AMD Radeon RX 580 works in macOS

[Erlang]

So, I've probably worn out my patience waiting for Amazon to come through on the Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB pre-order (since August).
I understand about the lack of correct info if I get an RX580 that is not a Pulse,but any recommendations for a RX580, or any to steer clear of?

I do have a power cable on order hopefully this time the right one (hard to find in Europe).

 

[h9826790]

So, I've probably worn out my patience waiting for Amazon to come through on the Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB pre-order (since August).
I understand about the lack of correct info if I get an RX580 that is not a Pulse,but any recommendations for a RX580, or any to steer clear of?

I do have a power cable on order hopefully this time the right one (hard to find in Europe).

In general, apart from XFX, or some very special card, any RX 580 should work. But at this moment, seems even the XFX RX580 works fine in cMP.

I personally prefer the Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB. I am quite sure it's possible to flash this card with the PULSE ROM, or so some simple mod to make it ident itself like the PUSLE does. It has dual ROM design, so flash proof.

The biggest downside is that the Nitro+ is a 6+8pin card. However, it's real power consumption is still just about 250W under high stress. With about 60W from the slot. The 6+8 only draw ~190W actually. This will exceed the cMP's official limit, but experience shows won't hurt anything.

 

[macha-one]

Thanks. Will do that then.
Got the drivers installed for Win 10…as to actually trying anything, it took so long (installs, multiple restarts....) I gave up for the time being. I don't know what MS did to make it run so badly off a hard drive, 8.1 and earlier were fine, but I wish they hadn't...watching paint dry would be faster. Sheesh.....
Couldn't get monitor-RX 580 via HDMI to work so settled for cable-swapping, which works OK. Better in High Sierra, unsurprisingly....

Hi Staff, It seems like you are experienced in the path I am about to go. Want to get a RX580 sapphire with 8gv for my 12 core mac pro 3.46 with os 10.12.6 and windows 8.1 running in bootcamp. I have four monitors connected to my current and R9 280 which works great . an apple 30 inch two apple 23 inch and a 4k tv.
Is the RX 580 behaving well in both windows and mac now? About to order one but thought it good to check with someone with experience in this matter.
hope you can give me some advise. thanks a lot in advance Jane

 

[StuAff]

Hi Staff, It seems like you are experienced in the path I am about to go. Want to get a RX580 sapphire with 8gv for my 12 core mac pro 3.46 with os 10.12.6 and windows 8.1 running in bootcamp. I have four monitors connected to my current and R9 280 which works great . an apple 30 inch two apple 23 inch and a 4k tv.
Is the RX 580 behaving well in both windows and mac now? About to order one but thought it good to check with someone with experience in this matter.
hope you can give me some advise. thanks a lot in advance Jane

There are no Windows 8.1 drivers for the RX 580, you need either 7 or 10 to get it working as it should. No issues otherwise.

 

[AidenShaw]

.. . remove the cMP side over - might reduce the ambient heat.

Usually not a good idea. With the side cover on, air is pulled across all the parts in the chassis and blown out the back.

With the cover off, there is no organized air flow.

 

[macha-one]

There are no Windows 8.1 drivers for the RX 580, you need either 7 or 10 to get it working as it should. No issues otherwise.

very valuable feedback. I somehow can not install windows 10 on my mac pro...tried everything. Normally I manage to solve any computer issue. But windows 10 seems impossible. Guess I am stuck on 8.1 so i ll stick with my 280 for now.

 

[namethisfile]

Are RX 580 owners also experiencing "High Sierra 10.3.2 Broke Sleep?"

10.3.2 broke sleep on my RX 460.

 

[jimithing1]

Have the Sapphire Pulse RX 580 and no issues here.

 

[h9826790]

Usually not a good idea. With the side cover on, air is pulled across all the parts in the chassis and blown out the back.

With the cover off, there is no organized air flow.

It may be true on your high end PC. But I actually ran some tests on my Mac Pro 5,1.

CPU temperature is not affect.

GPU is actually 3-5C cooler (depends on GPU and cooler type ) with side panel off.

Other components (PSU, HDD, NB, etc) also not affected. So, for cMP, side panel is more like for purely “good looking”. Very Apple style indeed
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Are RX 580 owners also experiencing "High Sierra 10.3.2 Broke Sleep?"

10.3.2 broke sleep on my RX 460.

The 460 is quite “hit or miss”. It was supported, then suddenly not supported, and the support come back again, and now it breaks sleep…

IMO, if go for AMD because prefer OOTB solution. It’s better to go for Sapphire PULSE RX580 (or at least reference RX580) regardless if you need / want the power.

Unlike Nvidia card, if Apple pull the support for a particular AMD GPU. It is dead. And on driver supporting, Nvidia’s actions and history is way way better than Apple. Apple can ban web driver, but why? And how? Apple did license to release some Mac Edition Nvidia graphic card. And the work station cards need web driver to use ECC or CUDA. TBH, the chance of Apple ban Nvidia web driver is virtually zero to me.

But if you prefer AMD route. It’s better ether to stay at 7950 (if you want something has similar processing power as RX460, or relatively low real world power consumption). Or go for the 280X or RX580. And other AMD card may suddenly not working after any OS update. And it did happens more than once already.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

So, the RX 580's Windows drivers are AWFUL. The OSX drivers are great, but my Windows games appear to overheat the card or something and, subsequently, cause the card to go unresponsive and forfeit the game.

Some users have tweaked Wattman settings and claim to have fixed the issues, but I'm scared to tweak them because I have little knowledge in the GPU-tweak sector. Also, I am not sure how said tweaks will affect my Mac Pro. Has anyone had issues within Windows, thus far? I almost want to just make a cheap gaming box, on the side, and throw my GTX 1060 6GB into it.

 

[Squuiid]

My two cents, my Sapphire RX 580 Pulse 8GB cards wake fine from Sleep in 10.13.2.

 

[MarkJames68]

I almost want to just make a cheap gaming box, on the side, and throw my GTX 1060 6GB into it.

I went this route (although not cheap). Less hassle as I keep the configurations and optimizations separate. Downside is the expense.

 

[h9826790]

So, the RX 580's Windows drivers are AWFUL. The OSX drivers are great, but my Windows games appear to overheat the card or something and, subsequently, cause the card to go unresponsive and forfeit the game.

Some users have tweaked Wattman settings and claim to have fixed the issues, but I'm scared to tweak them because I have little knowledge in the GPU-tweak sector. Also, I am not sure how said tweaks will affect my Mac Pro. Has anyone had issues within Windows, thus far? I almost want to just make a cheap gaming box, on the side, and throw my GTX 1060 6GB into it.

Wattman is very safe to use. It’s native from AMD, it anything goes wrong, the driver / card will automatically go back to the default setting. Make sure you won’t stuck at infinite crash loop. And since you are going to undervolt the card, but not overvolt it. There is virtually no risk to break anything.

You don’t need to touch any other parameters. Just run Unigine Heaven in Extreme HD preset (default Window mode). And open Wattman, slowly reduce the core voltage (not the VRAM voltage) 5mV at a time (remember to click “Apply” after you set the voltage.

Until you see artifacts on Unigine Heaven (for 5mV steps, you should able to see artifacts at some stage, but not crash straight away), then increase the voltage by 15mV.

This is your “minimum voltage”, will let the card run cooler and faster.

And now, reboot, check Wattman if the voltage still there. If not, set your minimum voltage, and do more stress tests to make sure the card perform normally (or simply do your gaming). If artifacts occur, increase another 10mV, and test again.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

Wattman is very safe to use. It’s native from AMD, it anything goes wrong, the driver / card will automatically go back to the default setting. Make sure you won’t stuck at infinite crash loop. And since you are going to undervolt the card, but not overvolt it. There is virtually no risk to break anything.

You don’t need to touch any other parameters. Just run Unigine Heaven in Extreme HD preset (default Window mode). And open Wattman, slowly reduce the core voltage (not the VRAM voltage) 5mV at a time (remember to click “Apply” after you set the voltage.

Until you see artifacts on Unigine Heaven (for 5mV steps, you should able to see artifacts at some stage, but not crash straight away), then increase the voltage by 15mV.

This is your “minimum voltage”, will let the card run cooler and faster.

And now, reboot, check Wattman if the voltage still there. If not, set your minimum voltage, and do more stress tests to make sure the card perform normally (or simply do your gaming). If artifacts occur, increase another 10mV, and test again.

Thanks for this info! I'll try these pointers if something goes wrong again.

For now, I think things are actually looking good. Today, I ended up installing CLEANLY the latest drivers (rather than just updating, as I had done previously). I tried gaming (albeit not on the most intensive map in the game), and I was able to do so for 40 minutes, with no issues whatsoever. In fact, the game never did crash on me, in that period of time.

I'll have to try again tomorrow and see if this holds true.

 

[Synchro3]

very valuable feedback. I somehow can not install windows 10 on my mac pro...tried everything. Normally I manage to solve any computer issue. But windows 10 seems impossible. Guess I am stuck on 8.1 so i ll stick with my 280 for now.

Install first Windows 7 or 8.1, then Boot Camp 5.1 drivers, and update to Windows 10 for free: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/acc...459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-0FBZfNm6YPFXNhiu3o52rA)() Finally install Apple HFS drivers from Boot Camp 6: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-hfs-windows-driver-download.1368010/

Are RX 580 owners also experiencing "High Sierra 10.3.2 Broke Sleep?"

10.3.2 broke sleep on my RX 460.

No broke sleep here with a new Sapphire RX 580 from NewEgg (as eGPU). The card is not fully recognized in “About this Mac”, but that's really cosmetic. The card works like a charm.

I did a Geekbench 4 OpenCL test before and after sleep, no significant difference.





Before Sleep:


After sleep:

 

[corbuso]

I have the radeon RX580 Pulse since about 2 weeks, but it is not trouble free :-(
I have boot camp with Windows X and after the software upgrade, the graphic card is working smoothly and the gain in performance compared to the old original Radeon 5770 is impressive. However, I cannot go back to Mac OS :-( I tried to boot using the option key as I did before to select my MacOS drive, but since I have the new card, the screen is plain black :-(
Any advice on how to return to OS would be useful...

 

[StuAff]

I have the radeon RX580 Pulse since about 2 weeks, but it is not trouble free :-(
I have boot camp with Windows X and after the software upgrade, the graphic card is working smoothly and the gain in performance compared to the old original Radeon 5770 is impressive. However, I cannot go back to Mac OS :-( I tried to boot using the option key as I did before to select my MacOS drive, but since I have the new card, the screen is plain black :-(
Any advice on how to return to OS would be useful...

If you have an MacOS startup disk in HFS+ format, you'll be able to select it the default in the Windows Boot Camp Startup Disk control panel. APFS volumes are not visible in that panel, so won't be an option. If MacOS was set as your default startup disk before booting into Windows, it'll still boot back into it OK. If all else fails, swap the cards and use the 5770 to get the boot screen back. I got a GT120 just for boot screens, worth doing that (or with a similar card- the 5770 will be perfectly OK if you have room and power connections to spare).

 

[h9826790]

I have the radeon RX580 Pulse since about 2 weeks, but it is not trouble free :-(
I have boot camp with Windows X and after the software upgrade, the graphic card is working smoothly and the gain in performance compared to the old original Radeon 5770 is impressive. However, I cannot go back to Mac OS :-( I tried to boot using the option key as I did before to select my MacOS drive, but since I have the new card, the screen is plain black :-(
Any advice on how to return to OS would be useful...

That’s normal.

You can either use the bootcamp manager (in Windows) to select the MacOS as you next boot partiton (only work with HFS+ partiton)

Or simply perform a PRAM reset, applicable for both HFS+ and APFS partiton.

And you may consider to use BootChamp (with SIP disabled) in future to avoid the same problem.

 

[corbuso]

If you have an MacOS startup disk in HFS+ format, you'll be able to select it the default in the Windows Boot Camp Startup Disk control panel. APFS volumes are not visible in that panel, so won't be an option. If MacOS was set as your default startup disk before booting into Windows, it'll still boot back into it OK. If all else fails, swap the cards and use the 5770 to get the boot screen back. I got a GT120 just for boot screens, worth doing that (or with a similar card- the 5770 will be perfectly OK if you have room and power connections to spare).

Thanks. I will try the PRAM reset first, as Windows Boot Camp did not worked before or now either. When I select the OS drive, it restarts anyway on the Windowd X partition, thus I had to go via the option key to select the drive first.

 

[zemaker]

Thanks. I will try the PRAM reset first, as Windows Boot Camp did not worked before or now either. When I select the OS drive, it restarts anyway on the Windowd X partition, thus I had to go via the option key to select the drive first.

It didn't work for me either if I used Bootcamp in Windows from the task bar, I had to open the application in full through the control panel and then select Mac OS

 

[digidow]

Having serious problems. I would be extremely grateful for any help or suggestions.

A few months ago I purchased the MSI Rx 580 Armor 8G OC 8Gb from Newegg. Along with one of those beefy dual mini 6pin to 8pin power cables. Pulled my Radeon 5870. Installed the RX580. Everything was golden!

Then about a couple weeks later every time I rebooted my cMP 5,1 (Mid 2012) my second display would always be wonky until I dragged another window over to it and reset it self.

But now things have gotten much worse. When I do anything GFX related ( i.e. Adobe apps) on my cMP the displays will go out. No matter what I do I can’t bring the displays back. The machine seems fine when the displays black out. I can still hear iTunes playing. I am forced to do the short-cut (Control–Option–Command–Media Eject) to reboot. The machine reboots fine. Desktop reappears like nothing happened. I’ve done multiple clean OS installs (reformat). Thinking something has gotten corrupted. Nope. Same thing happens.

I am thinking maybe the power cable is bad? But it could be a bad card? Has anyone else had problems like this?

The set-up
cMP 5,1 (Mid 2012) 2x2.66 6c 10.13.2
MSI Rx 580 Armor 8G Oc 8Gb - Slot 1
Displays connected to card
•Dell 2405FPW (1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz) connected to DVI
•Dell SP2309W (2048 x 1152 @ 60 Hz) connected to DisplayPort (This is the display thats always messed up on reboot)

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

[BananaManAcaciaRoad]

I've just installed an AMD Sapphire rx580 8gb, seems to work right out of the box with my mac pro (mid 2012) under OSX 10.12.6. Seems to run beautifully. But I do have an issue which has made me panic a bit, in the system profiles the PCI slot info is just not there, just a message that error occurred reading the info. Is this something I need to be concerned about? The card is not flashed and is straight out of the box.

The last thing I want is to fry the logic board, if I hadn't seen this I wouldn't have any concern. I ran the Rx580 for 2hrs without a hitch, but as a precaution I've put in the old Radeon 7970 card until I've more info. The Graphics/Display info is there in the profile, but just a few xxx over the card version, which is expected, its just why the PCI info can't be read.

Any help or reassurance would be very helpful.

 

[h9826790]

I've just installed a rx580 8gb, seems to work right out of the box with my mac pro (mid 2012) under OSX 10.12.6. Seems to run beautifully. But I do have an issue which has made me panic a bit, in the system profiles the PCI info is just not there, just a message that error occurred reading the info. Is this something I need to be concerned about? The card is not flashed and is straight out of the box.

The last thing I want is to fry the logic board, if I hadn't seen this I wouldn't have any concern. I ran the Rx580 for 2hrs without a hitch, but as a precaution I've put in the old Radeon 7970 card until I've more info.

Any help or reassurance would be very helpful.

That's normal for 10.12.6 and earlier. Apple fixed that in 10.13, but it was like this for many years already, so far all evidence points to purely cosmetic.

In fact, your 7970 has higher chance to fry the logic board than the RX580. Unless you bought a seriously overclocked 580, it's power draw should always within the cMP's official limit, but the 7970's 6+8 config by default is outside the cMP's limit.

 

[BananaManAcaciaRoad]

That is very helpful to know. Thanks!
One of the main reasons to upgrade was to put less strain on power. I think I'll reinstall the RX580 in that case.

Thanks again

 

[tomscott1988]

Do we know if any cards but the Saphire version would work?

The Powercolour RX 580 8GB is £280 atm vs £570 for the Saphire.

Anybody know if this would work in a 5,1 without issue?

Cheers

Tom