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The-Real-Deal82

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Jan 17, 2013
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I read another comparison on AC and it baffles me how people still feel iPhone's LCD even competes with Note 7 OLED.Opinion of the AC team (and they are fair in their review giving the points to the iphone where needed)
I don't know many people that buy a phone purely for the screen quality though. Once you have a phone how often do you hold it side by side and worry your screen isn't quite the best? Probably rarely if ever, I know it doesn't cross my mind unless I see it discussed here.


Both cameras are good but the low light pics clearly give Note 7 the edge
iPhone 7

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Note 7

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When the top smartphones all take excellent pictures, it's again not something that is compared unless you see it discussed. My iPhone takes a brilliant picture and if it's too dull, I lighten it when editing.
 
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rjohnstone

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The display models are generally in adaptive mode, which to me gets over saturated, but if you switch to photo or basic mode it looks MUCH better.
I leave my Note 7 display in Photo mode. Default Adaptive is a bit harsh and not good to use at night. It's almost too bright even in auto mode.
 

jamesrick80

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Note 7 is a true workhorse and productivity device...cant say the same for the iPhone 7 plus....there are some things that the note can do that are just outstanding.......i can even probably do more on my note 7 than even my iPad pros
 

Hanzu Lao

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Note 7 is a true workhorse and productivity device...cant say the same for the iPhone 7 plus....there are some things that the note can do that are just outstanding.......i can even probably do more on my note 7 than even my iPad pros
Yes, yes ....
 

Radon87000

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Nov 29, 2013
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Just left my local Apple store and had my first hands-on with the iPhone 7/7+. Let me preface that I'm offering my quick impressions solely in comparison to my current iPhone 6s+.

That be said, color me wholly unimpressed. In the hand, feels exactly the same. While I think the new Black is a marked improvement over the old 'Space Grey', the Jet Black looks like plastic (reminds me of the 3G/3GS) and the display models had tons of micro-scratches along the back.

I actually did like the new Taptic home button but it's really not solving any existing performance problem. Yes, a moving home button is more likely to fail but Apple has introduced new hardware (Taptic engine) that could also fail. But while I've seen tons of complaints about the feel of the 'click', I found it to be just fine. Otherwise, I see no added benefit other than Apple testing out new tech for next years rumored buttonless phone. And according to Apple, it's a primary reason there use no longer a headphone jack.

The camera is likely the biggest area of change, especially in the Plus model---this is the only area where I'd see someone getting any value in upgrading from a 6S+.

Unless you are quite dedicated to the minutia of smartphone photography, I'd don't see the value in upgrading personally. And in the past, in regards to Apple products, my upgrade threshold is pretty low.

Would you say its a worthy upgrade over the iphone 6(non plus)?
 

Radon87000

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I sent back my IP7 plus for a Note 7 that I now own, and love the Note. I wish the battery life was better, but other than that, everything is better on the Note. :) I still have my 6s plus before the 7.
Whats the difference in battery life between Note and the 7 Plus?
 

macrem

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btw it seems some companies are requiring MDM (Mobile Device Management) software in order for you as an employee to have access to company email, calendar, etc. via mobile apps of your choice. Many Android users here are often touting how great it is to have such an open system, ignoring the fact that Apple's solution offers much better protection of your data and privacy. When comparing MDM capabilities by OS, Android makes it much easier for a third party to spy on your location and even take screenshots of what you are doing on your (BYOD) Android device. iOS offers far better protection. While I personally still don't trust MDMs, on iOS you have to give the MDM explicit permission to access various resources on your device and there are fewer things that are allowed, like AFAIK on iOS it's not possible for an MDM to take screenshots of what you're doing. I did not see this reason mentioned before, it's another reason to add to the 'why I'd buy an iPhone 7 Plus' list.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Oct 27, 2009
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btw it seems some companies are requiring MDM (Mobile Device Management) software in order for you as an employee to have access to company email, calendar, etc. via mobile apps of your choice. Many Android users here are often touting how great it is to have such an open system, ignoring the fact that Apple's solution offers much better protection of your data and privacy. When comparing MDM capabilities by OS, Android makes it much easier for a third party to spy on your location and even take screenshots of what you are doing on your (BYOD) Android device. iOS offers far better protection. While I personally still don't trust MDMs, on iOS you have to give the MDM explicit permission to access various resources on your device and there are fewer things that are allowed, like AFAIK on iOS it's not possible for an MDM to take screenshots of what you're doing. I did not see this reason mentioned before, it's another reason to add to the 'why I'd buy an iPhone 7 Plus' list.

I haven't tried. But I bet you can just use Secure Folder for company email then disable the camera and other services.
 

Fernandez21

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I haven't tried. But I bet you can just use Secure Folder for company email then disable the camera and other services.
I thought Knox was suppose to be a pretty robust security system. I'm not sure as I've never done anything with it, but I heard it was up there with blackberry and it's why the president is allowed to use the GS4 as his main device.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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My wife used MDM on her Note 7 as she works for a bank and had no issues with it at all. She stuck with the iPhone 7 as she likes that better, nothing to do with work though. It did prompt her to read all the fine print and she decided to uninstall if off her phones and just rely on her company provided ipad. It's very scary the amount of control her employer gets to her phone, I'd never agree to it personally unless they were paying for it, and then I wouldn't use it for personal stuff.
 
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macfacts

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btw it seems some companies are requiring MDM (Mobile Device Management) software in order for you as an employee to have access to company email, calendar, etc. via mobile apps of your choice. Many Android users here are often touting how great it is to have such an open system, ignoring the fact that Apple's solution offers much better protection of your data and privacy. When comparing MDM capabilities by OS, Android makes it much easier for a third party to spy on your location and even take screenshots of what you are doing on your (BYOD) Android device. iOS offers far better protection. While I personally still don't trust MDMs, on iOS you have to give the MDM explicit permission to access various resources on your device and there are fewer things that are allowed, like AFAIK on iOS it's not possible for an MDM to take screenshots of what you're doing. I did not see this reason mentioned before, it's another reason to add to the 'why I'd buy an iPhone 7 Plus' list.

By definition, using MDM means giving full access of your device to your work's administrator. Also current Android works the same way with app permissions, a pop up dialog box asks you the first time the app wasnts to use the permission.
 

rjohnstone

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btw it seems some companies are requiring MDM (Mobile Device Management) software in order for you as an employee to have access to company email, calendar, etc. via mobile apps of your choice. Many Android users here are often touting how great it is to have such an open system, ignoring the fact that Apple's solution offers much better protection of your data and privacy. When comparing MDM capabilities by OS, Android makes it much easier for a third party to spy on your location and even take screenshots of what you are doing on your (BYOD) Android device. iOS offers far better protection. While I personally still don't trust MDMs, on iOS you have to give the MDM explicit permission to access various resources on your device and there are fewer things that are allowed, like AFAIK on iOS it's not possible for an MDM to take screenshots of what you're doing. I did not see this reason mentioned before, it's another reason to add to the 'why I'd buy an iPhone 7 Plus' list.
Good Work, Good Access, and their other enterprise apps are perfect for Android devices.(and iOS as well) It's the only way for BYOD devices to access our company email and internal web sites from BYOD devices.
It won't run on rooted devices, has all the same policy restrictions as MDM controlled iPhones including screenshot blocking, no external web access, etc. Only approved internally published apps are permitted to run in the secure Good environment. I can still use my phone and all the other apps I want right along side the secure side. The two never talk to each other. The instant you root your phone or even turn on Unknown Sources, the app will no longer run.
On Samsung devices, BYOD apps can make use of the Knox secure container to run the apps in. Adding another layer of protection.
My company uses it for both iOS and Android devices.
Do some research on the products offered for BYOD programs. You will be amazed at how similar they are across platforms. ;)
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I haven't tried. But I bet you can just use Secure Folder for company email then disable the camera and other services.
The Secure folder is not intended for BYOD type scenarios... it has no centralized policy management.
It's a consumer container. That's where you keep your "files" you don't want anyone else to discover.
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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My wife used MDM on her Note 7 as she works for a bank and had no issues with it at all. She stuck with the iPhone 7 as she likes that better, nothing to do with work though. It did prompt her to read all the fine print and she decided to uninstall if off her phones and just rely on her company provided ipad. It's very scary the amount of control her employer gets to her phone, I'd never agree to it personally unless they were paying for it, and then I wouldn't use it for personal stuff.
My company provides a full reimbursement on a BYOD device. So it's managed and I know what the policies are since you just have to ask. I don't have a problem using the device as a personal device as well as a business device.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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The Secure folder is not intended for BYOD type scenarios... it has no centralized policy management.
It's a consumer container. That's where you keep your "files" you don't want anyone else to discover.

Thanks, I wasn't sure exactly how roboust Secure Folder was, or whether it was a part of an actually Knox container or virtual.

I just know I'm able to use a company's web outlook mail for the default email app in Secure Folder, which does state permissions and controls of my device. Pretty sure that's contained within the Secure Folder only.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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My company provides a full reimbursement on a BYOD device. So it's managed and I know what the policies are since you just have to ask. I don't have a problem using the device as a personal device as well as a business device.

Oh I know I'm being paranoid, but going through what the employer can do was very scary. Complete remote control of the device, camera, microphone, etc. Complete authority to view anything on the phone or take control of the phone remotely at any time. No notification or explanation needed, they don't even have to alert you they are doing it. They even dictate what apps you can install, she installed a "non approved" app (something stupid, I forget what) and her boss's boss got an emergency email about a security breach, lol.

Just a bit too much for my personal device, but I'm self employed so don't have to worry about that.
 

rjohnstone

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Thanks, I wasn't sure exactly how roboust Secure Folder was, or whether it was a part of an actually Knox container or virtual.

I just know I'm able to use a company's web outlook mail for the default email app in Secure Folder, which does state permissions and controls of my device. Pretty sure that's contained within the Secure Folder only.
It is a Knox container and does provide excellent on device security.
Sufficient for typical BYOD scenarios.
The big difference is it lacks centralized policy management and no method of recovery. Forget the password/pin and the data is gone.
This is why most larger corporations utilize third party solutions.
 

Oridus

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assuming it 'just works' :)

Hate to beat around the bush, but Apple services are not exactly 100% workable either. Google has a better idea. and works with everything.

iCloud has the best continuity amongst my devices and is still the only true complete backup of my device.
 

Nancy bout

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Mar 24, 2013
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I-Message and love the new features- as well as the whole revamp on iOS 10.
I love force touch-
FaceTime is another one granted I use FB video w people who are an android
 
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