it can join an existing network just to offer its wireless print server and audio features. When AirPort Express does that, it is in "client mode."
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Ok...

gazpilot said:
In client mode AirPort Express does not offer itself as a wireless access point or use its Ethernet port. As a wireless client, AirPort Express is simply a destination for AirTunes and print jobs. It can join both 802.11b and 802.11g networks, including those using security features such as WEP and WPA-PSK.
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Sounds good to me, but how do I get it into Client Mode?

I'm sure I've tried (and failed!)
 
Step 3:

Do I want:

1. Airport Express to wirelessly join my network?
2. Connect AE to my network using ethernet to extend my current netowrk or create a second network?
3. Disable the wireless network on the AE and connect it to my network using ethernet?

I'm going with the 3.

Saved and updated....


you want to to go with option 1 and remove the ethernet.
 
gazpilot said:
Step 3:

Do I want:

1. Airport Express to wirelessly join my network?
2. Connect AE to my network using ethernet to extend my current netowrk or create a second network?
3. Disable the wireless network on the AE and connect it to my network using ethernet?

I'm going with the 3.

Saved and updated....


you want to to go with option 1 and remove the ethernet.
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I'll do it from scratch now, what device/interface shall I use for the config?

I was planning to use my wifi laptop to do this, scanning using Airport Utility.

The issue with that, is that my laptop always asks me if I want to "switch networks" when I fist connect to the AE...

Thanks. :)
 
I would connect using my wired pc with the express plugged into my router by ehthernet.

Run the airport util, then unplug the express, move it to the living room and plug it back in without the ethernet.
 
Azzin said:
The issue with that, is that my laptop always asks me if I want to "switch networks" when I fist connect to the AE...
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This is because by default the AE wants to setup a new network and you have to configure to be a part of the existing network.
 
gazpilot said:
I would connect using my wired pc with the express plugged into my router by ehthernet.
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Ok, but it won't be plugged directly into the router, it will be an ethernet lead that comes from the switch in the garage.

gazpilot said:
Run the airport util, then unplug the express, move it to the living room and plug it back in without the ethernet.
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So use my wired desktop PC to run the Airport Utility, then move it to the living room and connect to my amp (no ethernet)?

Presumably I can start with it in the living room (connected by ethernet) as there's ethernet in there and then just unplug the ethernet?

Same process of config by ethernet and then ending up in living room with no ethernet (just wireless)?
 
I have always set mine up initially with an ehternet cable connected to my router, once setup is complete and saved unplug it and you should be able to access it wirelessly.
 
Azzin said:
Ok, but it won't be plugged directly into the router, it will be an ethernet lead that comes from the switch in the garage.



So use my wired desktop PC to run the Airport Utility, then move it to the living room and connect to my amp (no ethernet)?

Presumably I can start with it in the living room (connected by ethernet) as there's ethernet in there and then just unplug the ethernet?

Same process of config by ethernet and then ending up in living room with no ethernet (just wireless)?
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this sounds fine.
 
Ok...

The AE is plugged into the mains in the living room (no ethernet lead in it).

I am connected to it wirelessly on my laptop using the Airport Utility and I have just clicked "OK" when asked if I wanted to switch networks.

It opens up the status page initially and tells me 2 x problems have been found.

If I click on the orange light, it tells me that the ethernet is unplugged and that the AE still has "Default Settings".
 
plug it in the lounge and connect ethernet.

go to wired pc and run airport util

set up to join an existing network

enable airtunes

save config

go to lounge and unplug ethernet

should work
 
gazpilot said:
plug it in the lounge and connect ethernet.

go to wired pc and run airport util

set up to join an existing network

enable airtunes

save config

go to lounge and unplug ethernet

should work
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Ok, I'll do that right now....

I'm in via ethernet, from my wired desktop PC right now.
 
gazpilot said:
plug it in the lounge and connect ethernet.
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Done.

gazpilot said:
go to wired pc and run airport util
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Done.

gazpilot said:
set up to join an existing network
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Done (my existing O2 wifi).

gazpilot said:
enable airtunes
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Done (I didn't tick "Enable Air Tunes over Ethernet" and "Enable Air Tunes" was already ticked).

gazpilot said:
save config
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Done-saving right now (had to change default password).

gazpilot said:
go to lounge and unplug ethernet
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Immediately, or let it power back up?

gazpilot said:
should work
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Yes, it "should"! :D
 
the only other step was to name the airtunes speakers and set a password if required.

fingers crossed for you
 
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