That's the case for a lot of people. What they have works for them and that's all there is to it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with just being content with whatever device they have.
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That's the case for a lot of people. What they have works for them and that's all there is to it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with just being content with whatever device they have.
To be honest, knowing macOS and iOS has gotten me into a better team at work + a raise. It's good to know Windows and Mac and generally how to use a computer.
I get you, but here in Europe people keep switching from iPhone to Android and vice versa. I know plenty of people that buy phones like: Android phone, then iPhone, then Android, then iPhone then Android again. I really don't know anyone that has really stuck to one system only and here in Europe nobody uses iMessage. I had to kind of beg my friends to use iMessage and only one agreed to. I've switched from Android to iPhone too and then back to Android and it makes me just realise that phones are just phones as well as computers are just computers. It doesn't matter as long as I get my work done.
I would say it’s also a very expensive to leave an ecosystem if you want to create a new one. If you want phone, watch, tablet to sync it can become very costly
It does seem to be a hard thing for people on tech sites to accept though. The fact many will stick with something they know and enjoy and don’t dare to try a different product seems to frustrate some. Never understood that myself but it’s probably the main reason these discussions turn into a versus argument rather than a constructive understanding.
It's because it's a personal attack and as far as I've been to different forums it has always been that way. I still don't understand how's that trolling. What exactly for you is trolling? Disagreeing? Someone saying that Spotify is better than Apple Music? If I said that Netflix is better than Apple TV+ I'd be a troll as well?
Dealing with apple fans, Yes, disagreeing with them constitutes trolling. If you say ANYTHING bad about apple you are automatically a "troll". I love that word actually. It's the online equivalent of a 4 year old in the sand box with their fingers in their ears going NANANANA, because you said something they don't like.
It’s not an Apple thing at all and can be applied to any products where people defend and promote their personal preferences. Years ago when I used to play computer games, the discussions had much the same tone as you see with fans of iPhones and Android phones. This forum is primarily an Apple promoted platform so you will get individuals more sided towards that brand, so it won’t come as any surprise.
Just by your generalization that only apple fans are like that shows your a troll your self.
Yes, but having an open mind and talking about what works and don't work on both in the ALTERNATIVES TO IOS section would be awesome instead of the fanboying in here. Keep that for the other areas of the forum. Its like it everywhere. I am on a photography site, There is a computer section on it where there is a section for windows, mac and other. Its funny that Apple fans have to go to the windows section and bash it constantly where as the windows users just stay in the windows section and don't venture to the mac or other section at all. So it sort of is an apple things. They don't call it the "cult of apple" for nothing. I am mostly on the alternative sections here because they are active with users using things other than apple.
I am moving from apple now as I have had enough of the issues I am having. Others are not and that's great. But to claim I am NOT having these issues just because APPLE. that's just ridiculous.
I had no idea this thread was in the Alternatives section as I don’t view this forum through the website and it may be the same for others? This was just a new thread in the feed when I commented. Open mind is good I agree and it works both ways. I can see now why the silly thread title has got suck negative feedback and maybe it should be moved to a more appropriate part of the forum? Any hoo.
You have to move to whatever works. I’ve had less issues with the iPhone than I ever had on Android and that was my trigger. I’ve never looked back and that’s what you need to do I would say. Enjoy the transition and I hope it works for you.
Imo that is mainly due to Apple's own pricing in some markets, betraying their own positioning. If Apple's pricing is roughly similar to US MSRPs (plus whatever local GST), I have a feeling there will be more interest as Apple brand is very highly regarded.
My theory is Android dominance in many countries is purely due to affordability. You can get a decent Android phone for $100 - $200, or even less than $100, while the base iPhone SE 2020 in my country is almost $500.
I wasn't referring to you. I was making a general comment about these forums. But if you look in the "alternatives to iOS" section it's easy to see that handfuls of threads are about Android vs iOS (created by obvious iOS fans) and Android phone specific threads are constantly being turned to iOS vs android by people visiting from the iPhone forums. I would call those people trolls, considering this is the one section of this site that's not supposed to focus on iOS or iphones. But because those people feel their personal identity is tied to their cell phone they use, they feel the need to come here and talk **** on Android. It's pathetic really.
And the mods refuse to ever deal with it so it eventually devolves into name calling. Thats when they finally decide to do something. Sometimes.
Yes pricing is definitely a factor in Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Latin America. In Western Europe though I'm not sure its only down to pricing. In China I don't think the iPhone could ever do that well even if rhe price was reduced. I think they are just more interested in the Chinese brands.
I think there's a cult following of Apple in China. Being such a huge country, obviously the mass majority will look at the cheaper phones first, which is Android. But Apple has been focusing so much on China, that they also are enjoying some features only available in first tier markets like US. And Apple is not too worried considering they are making so much money compared to all Android OEMs combined. I'm just annoyed that Apple seems to be ignoring SE Asia, where the growth is happening (China, although they have a lot of money, they're not growing as much).
Here, we not only pay more money for Apple products, we don't get to use many of the features since they are region locked.
Yep and then we get the warnings.
I do think LFC maybe got one because he's stopped posting for a day. But he'll be back and we'll go through the same routine.
I blocked him ages ago so I don't really care what he does.
Imagine having your personal identity tied so closely to a cellular device that you feel the need to go to forums of phones you don't even like just to justify it. Pretty sad.
I'm sure there are some in China that covet foregin things like Apple. However I think there was even a big push to support home grown companies like Huawei following Trump's bans.
Pricing will certainly be a large component in this, yes, but I also think how iOS features and services roll out has an impact. It's almost always this group of countries where the features and services (Maps updates, Apple Pay, that sort of thing) roll out first, often the US & Canada in the first wave, with the others coming next and only then slowly expanding out across other jurisdictions. That these countries are culturally and geopolitically closest to the US is probably no accident, given it just makes it easier for Apple to engage, and Apple has a large footprint in most of these countries anyway. I'm not sure how similar Android/ OEM rollouts work, but I think that also explains why iOS is also weaker in some wealthy jurisdictions like Western Europe. More recently Apple has been prioritising the Chinese market more, but that doesn't seem to have impacted their overall market share hugely.
You didn't say "some" either. Why make silly generalizations regardless? Everything you can possibly say about "some" Apple fans you can say about "some" Android fans. Why even bother?
Because someone made the comment. And I totally agree that crazed fans of any platform are annoying af
For me it was not having such a rigid system in place that I could not enjoy myself. I like the widgets better, I can have stuff like a live view of my kids cam right there on my desktop. Other widgets have good interactivity like being able to scroll through emails/texts and take action on them. Although with that said there is definitely an appeal for iOS widgets in how neat and ordered they are, personally I liked having a single widget page on iOS before they changed it.
Another big one that I can't live without is Vanced!! Plus the ability to interact with my Windows PC, since Apple shuts out Windows interacting with iOS. Plus I never have to look at the atrocious and outdated iTunes ever again. I'm in to the customization, but Samsung allows for a huge amount of customization over and above Android so I think Samsung users are definitely spoiled. Goodlock is incredibly useful for example. Dex mode in Samsung is amazing, being able to carry around a "desktop" PC that I can hook up to a TV as a monitor and use the phone as a touchpad is really useful. Don't even get me started on the features my Fold 2 has, like being able to split the screen into windows and such. Looking forward to actually being able to use a pen on the Fold 3. All features Apple is lagging on, split screen on the iPhone and pen capability. Something simple but really valuable, being able to pause video instead of having to stop and start on an iphone and have multiple videos.
The videos do send, they are just massively compressed and really not worth sending.
It's interesting you don't see the compression with MMS. In particular the compression with video is atrocious. You literally can't make out people in the video unless maybe they are up close. But sending videos of something like my daughter playing a soccer game comes out as just a bunch of pixelated blobs moving on screen. It's not the end of the world, at least with Samsung I can send a link to the full size video that iPhone users can open and save right from iMessage, but it's still not as seamless as just being able to send the full sized, uncompressed video.
Personally I have no issue with the green bubbles either. I'm an adult, and if someone else looks down on me because of that then they do not deserve my company. But no one has ever cared.