Not third party. We are finding out that third party USB c bricks are incapable of achieving 15w charging rate with MagSafe.
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It all depends if the vast majority of iPhone users care about whether there charger takes half an hour longer or not. If Apple aren’t including the plug in the box, are people going to pay £19 for the Apple one or £11.99 for the Anker one? I can see why the third party ones are selling well.
FWIW, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics Consumer Price Index Inflation Calculator is indicating a 1.37% increase from Sept 2019 to Sept 2020. No October data yet so this is the most recent.
See https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
I don't need any more chargers thank you.
I have way too many: 29W Apple Macbook Retina, 61W Apple Macbook Pro, 81W Apple Macbook Pro, 100W Apple Macbook Pro 16".
Will the 100W charge 5 times faster than the 20 W ?
Care to provide receipts for this claim? My third party power brick is delivering 15W perfectly.
I do upgrade every year, and you don't have to turn in the accessories when you trade in, just the phone, so I have a buncha lightning cables lying around.
Regarding usb-c, I recently bought an iPad Pro, which is usb-c on BOTH ends, so I already have a brick, and I have also upgraded my charging stations to ones that have both usb and usb-c inputs. Just getting ready for the next "way of the world", I guess. Things change.
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Based on the replies so far I’m probably not the usual Apple demographic in terms of iPhone upgrades. I buy an iPhone and keep it for 3 to 4 years. In that period the stock cable either breaks after year 2 or gets passed onto family member with phone when I upgrade.
iPhone 4 to iPhone 5s then iPhone X.
Unleaded gas wasn't a superior technology, it was an environmental move for the greater good. In fact, filler necks and car engines had to be redesigned to accommodate this and gas prices increased as a result of this. Charger is a combination of environment and margin. Depending on your level of how much you believe it's margin vs environment is I guess, where one stands on that.
I don't think third party companies are going to make the killing you believe they might make.
How is this thread 17 pages long? If the missing power brick is a deal breaker for anyone, there are plenty of other very good phones on the market that include one.
This is a possibility, also a step towards cable less iPhones. However, the current wireless charging solutions are not very efficient - lower power output, yet more heat, so faster ageing batteries.
I'm typically an every-other-generation upgrader, but have a bunch of Lightning cables as I can't remember having one break. Though with Qi pads at the spots where I usually set my phone down, I'm not using my lightning cables all that much anyway except to charge my ipad mini or airpods. Even then the cables stay attached to the multiport charger and just get plugged into the lighting port.
I said ‘some’ of your examples. Bluetooth headphones were not a superior technology either.
Third parties will benefit to some degree. I don’t think Apple will benefit as much as they hope either.
The issue isn't cost. Almost anything can be solved by paying money. The issue is that it's not as easy as suggested. Not everyone has an USB adapter and/or cable ready for iPhone 12.
1. Buyers of used iPhones expect me include everything that was in the original iPhone 11 box.
2. The existing cable belongs with the iPhone 11.
Once again, your solution seems to rely on shortchanging buyers of pre-owned iPhones.
Of course I can buy a new charger. That's the whole point. I need to buy a new charger. The charger was included in previous iPhone boxes.
Having lived through that transition (*)... FYI the reduction in filler neck size at the time was to prevent putting leaded gas into a car designed for unleaded. i.e. you couldn't fit the nozzle of the "regular" pump into the filler of the new car requiring unleaded -- this was done because the tetraethyllead would damage the catalytic converters in those newer cars.
Engine changes (as I remember) were primarily the use of hardened valve seats -- the lead additive had previously provided protection there. I may be misremembering other details though.
(*) dang kids, get off my lawn!
I'm unclear on how it's not as easy as suggested?
Even here in a rural county with population of 23,000 there are Lightning cables and USBA power adapters available relatively inexpensively at practically every gas station/convenience/grocery/hardware/drug store.
... and that's only a concern for those (presumably few people) who hadn't previously placed extra lightning cables in places of convenience such as bedside, in the car, work bag, etc. and have no USBA sources including not a single powerbank.
One doesn't need a usb-c to lightning cable or 20w usb-c charging brick. The old combo will work just fine.
The thing is this issue is not binary. I get "not everyone" is affected by this and "not everyone" has spare cables and adapters.
The question is what is the scope of "not everyone". Could be 1,2,10,100,1000000, or 10 million.
... and this is the nature of a paradigm shift such what we're seeing now - that cell phones don't automatically come with power adapters. Tons of things need charging or power yet don't come with power adapters or sometimes even cords. No real reason phones must come with them either except that's what's been done previously.
Some quantity of consumers will be impacted. How extensive is that impact? None of us will likely know any real data - just anecdotal / empirical observation of our contacts and others here.
Some folks will get surprised or caught out at the change. Some more folks will have to buy a separate power adapter whether a 20W USBC or a legacy USBA of some sort, and some of them may need to buy a Lightning to USBA cable. Lots of folks will choose to buy a 20W USBC adapter even if they have other options. Lots of folks will just use the myriad solutions they already possess.
... and next year when Apple's next iphone comes out without a charger, fewer will be surprised. Except maybe for some Android buyers discovering their brand decides to follow Apple's lead.
My guess is Apple focus-grouped this enough to estimate the above set of folks will create minimal impact to their bottom line. (they are a profit-driven megacorp - mentioning this in case there was anyone left who still thought Apple was their friend or something warm and fuzzy like that)
That iPhone 11 charger will work with the iPhone 12, just as fast as on an iPhone 11.
Not if I sell or give my iPhone 11 to a family member. The charger belongs to the iPhone 11.