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Android in Decline?
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nearest singapore and thailand . me malaysia no geniuses also . i think philiphines also dont have.
Don’t worry mate, it’s only a matter of time before the apple juggernaut has apple stores in every country around the world 😎🏠🔨
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Same here. Really bad support for Apple and prices are a lot more expensive.
For iPhone 12 mini, which I recently bought I could've paid 2 months of my rent.
It's more complicated here since the government put out a law to whitelist IMEIs, meaning only phones bought locally can be used with the local telcos. Foreign-bought phones have to be registered and you have to pay extra tax to be put into the whitelist (although to be honest, sometimes even with these extra taxes, the price are still better than the locally marked up ones...).
Singapore is the go-to Apple purchase source for Indonesians.
Hopefully, but Apple so far is still too China-focused.
I wish Apple Pay attention more to SE Asia as a whole (not just Singapore and Thailand. Singapore, a tiny nation, already has 3 Apple stores...
).Meanwhile, Google already made deals with my government and just opened their data centre in the country last year.
Here in Finland Google has just completed its 6th data centre at a complex which used to be a paper mill. They purchased it in 2009 and have to date invested 2 billion Euros in the operation.
Apple stores in Finland? Zero, none.
Apple stores in Finland? Zero, none.
I feel like Android has plateaued. It doesn't have anything to differentiate itself from iOS now that Apple is opening it's iOS a bit more and introducing 120Hz screens now. I can use both without issue although I still prefer Android for it's file manager and more customization. I have both the Note 20 Ultra and the iPhone 12 mini and enjoy using both. The Note is still my main phone due to the screen size and the features that Samsung included such as split screen or pop up views if I want to have an app on the side. I use the edge screen all the time. Apple makes a great phone in the 12 Pro Max but they need to give it more features for it's huge screen. The thing I love most about the 12 mini is it's size. It fits in one hand and it's so comfortable to use haha.
An iPhone 12 Mini is about £30 more than one of my mortgage repayments. I couldn’t see that money going to someone else these days.
You’re right, it depends. I needed to mention my experience was with Samsung’s inexistent CS in the US.
I can pretty easily get 2 days battery on my S21 ultra. I didn't charge it last night, and I am still at 43% after 34 hours off the charger.
Camera wise I also have no issues. Constatly amazed at the pictures it takes, and the fact remains beyond refute that the 10x optical zoom takes pictures that no other (mass market) phone is capable of, especially any iOS device.
iPhones are a bit better at video, but Samsung has closed the gap considerably this generation.
In terms of stock Android, I agree that it has plateaud for a while. It's to the point that Google is simply looking at the various OEMs and copying their features into stock Android. Some Google's own UI start to mimmick Samsung OneUI.
This is why stock Android doesn't do it for me anymore. It lacks even basic features I'd expect for an Android phones like twin apps, call recording, etc. I don't want to sound like a fan boy, but Samsung's OneUI to me has become the most rich featured Android.
Then again, Google has compartmentalized Android so well that many app features can be pushed as an update to the app itself. This is unlike Apple that still paired things like Safari updates into iOS update itself.
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There are surely a number of people in that segment. Also, Apple has been building their brand as a desired brand for many upcoming working class, so they might start on Android, but once they are well enough, they might switch to iPhone.
If only Apple can equalise their own pricing and pay attention to the local market and customer service better. Let's say if iPhone prices in my country were roughly equivalent to US MSRP + local GST, there would be a lot more adopters I'm sure. Apple simply is outpricing themselves. It's made worse that many of the features are US only. On the bright side, Apple's lengthy OS support is surely helping. I'm waiting for a cheap XR or 11 (when Apple drop them from the US lineup), just like how I got the 7 Plus in early 2020.
It may be your opinion that stock Android is the best OS but even no Android device will reach the longevity of iPhone 6s, Mini 4, A9X iPads ( more so 12.9 inch one considering that was released months before the 9.7 inch one) and the king itself the Air 2 for a long long time
I think one reason why Android could be in decline is because people are waking up to the fact that Apple gives better longevity than Android. Android Users know even Air 2 and 6s is still getting the latest iOS/iPadOS 15 update and longevity is one of many factors that attract Android users to Apples ecosystem, that and all iDevices get updated at the same time rather than waiting months because of carriers for Android😊
(though I would easy prefer stock Android to bloatware Android)
Although there are people who cares about updates (like me), I want to say that majority of people probably don't care or even aware about updates. There’s a reason why the Chinese have no problem selling cheap phones that are getting practically no updates at all.
The regular people treat phones in a different way than techies/enthusiasts. Most people see phones just like an appliance. Some use it as a status symbol, ie. they don't care what OS in it as long as it's the most expensive model of that brand.
Apple’s prowess imo is not the fact they have long software support, but it’s due to their brand. The Apple brand has become a desirable brand. Many want iPhones because it’s an iPhone, not because of iOS support length. Apple did such a great job here that there are plenty of business case studies looking at Apple’s marketing. The fact that the 6s is still supported in iOS 15 is a coincidentally beneficial byproduct.
Also Apple makes money from other things like accessories and services, so it’s in their interest for people to use their iPhones as long as possible. This is in contrast with most Android OEMs whose revenue only come from selling new phones, thus they have no interest in updating their older phones. All they want is for people to keep buying their newer phones.
I spent a few years on a Galaxy S7 before recently switching back to iPhone. Hardware wise it was an excellent phone with a gorgeous display. Zero complaints about the hardware other than the shutter speed seemed slow on the camera and with a very mobile toddler in the house it made it nearly impossible to get good pictures anymore. Going back to an iPhone camera was a big factor in me switching back.
Software wise it got occasional security updates and only one, maybe two full OS update that I can recall in the time I had it. Software updates were basically unnoticeable anyway since I had my launcher skinning over any and every stock part of the OS. Very underwhelming software experience as I don’t recall a single update adding a “must have” sort of feature to the phone and there was never any real hype or lead up to a new update to get me looking forward to one. When the phone would prompt me for an update I’d just do it and forget about it. Pretty hard to get hyped for an update anyway when it could be released and I’d have no way of knowing when or if the update would eventually flow down through the manufacturer to the carrier to my phone.
I’m happy to be back on a new iPhone with lots of years of reliable OS support in its future. And with the recent purchase of an Apple Watch I’ve really dug in for the near future.
But if I ever feel the desire to go back to an Android there’s probably a 100% chance it would be either a Samsung or a Pixel. Those are the only two platforms that give me enough confidence to get an above average software experience over the life of the phone.
Software wise it got occasional security updates and only one, maybe two full OS update that I can recall in the time I had it. Software updates were basically unnoticeable anyway since I had my launcher skinning over any and every stock part of the OS. Very underwhelming software experience as I don’t recall a single update adding a “must have” sort of feature to the phone and there was never any real hype or lead up to a new update to get me looking forward to one. When the phone would prompt me for an update I’d just do it and forget about it. Pretty hard to get hyped for an update anyway when it could be released and I’d have no way of knowing when or if the update would eventually flow down through the manufacturer to the carrier to my phone.
I’m happy to be back on a new iPhone with lots of years of reliable OS support in its future. And with the recent purchase of an Apple Watch I’ve really dug in for the near future.
But if I ever feel the desire to go back to an Android there’s probably a 100% chance it would be either a Samsung or a Pixel. Those are the only two platforms that give me enough confidence to get an above average software experience over the life of the phone.
Android is pure spyware.
arstechnica.com
I don't know why the governments still allow Android to exists in its current form. It should be banned immediately, if privacy is still even remotely important. Most users don't know what they are doing and just buy an Android phone and use it without changing privacy settings. Then Google starts collecting all the details of their life. Pure evil.
Android sends 20x more data to Google than iOS sends to Apple, study says
Google contests the estimate, saying it’s based on flawed methodology.
arstechnica.com
I don't know why the governments still allow Android to exists in its current form. It should be banned immediately, if privacy is still even remotely important. Most users don't know what they are doing and just buy an Android phone and use it without changing privacy settings. Then Google starts collecting all the details of their life. Pure evil.
I, too, care about updates, but I'm also not one to keep a phone more than a few years. I replaced my Pixel 2 XL in November, primarily because it was losing update support, but I was also about ready for something new (though that phone is still a great device!). I replaced that with a budget-friendly 4a 5G, but that will also get 3 years of updates/patching.
My dad, on the other hand, isn't one to do the same, and he's still using a 3 or 4 year old iPhone. Oddly enough, my mom is on Android and is still using her Pixel 3, but there has been discussion about moving her to an iPhone. She's following the same upgrade plan I have - replace when it loses patch support (so she'll probably be upgrading in November).
The issue really comes in to play for the people that are more budget-conscious. They either are behind on updates/patches from the get-go because they bought the cheapest device they could find, or they buy a slightly better one but keep it so long they lose their patch/update support long before they're ready to let it go.
Going back to the OP. iOS is the system in decline. So many bugs, no customization, looks like it's from 10 years ago now. Nothing new and exciting. Both my wife and I are gone from iOS. She was an apple fan, but even she's sick of the constant bugs, and boring look of the iOS.
I always find this odd. Boring? What exactly is exciting about android homes screens? Especially now that iOS has widgets.
Im in apps not staring at the homesreen. Same with my computers.
Same boring Icons. Spring board so you cannot position the icons where you want, apple widgets are half assed, the apple app "dock" is half assed where you cannot choose what goes where....same boring dock and the bottom. shall I continue? Changing an Icon in iOS is a procedure in pulling teeth, then you have that huge stutter when you open the app because it has to go through the dumb shortcuts app in order to do anything. Again, shall I go on? Nothing "ODD" other than people who have apple phones are starting to get bored with the same thing year after year after year after year.
It's like it's always been, each has their strengths and weaknesses. I was a big iOS guy, my last Android was the Note 7 before they all blew up and had to be returned. I never ever thought I'd ever go back to Android and really enjoyed how far along iOS had come. But then the Fold 2 came out and it was all over. I actually tried to go back to iOS this weekend as a huge concern is Android's lack of iMessage, but I realized I just didn't enjoy it anymore, it was way too restrictive. Not only the software but also the hardware was too restrictive. But once again one isn't necessarily better than the other, I just find Android and the software/hardware options it brings are more conducive to my work and play needs.