Alleged M4 MacBook Pro Unboxing Video Reveals These Four Upgrades

[Corefile]

Gen AI?

 

[nikaru]

As a shareholder, I care about earnings per share, not margins. There's an optimal margin somewhere, which would generate the highest EPS. And hardware sales are not isolated, higher volume will lead to higher services revenues, which are important, even according to Tim.

Well, you care wrong. Margins are indicative of profitability of the business, earnings aren't.

 

[satchmo]

As someone who was eyeing a MacBook Pro with M3 Pro and 18gb RAM, here's hoping for more drastic discounts.

That said, will the base non-pro M4 be faster than the M3 Pro chip?

 

[tomchr9]

Performance and all, I still do not like that SSDs are soldered on the motherboard on MacBooks.

 

[rforno]

No Wi-Fi 7.

That'll be an exclusive option for the super-expensive Ultra MBPro(tm) model, Tim Cook Special Edition.

 

[fabric17]

sincerely "UP to +25% faster CHIP" (realistically +20% more or less) is not a "fantastic update"... it is a normal annual refresh... I would have hoped in a tandem oled display also... (now I have a m3 max MBP and I am really sattisfied)

 

[applepotato666]

As heavily as the 8GB M3 has been discounted, I'm not expecting a price increase. I don't think anyone was buying it at retail price. It's been 1299 lately, the 16GB version of it was 1499 at some retailers not long after it launched, and the 18GB M3 Pro has been available for 1699 (even dipping to 1499 itself recently a few times).

To me, these heavier-than-normal discounts indicate that Apple could easily stick with the 1599 retail entry price for a 16GB M4 model. I'm not sure what that means for the M4 Pro base model, but we'll see soon enough.

I don’t think they’ll increase the price either. More RAM costs them close to nothing and 8GB is just far too little for the price. Even the base iPhone has 8GB at $799. They’ve just finally deemed the ridicule by reviewers and users significant enough to increase it. Many were disappointed to see a $1600 computer with 8GB of RAM and that created many discussions on the internet, and with that amount of mass bullying I don’t think they can try shipping subpar specs anymore.

 

[law guy]

It's an extra 3 Thunderbolt 4 ports, because the M3 MacBook Pro has exactly zero Thunderbolt 4 ports. They are TB3.

Why is this important? Because Thunderbolt 4 means that it would support two external monitors instead of just one.

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The M3 14" MBP has two TB4 ports and supports multiple monitors.

 

[boak]

Price will increase by at least $100 if the base model is increased to 16 GB. Apple is not going to give up $200 revenue (almost pure profit) per MBP. Be serious.

 

[MrGimper]

Unless something goes horribly wrong, I’m in for one. It’s time to abandon my i9. I hope the 1TB upgrade isn’t too crazy.

I abandoned my i9 in May for an M3 Max from the Apple Refurb store. Saved £800.

 

[MrGimper]

sincerely "UP to +25% faster CHIP" (realistically +20% more or less) is not a "fantastic update"... it is a normal annual refresh... I would have hoped in a tandem oled display also... (now I have a m3 max MBP and I am really sattisfied)

Is that multi-core or single core tho? If multi then not earth-shattering as it has 2 extra cores.

 

[law guy]

But is it any thinner ... lighter ... I love my 16" M2 Max, but my late 2018 intel MBP in the cabinet (with that fab Touch Bar) looks like it's been cutting carbs compared to the M MBP iterations. It looks the same dimension-wise in the video.

 

[Apple Employee #1]

Putin is playing Mine Sweeper on a sweet setup!

I thought it was a Macintosh? Chess, no?

 

[applepotato666]

Performance and all, I still do not like that SSDs are soldered on the motherboard on MacBooks.

Is that due to durability concerns? My 256GB SSD has had near 3 petabytes written to it and it’s at 100% health and acts brand new. Drive longevity is no longer an issue to worry about unless you plan to be daily driving the same computer for more than 30 years with a high-write workload like video editing, and even then the SSD is unlikely to be the reason it fails.

 

[cjsuk]

Is that due to durability concerns? My 256GB SSD has had near 3 petabytes written to it and it’s at 100% health and acts brand new. Drive longevity is no longer an issue to worry about unless you plan to be daily driving the same computer for more than 30 years with a high-write workload like video editing, and even then the SSD is unlikely to be the reason it fails.

Yeah this.

Not joking but the capacitors on the PCB will die of old age before the SSD does unless you're rewriting the entire disk in a loop.

 

[iSandrotto]

The M3 14" MBP has two TB4 ports and supports multiple monitors.

It literally says it has two Thunderbolt 3 ports on the screenshot you shared.

 

[boak]

Is that multi-core or single core tho? If multi then not earth-shattering as it has 2 extra cores.

M3 MBP (4P + 4E) - SC: 3082, MC: 11583
M4 MBP (4P + 6E) - SC: 3864 (+25.4%), MC: 15288 (+32.0%)

M4 iPP (3P + 6E) - SC: 3647: MC: 13135

M4 is clocked at 10% higher frequency than M3.

 

[mdatwood]

The trouble is it’s impossible for them to do so because they don’t have access to macOS.

I was ignoring the OS. MBPs are just nicer pieces of hardware. Almost no one makes a comparable trackpad and the screens are often much nicer. Then there's battery life, which since the change over to ARM, is hard to beat.

What we have seen is that when a PC makes does attempt to replicate a MBP, they end up around the same price point.

 

[EugW]

Where is the tandem OLED? It's funny that iPad Pro (which will be used 99% as content consumption device) has a much better display than a MBP which mainly used as a creative device.

2026 probably.

The M3 14" MBP has two TB4 ports and supports multiple monitors.

As already mentioned, and as shown in your own screen grab, it’s TB3 not TB4 for the M3 MBP. Also as mentioned, with the main screen open, the M3 MBP only supports one external monitor.

 

[mudflap]

sincerely "UP to +25% faster CHIP" (realistically +20% more or less) is not a "fantastic update"... it is a normal annual refresh... I would have hoped in a tandem oled display also... (now I have a m3 max MBP and I am really sattisfied)

Personally I'd still call 20-25% faster fantastic. That would cut PhotoShop batch processing times down quite a bit for me.

 

[MrGimper]

Why does he not show anything that would confirm this machine has the M4 chip.

No about screen, no specs of cores etc in the GB results.

Unless I missed it.

 

[Muscovite]

I thought it was a Macintosh? Chess, no?

Wine / Crossover / Parallels

 

[ctjack]

That’s what I’m waiting for, although this should be a solid upgrade from an M1. My M1 MBP is blazing along quickly still and should for years. I might get another 3 or so years out of the computer before upgrading. I could get that many, but I like to upgrade every 3-4 years.

M1 are 4 year old laptop at this point. M4 offers 2x single core and 2.25-2.5x multicore. Seems like a legit update for me next year M1 Air to M4 Air.

 

[ignatius345]

16Gb base is a big deal. Now the model in non Apple stores and discounted online will have a recommended configuration for most people, unless Apple crippled the base SSD

Yeah, if 16/512 is the base, that fits my own needs brilliantly for a laptop and my use case which is light to moderate.

 

[waquzy]

Why does he not show anything that would confirm this machine has the M4 chip.

No about screen, no specs of cores etc in the GB results.

Unless I missed it.

Yeah, I thought the same. He could have easily blurred out the serial number, but shown that it has the M4 chip