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edhchoe said:
I don't like Apple USB c brick anyway. It looks wide and it would take up three spots on the power strip.
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Depends on how the power strip is oriented.

Anker and Aukey and other reputable vendors have inexpensive small options. https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Anker-Adapter-PowerPort-iPhone/dp/B07WRKXQ8W/

And that's only relevant if you absolutely have no other existing Lighting to USBA cables and USBA power sources.

Or buy one of the myriad inexpensive USBC female to USBA male adapters - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=USBC+female+to+USBA+Male&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

Lots of ways to solve the problem if one simply has no existing Lighting or Qi charging capacity.
 
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blairh said:
Read countless posts on here and Reddit from people defending Apple's potential move of not including the power adapter with the 2020 iPhones because they had plenty of them lying around at home already. And yet not a word from anyone now that we know the new iPhones will ship with a USB-C Lightning cable that is incompatible with all previously included iPhone power adapters (except iPhone 11 Pro and Max).
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Forget that.

What about the fact that Apple is saving boatloads of cash on shipping logistics for iPhone and in product (chargers, EarPods) itself, and passed zero dollars of that onto the consumer? That's $60 worth of accessories ($40 now after they just reduced the prices) remove from the box. Oh, and let's not forget that iPhone 12 is actually $130 more than iPhone 11.

So they're saving money, and instead of lowering the price in turn, raised prices instead.

The whole thing is utterly indefensible.
 
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I recently moved house and during the packing, I gathered all the USB chargers that I was not using and put them in a bag. Most of them came out of old iPhone boxes and still had the plastic cover on it. The 2 black ones are from Amazon Echo Dots that I no longer use....so yeah, for me at least, this is a welcome move from Apple.
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ClarkKent35 said:
Apple removed that charging brick so they could:

A: Get people to buy the USB-C faster charging brick

B: Forget about using a cord and buy Mag-Safe

It's no coincidence that Apple came out with a new way to charge their phone at the same time as releasing a new wireless charger. Its purely a business move and has little to do with anything environmental in my opinion.
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...MagSafe still needs a USB-C brick.
 
I think the volume of people who have pre-ordered, just in the two most active threads on here also suggest that people are fine without a charger being in the box.

Maybe if it bothers people, start a poll to see who has ordered a charger with their new phones.... bet it's a very small number (apart from those upgrading to the MagSafe charger but that is different).
 
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I am still using an iPhone 6s +. I am screwed and can never change my phone if I get a new one lol
 
oVerboost said:
I think the volume of people who have pre-ordered, just in the two most active threads on here also suggest that people are fine without a charger being in the box.

Maybe if it bothers people, start a poll to see who has ordered a charger with their new phones.... bet it's a very small number (apart from those upgrading to the MagSafe charger but that is different).
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IMHO it's highly improbable that Apple didn't heavily study / focus-group the potential customer reaction.

Some folks will be indignant - and of those some will actually switch to Android - others will quietly still order a new phone and others will skip this model and quietly order the next model.

Most of the rest of the world will just move on and use their existing Lightning and/or Qi charging setups. We're already seeing a number of products come out without charging bricks; GoPros, Garmin Fenix6 watches, AfterShockz Aeropex headphones, etc.

Tempest in a teacup.
 
oVerboost said:
I think the volume of people who have pre-ordered, just in the two most active threads on here also suggest that people are fine without a charger being in the box.

Maybe if it bothers people, start a poll to see who has ordered a charger with their new phones.... bet it's a very small number (apart from those upgrading to the MagSafe charger but that is different).
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Don't be ridiculous. It can still bother people without it resulting in a temper tantrum boycott. It can still be discussed and called out for the charade that it is.
 
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blairh said:
Read countless posts on here and Reddit from people defending Apple's potential move of not including the power adapter with the 2020 iPhones because they had plenty of them lying around at home already. And yet not a word from anyone now that we know the new iPhones will ship with a USB-C Lightning cable that is incompatible with all previously included iPhone power adapters (except iPhone 11 Pro and Max).
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Anker sells a very fine charger, 30 Watt USB C and 4 "IQ Ports" for a total of 30 Watt ("IQ Port" means it recognises iPhones and Samsung phones with USB A and supplies as much power as they can handle, instead of 2.5 Watt). That's what a normal household uses.
 
blairh said:
Read countless posts on here and Reddit from people defending Apple's potential move of not including the power adapter with the 2020 iPhones because they had plenty of them lying around at home already. And yet not a word from anyone now that we know the new iPhones will ship with a USB-C Lightning cable that is incompatible with all previously included iPhone power adapters (except iPhone 11 Pro and Max).
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Why mention the usb-c cable? That’s just Apple being nice so that you can charge from your new MacBook.

All people have a charging brick with usb-a at home. Almost all Apple people have a usb-a to lighting cable at home. And these two things are all you need to charge your iPhone 12.
 
DoofenshmirtzEI said:
I rarely ever plug mine in anymore since getting wireless charging. The cable and adapter are non-issues in my book.
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Just because you don't use them doesn't make it a non-issue. I don't use them either. Haven't for a long time. I have a bag full of a dozen or more unused chargers.

That's completely beside the point. The point is that Apple is using the E word to create a bunch of rabid fanatics ready to defend them, when in reality it is a business move to save a ton of money and pass ZERO savings onto the customer. 5G is expensive, Apple knows they're already charging egregious prices that could not possibly go higher without killing sales, and they know they need the 5G buzzword to be competitive. So they found a way to offset the costs by taking something AWAY from the customer, and sacrificing nothing on their end.

It's a pathetic, scummy business move by a greedy company that is at PEAK greed under this leadership.
 
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johannnn said:
Why mention the usb-c cable? That’s just Apple being nice so that you can charge from your new MacBook.
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... remember when folks were complaining about Apple including USBA Lighting cables that don't plug into their Macbook Pros?

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Fortunately I have a bunch of USB-C PD chargers from the Pixel's I've had over the years - jumped ship to the Pixel 2XL, but after several years of questionable design decisions and inflated prices, I've jumped back.

My understanding was that the lack of chargers was also to offset the added costs of 5G this year, so I'm ok without getting one rather than having the price of the device go up (like every other phone right now).
 
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Deinocheirus said:
Just because you don't use them doesn't make it a non-issue. I don't use them either. Haven't for a long time. I have a bag full of a dozen or more unused chargers.

That's completely beside the point. The point is that Apple is using the E word to create a bunch of rabid fanatics ready to defend them, when in reality it is a business move to save a ton of money and pass ZERO savings onto the customer. 5G is expensive, Apple knows they're already charging egregious prices that could not possibly go higher without killing sales, and they know they need the 5G buzzword to be competitive. So they found a way to offset the costs by taking something AWAY from the customer, and sacrificing nothing on their end.

It's a pathetic, scummy business move by a greedy company that is at PEAK greed under this leadership.
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So you're upset that Apple took away something you don't use, don't need, and would just sit in your bag of unused bricks?

I'm not really following where the indignation comes from here? That their marketing department chose to spin something in a positive manner?

I'm not intending to defend Apple - I just see them behaving like any other big for-profit corporation and am puzzled at people's surprise that a big for-profit corporation behaves like what they are.
 
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deeddawg said:
So you're upset that Apple took away something you don't use, don't need, and would just sit in your bag of unused bricks?

I'm not really following where the indignation comes from here? That their marketing department chose to spin something in a positive manner?

I'm not intending to defend Apple - I just see them behaving like any other big for-profit corporation and am puzzled at people's surprise that a big for-profit corporation behaves like what they are.
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I don't understand why this has to be explained to people like you over and over again. The points have been laid out. Ad nauseam. You don't respond to them, or acknowledge them, you just pick what you want to respond to. There's no point.
 
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